View Full Version : Which one do you prefer
romo91
09-22-2006, 06:16 AM
Which one do you prefer air colling or luquid colling?
also what kind of products would it be? :paw:
markkleb
09-22-2006, 06:22 AM
I like air because its simpler. H20 is cooler(if you get a good one) and looks better, WOW factor is higher.
I like Swiftech stuff and CoolRad rads. But I just bought a Coolermaster Aquagate 120 (it was only $55) to try.
werty316
09-22-2006, 06:32 AM
Air cooling is sufficent. Plus I don't like the idea of mixing water with electricity.
Bio-Hazard
09-22-2006, 06:52 AM
Can anybody guess what my answer is..............;)
Swiftech water cooling
markkleb
09-22-2006, 06:55 AM
LOL, thanks for the chuckle.
whatever
09-22-2006, 09:11 AM
i'd like air cooling, like werty316 said, the idea of mixing water and electricity is not good at all.
Kougar
09-22-2006, 09:15 AM
I used to like air cooling... but I've realized it's expensive as well if you want it to be high-performance and relatively quiet enough to sleep 3 feet away from without being annoying.
After quad-cores become the norm, or the DX10 cards start trickling down to reasonable prices I might take up watercooling. After looking at the TDP/heat generated of a Kentsfield air cooling just can't be silent and keep things cool enough. Since the 8800GTX is actually one and a half Kentsfields, it can only be worse... :roll:
GIBSON
09-22-2006, 09:34 PM
liquid cooling owns, it's just a lil expensive...
zachig
09-24-2006, 06:28 PM
I used to like and have my own home-made watercooling system.
It consisted of a Zalman ZM-WB2 Waterblock, Eheim 1048 Water Pump, home-made 2 liters reservoir, and a small 25x25 cm raidator that was taken from an old Daewoo Racer heat-core...:lol:
It kept my Barton 2500@3200 pretty cool at that time (no more than 42C on LOAD). But since I moved to my new system, X2 3800+, I gave up on watercooling and currently cooling my CPU using CoolerMaster Hyper 6+ Air Cooler...:wink:
werty316
09-24-2006, 06:40 PM
liquid cooling owns, it's just a lil expensive...
Actually phase changing pwns more ;)
Das Capitolin
09-24-2006, 07:43 PM
What ever happened to all the Peltier systems or old?
GIBSON
09-24-2006, 08:56 PM
Actually phase changing pwns more ;)
Well, not really when it comes to being user-friendly. Having to insolate everything, and well, empty your pockets if you want to go phase-change.
What ever happened to all the Peltier systems or old?
They cost an arm and a leg in electricity. Sure, there still are people using those, but not that much.
DragonMaster
09-24-2006, 08:57 PM
I heard that CPUs put out too much heat that you get condensation problems, and if the cooler fan fails, the peltier will heat the CPU instead of cooling it.
I used to like air cooling... but I've realized it's expensive as well if you want it to be high-performance and relatively quiet enough to sleep 3 feet away from without being annoying.
It's not that bad, using temp. sensitive fan controllers, a good case and good budget 120mms works well. -- As long as you don't OCLK too much.
Water cooling looks interesting, but I don't have any computers where it's worth putting in there -> Stock cooler is enough for now, or computer too old to put money in it.
GIBSON
09-24-2006, 09:08 PM
I heard that CPUs put out too much heat that you get condensation problems, and if the cooler fan fails, the peltier will heat the CPU instead of cooling it.
If you're working with pelts you should ALWAYS insolate, you WILL get condensation, no matter what, because you are cooling below the room temp. Second, I still have to see an air cooled pelt for the first time, or did you mean the fan on the wcrad when you say "cooler fan".
darkorb
09-24-2006, 09:09 PM
whats a pelt?
werty316
09-24-2006, 09:22 PM
Also known as Pelt, TMB or TEC. This is an electronic device which, when an electric current passes through it, gets very hot on one side, and very cold on the other. The cold side is (typically) 69 C colder than the hot side. Thus the colder you can keep the hot side, the colder the cold side will be. Used with water cooling, these can keep your CPU well below 0 C.
You can read more on it here: http://www.digit-life.com/articles/peltiercoolers/ and here http://www.overclockers.com/tips45/
zachig
09-24-2006, 10:13 PM
When I've built my watercooling system , I thought of using a Peltier, but then, like you said, I gave up since it cost a fortune (I wanted to use that 200W beast...:lol: ) and beside that, I how too lazy to deal with condensation and having to isolate everything around the CPU with foam and such. And beside that, I found it (and still think it is) too risky, especailly, if you have the latest hardware...:roll: :???:
Anyhow, I don't see/hear about too much people that are using a pelt nowadays (not that there were so much in the past few years...)
I guess not everyone is "that" overclocking crazy!!! :lol:
DragonMaster
09-24-2006, 11:43 PM
Well, I read that some P1 systems had peltiers between the CPUs and fanless heatsinks. The problem turns out that if you do the same thing with a normal air cooler, if the fan fails, the peltier will fry everything.
darkorb
09-25-2006, 12:05 AM
is it better than dry ice? :P
Bio-Hazard
09-25-2006, 12:11 AM
Anything that cools below room temp will cause condensation and will require specisl precautions to gard against it............;) Doesn't matter if it a pelt, phase, chilled water, dry ice or liquid nitrogen...........:)
pc_man_iac
09-25-2006, 12:14 AM
I personally use watercooling as of lately, I am not as much of a newb about it so I prefer watercooling, it isnt dangerous if u use non conducitve coolant, or **** whats that water called distilled there we go that isnt conductive, its the **** in the water that wrecks it ,I got the corsair nautilus 500 external great purchase I am probably the biggest newb to watercooling and I find it very reliable and worthwhile. I was worried for the first few days that I connected the hoses wrong and it would blow up and fry my whole computer just as I left my room, so I would turn off my PC every time I left the rrom, but after having run it for about 50horus in the past 2 weeks I know its good stuff, temp wise it is great, and the system at fastest is still quieter than my case fans, so no complaints from me, BTW my case fans arent that loud
DragonMaster
09-25-2006, 05:12 PM
I use air cooling and the noisiest part is my Seagate 7200.10 HDD :mrgreen: For the rest, the front case fan is probably the noisiest, but since the temps stay almost the same when I turn it off, I can just unplug it when I want more silencs.
vBulletin® v3.7.0 Release Candidate 3, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.