Computer problem--ram/cpu/mobo/what?

[Victor]

hi, I have problem with my system. It will sometimes kinda stuck in windows (the system actually is not freeze but I can't click on the taskbar on the buttom of the screen). Control-Alt-Delete actually works and I was able to use that to restart my computer. I wonder what's wrong? From time to time, I will have problem boot into windows (it will just hang in the progress bar, you see the progress bar moving but it didn't go into windows)

I am having problem with this system for awhile now, it sometimes will reboot without any warning, sometimes it will kinda like freeze when I turn it on. People have suggest replace the PSU but have replace it couple of times and still got problem. My system is not the top of the line which does nto draw that much power. I wonder could it be the cpu? memory? hd? mobo? or what. What's odd is that I can run 3d benchmarks, or dual prime, or memtest, all passed, yet I am still encountering these problems. What do you guys suggest?

What's weird is that the system can be running 100% stable for a long period of time but from time to time, it will gives me problem. Can someone help me?

[Kougar]

If I may ask, when is the last time you have done a reformat and clean reinstall of Windows? I only ask because when I had those exact problems (IE: The systray locking up yet the system was still responsive and ctrl+alt+dlt worked, and also XP infinitely hanging during load) I did a reinstall and it fixed the system, so I was sure something with XP had become damaged.

The next time this happens, I would suggest you open your Task Manager, find "explorer.exe" and terminate it. Once everything (Desktop, systray, start button, close all open IE windows too!) vanishes go to File -> New Task and type in "explorer". It should bring back the systray and reload the desktop space, and your systray should be responsive again. (Although not for more than several hours, the systray should lock up again eventually)

[Victor]

I did fresh install a few month ago (before summer I think). When you said XP is damaged, do you think it's the HD? CPU or memory?

Man, it would sucks big time if I had to rma any parts, don't have spare parts lying around to replace for a week or two.

[markkleb]

It could be a heat problem. When you first start up the comp it works fine but when its been running for a while it gets hot and messes up,
That would be a hardware prob. Easiest fix is take off the side cover and use a fan to cool down the comp.

The other type of prob would be Windows(software) problem. You may have picked up a problem program that freezes windows every once in a while.

Can you remember when the problem first started? What were you doing at that time?

If you remove the bad program it may go back to normal.

[tomato]

Do the usual as well: check the fans and see if they're all working, clean out the dust, re-seat components...

My buddy had a constantly re-booting computer and couldn't figure out what was wrong. It turned out to be a failing cpu fan! :?

[nam-ng]

hi, I have problem with my system. It will sometimes kinda stuck in windows (the system actually is not freeze but I can't click on the taskbar on the buttom of the screen). Control-Alt-Delete actually works and I was able to use that to restart my computer. I wonder what's wrong? From time to time, I will have problem boot into windows (it will just hang in the progress bar, you see the progress bar moving but it didn't go into windows)

I am having problem with this system for awhile now, it sometimes will reboot without any warning, sometimes it will kinda like freeze when I turn it on. People have suggest replace the PSU but have replace it couple of times and still got problem. My system is not the top of the line which does nto draw that much power. I wonder could it be the cpu? memory? hd? mobo? or what. What's odd is that I can run 3d benchmarks, or dual prime, or memtest, all passed, yet I am still encountering these problems. What do you guys suggest?

What's weird is that the system can be running 100% stable for a long period of time but from time to time, it will gives me problem. Can someone help me?

Did you ever check the CAPs as I mentioned once before?

Assuming it is still the same problem you'd asked multiple times in this forum, 99.9999% of the internet trained experts will not be able to help you.

You might find a part swapper expert here or somewhere who will tell you to swap parts out until the problem is gone without comprehension of what the problem actually is.

[Kougar]

I did fresh install a few month ago (before summer I think). When you said XP is damaged, do you think it's the HD? CPU or memory?

Man, it would sucks big time if I had to rma any parts, don't have spare parts lying around to replace for a week or two.

In your case I don't really know and couldn't begin to narrow down on the hardware. :( Everyone's advice seems sound and definitely worth a few minutes to check or try out though. And if you can't find any failing fans or bad caps or any other reasons then I definitely would still suggest trying a clean install. If the problems reoccur then you'd at least know it is a hardware problem once and for all.

In my specific case, XP was likely either damaged due to either my rough treatment of that specific (old) install I'd been carrying around, or one of a dozen invasive programs I'd toyed around with that mucked about with things that shouldn't have been messed with, or one of the constant hardware changes finally broke something in the software install... I just know reinstalling the OS fixed it.

[markkleb]

Did you ever check the CAPs as I mentioned once before?

Assuming it is still the same problem you'd asked multiple times in this forum, 99.9999% of the internet trained experts will not be able to help you.

You might find a part swapper expert here or somewhere who will tell you to swap parts out until the problem is gone without comprehension of what the problem actually is.

Normally I dont complain too much but dude ur such an asshole...All the advise given has merit and for you to say "99.9999 of the internet trained experts will not be able to help you" proves my point.

So just in case im not clear nam-ng Fu*k you...

[werty316]

He seems to act this way not matter what the thread is about.

[nam-ng]

Normally I dont complain too much but dude ur such an asshole...All the advise given has merit and for you to say "99.9999 of the internet trained experts will not be able to help you" proves my point.
"All the advise given"? You didn't find the given advice below had merit?

"Assuming it is still the same problem you'd asked multiple times in this forum, 99.9999% of the internet trained experts will not be able to help you.

