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Kougar
09-20-2006, 10:16 AM
There will not one, but two Kentsfields. The Core 2 Extreme QX6700, will ship with the same speed as the E6700 and retail for the usual $999.

Of much, much greater interest is the second, the Core 2 Quadro Q6600. Naturally it will ship with the same clock speeds as the E6600 chip, which prices set somewhere between the E6700 and the X6800. The only drawback is it is expected to launch very early next year... :???:

Intel documents reveal two quad-core processors within the next six months

For those of you who hadn't seen this coming -- you (http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2850) should (http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1471) have (http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1167) -- Intel's desktop quad-core "Core 2" processor is on the way. Intel's most recent launch update claims the chip will come in two iterations, the first of which will be here in November 2006. Both chips have Socket 775 packaging and utilize a 1066MHz front-side bus.

The Extreme Edition 2.66GHz chip (http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3829), dubbed Core 2 Extreme QX6700, is poised to launch this year in November. Like other "Extreme" chips from Intel, the estimated price tag is $999 for the new processor. The CPU is compatible with all second-generation Conroe-compatible Intel 975X motherboards, but not all "965" series motherboards. Unfortunately, there are no more details on which motherboards are compatible yet. (http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2983)

A mainstream quad-core Kentsfield will launch early next year, dubbed the Core 2 Quadro Q6600, and will debut with a 2.4GHz core frequency. A price tag for the Q6600 has not been set yet, but the processor will retail for less than the QX6700 but more than the Core 2 Duo E6700. The E6700 has a street price of approximately $530 USD, but price cuts will bring the cost of the CPU down before the Q1'07 launch of mainstream Kentsfield.

Intel's original launch scheduled claimed that only the Q6600 would launch next year. This has been revised several times by Intel representatives who have publically pre-empted AMD's quad-core plans (http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2625). AMD retaliated earlier this year stating that quad-core demonstrations would come before the end of the year (http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3448). Given that AMD has a traditional habit of demonstrating its new processor technology during the Intel Developer Forums (IDF) that occur twice annum, it's quite likely that we will see these first demonstrations at next week's IDF.

A server version of Kentsfield, dubbed Clovertown, is also expected to ship this year (http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3421) with Socket 771 packaging.

The article is from http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4217 (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4217)

Edit: Zachig beat me to it. If someone can plrease remove this thread since I don't have the option.

Chakka
09-20-2006, 10:05 PM
Kougar, this is why I just cant figure out what to do so Im going to wait until after the new year to even consider an upgrade. It seems to me that the game is really changing with quad core cpus, ddr2 or ddr3, new dx10 gpus, etc.

So Ive even stopped looking at forums for a while so I dont "get the bug" to upgrade. The only thing I might consider is a 24 inch dell monitor that Scott got a while back plus seems compliant to the stuff we are going to need to run Vista.

Just my 2 cents from my point of view.

werty316
09-20-2006, 10:35 PM
Quadcore is a bit far fetched since they cost an arm and a leg plus for gamers it quite useless as it stands. Not alot of games take advantage of dualcore CPUs. Its great to see huge advancements with CPUs and GPUs but there is nothing that takes advantage of them once they are out gaming wise; its like the PhysiX card; no killer app yet and how long has it been out yet?

Kougar
09-21-2006, 03:32 AM
Quad-core is not far-fetched.

As I recall it was not uncommon for people to be buying AMD 64 4600+ chips for over $800, and AMD 64 X2 4800+ processors for $1,000 during 2005.

For $500-800 you will now not only get twice as many cores, but you get much more powerful processors. Naturally not everyone is a heavy multitasker or has a need for 4 processing cores, but there is a good market for it nonetheless.

werty316
09-21-2006, 04:22 AM
You think $1000 is not far fetched for users? Not everyone is as rich as you Mr. Intel Man ;)

Kougar
09-21-2006, 06:14 AM
Werty, the Q6600 will be somewhere inside $550-800... that is less than $1,000, and considering what you get with it, two E6600's in one, it's a very good price.

harry18
09-21-2006, 06:08 PM
$550! bargain, i may have to splurge, as thats only like £300, which is very cheap for a QUAD core :)

Chakka
09-21-2006, 09:47 PM
I thought that Vista was multi-core friendly so it seems to me that the more cores you have, the better Vista will run.

However, I see wertys point. If anything, it should lower the price of the current dual core cpus and Im all for that...

Kougar
09-21-2006, 11:13 PM
The Core 2 Duo prices ARE expected to lower, that was already known. :)

Harry, don't expect a $550 chip, I was giving a price range because the price itself hasn't been given.

That said, Dailytech just published the price of the Xeon 2.4ghz Kentsfield, so it is a very safe bet to say the price of the matching 2.4ghz Core 2 Quadro will be $800-851

werty316
09-21-2006, 11:49 PM
Until I see it in stores I don't believe it will cost $550 since the article says this:
A price tag for the Q6600 has not been set yet, but the processor will retail for less than the QX6700 but more than the Core 2 Duo E6700.
So where are you getting $550? it should be much more than that because again what the article says here:
A price tag for the Q6600 has not been set yet, but the processor will retail for less than the QX6700 but more than the Core 2 Duo E6700.
E6700 already costs around $530 so...

Kougar
09-22-2006, 03:15 AM
Again, it is called a "price range", I did not say "It will cost $550". :???:

As you pointed out the current E6700 costs ~$530, if you read further down that article they make note prices are expected to continue to drop further.

You are also ignoring that once I found more specific info, I updated my general estimate with a rather specific $800-860 bracket, which is extremely likely where the MSRP will fall and prices eventually settle once they stop selling like crazy.

werty316
09-22-2006, 04:35 AM
E6700 price drops are not the issue here.

So all the prices you made were guesses? Would you really expect the Q6600 to be in a range starting so low at $500? I am surprised you thought it would be.

Could you afford a Q6600 when its out since you said it will match the price of a Xeon Kentsfield at around $800? No? So then my "far fetched" reply was true then ;)

Who here thinks a $800 CPU is not far fetched and you could buy it once it hits the streets?

A good example is that you bought a E6300 but mostly likely for its value when comparing its OC'ing ability. People who have $ could spend more and those who don't can't hence the Q6600 is far fetched for alot of users since not everyone one is rich.

Anyhow arguing about this is not gonna go anywhere so I'll leave it at that.

Kougar
09-22-2006, 09:03 AM
You made the E6700 price an issue, so I pointed at the expected price drops on it.

I think it is more than safe to say it will be $500 at some point, although not at launch nor for 6 months afterwards. After that... And again, I didn't say $500, I said "$500-800" the first go around. There is a difference, and you are ignoring it. Even though the range I made that educated guess on based off the Kentsfield articles was a bit low, that was why it was a price range and not a sinle price figure. ;)

I believe Miles (Unfortunately) bought a $800 AMD processor, since you want names... and a sure lot of people were buying AMD X2 processors for that price last year. Even the X2 3800 was selling for $354, and it didn't drop to $300 overnight.