You might find a part swapper expert here or somewhere who will tell you to swap parts out until the problem is gone without comprehension of what the problem actually is."
So just in case im not clear nam-ng Fu*k you...
"Take a deep breath", it'll help your emotional instability.
He seems to act this way not matter what the thread is about.
It had nothing to do with e-penus size you had mentioned, 6th grade explanations do nothing for e-penus size, not comprehending 6th grade explanations would definitely shriveling it down.

[Victor]

okay, people, let's be calm please. I do appreciate all of you guys's advices.

Okay. Well, I did reinstall windows like few month ago and updated the drivers and such. The system runs fine and I assume that it is fine (it has a few propblem during the summer and I thought maybe it's the heat). Like I said, since it's not always causing me the trouble, I didn't pay too much attention, but it's just annoying as hell to see this. (since I encounter it a couple of times last couple of days). I am considering reintalling XP but that's a day or two job, big job. I thought maybe there's something else since this was somewhat a problem which comes back once in awhile. Maybe I mess too much with my system:).

[DragonMaster]

Dunno, but here's what I do when strange things happen with me:

CCleaner
Spybot S&D
Trend HouseCall using ActiveX(Java version never worked for me)
chkdsk /r /f
sfc /scannow


-Admin.Tools logs could tell something.
-A bad background service or program? (HiJack log)
-Try shaking the RAM sticks and cards while the computer is running. If it crashes, some contacts aren't working too well.(The easy way is just to shake them for a while - it helps.)
-Dust in the case or cooler? Fans need maintenance? What about CPU temps? Too high?


My generic guide to solving a lot of problems like this you can get with a Windows PC. :mrgreen:

[Victor]

did some of update the drivers and reinstall the chipset driver. The problem is still there. it's odd as I had my system running the whole night dl stuff and this morning when I want to use it. it has become somewhat non-responsive. I can't open any program (however, the system is not completely freeze, it actually works but click any program won't open it). I, however, can use the start button to shut down the system (although it's really slow in closing the background system, took like 10-15min to completely restart the system). I am tempting to reinstall the OS, but it's such a big task. I konw that it could be software, but is there anyway to konw for sure, as I usually encounter this problem from time to time and it comes and go.

[DragonMaster]

Is there something eating all the RAM or CPU?

Tried SFC? (after chkdsk or you could kill your installation if something is corrupted)

Installing Windows XP isn't really much trouble, maybe 2-3 hours? Just make a list of what to install, format & backup, install windows, the updates, download all the apps & drivers, install cds and downloaded apps.

I know that I need IrfanView, IZArc, OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, foobar2000, CCleaner, ATi Drivers, ULi drivers, Adobe Reader, Office2K3, kX drivers, ethernet drivers, Winamp and AVG or AntiVir. I often install Winamp only once I need it, same for Spybot, jv16PowerTools old version, etc.

[The Doctor]

It had nothing to do with e-penus size you had mentioned, 6th grade explanations do nothing for e-penus size, not comprehending 6th grade explanations would definitely shriveling it down.
You haven't changed a bit nam.

[Xero (1)ne]

alright, let me ask wuht no one else has...

wuhts your psu? and do you have it plugged into a power strip or surge protector? and has there been any storms that knocked the power out when it was on?

[werty316]

If all else fails try a fresh install and if you still get these anomolies then there definitely is something wrong. Does ending the task of "explorer.exe" help?

That way I have my computer setup makes a freshing installation easy. I set 2 partitions on one HD, one for the OS and another for downloads so this way I don't lose any important data when formating and doing a fresh install ;) I just need to copy over what I need like favourites.

[nam-ng]

You haven't changed a bit nam.
Ya... Same old same old.

It's rather odd that I always ran into "experts" with no "simple garden-variety common sense", at times into "experts" who couldn't comprehend 10th grade explanations, other times into "experts" which 6th grade explanations are too difficult.

Next time I'll try for 3rd grade explanations if at all possible. But it would have been a lot easier if these "experts" actually had a real highschool education.

Unfortunatly in Americas they gave away highschool diplomas to anyone as if it was nothing more than toilet paper, even then some of them still didn't qualify to get a highschool diploma.

The world are filled with highschool dropout "experts". It's no wonder that hitech manufacturing are shifting oversea to third world countries, they actually have real highschool graduates with sufficient education for the jobs.

[Mirrim]

Is this really necessary?

[The Doctor]

Next time I'll try for 3rd grade explanations if at all possible. But it would have been a lot easier if these "experts" actually had a real highschool education.

Unfortunatly in Americas they gave away highschool diplomas to anyone as if it was nothing more than toilet paper, even then some of them still didn't qualify to get a highschool diploma.

The world are filled with highschool dropout "experts". It's no wonder that hitech manufacturing are shifting oversea to third world countries, they actually have real highschool graduates with sufficient education for the jobs.
I think you're already speaking in 3rd grade explanations, you certainly have 3rd grade pottymouth.

[nam-ng]

I think you're already speaking in 3rd grade explanations, you certainly have 3rd grade pottymouth.
Probably because I'd acquired my meager English skill very cheaply.

I only spent total $25 on a 3000 words English dictionary, hence I was at best almost achieve closest approximation to this superior native born English version --> "So just in case im not clear nam-ng Fu*k you..."

Perhaps if I'd spent another extra $25, I might have achieved your own proudly presented version of native born English perfection. -->"and you take great pride in being a cowboy of the brokeback variety when you're not playing with gerbils and cardboard tubes."

[The Doctor]

I think you wasted your $25 on the wrong book. You should have bought the Webster's Dictionary instead of the 3000 Word Book of Profanity and Insults.

[Victor]

guys, thanks for all the replies, but i think we have gotten a bit out of topic.

I am going to close this thread from further discussion. Please, please don't go off too far from the topic.:mrgreen: :mrgreen: