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PP Mguire
10-18-2006, 10:25 PM
Ok ive got to ask. Ive seen alot of people here with Maxtor drives surprisingly. Do you guys not hate Maxtor here? Ive been to so many forums that diss all my Maxtor drives but ive never had one fail on me. Of course ive crashed them yea but the only HDs that have died around here are WD. So im guessing yall remember the Maxtor from the days of old?

XJnine
10-18-2006, 10:29 PM
I have Maxtor drives and I have other brands of drives. ALL hard drives crash eventually. I've not noticed a higher incidence of Maxtor HD's failing compared to other brands here in my house and I easily have 20+ hd's running here.

Scott
10-18-2006, 10:35 PM
And besides, all new Maxtors are Seagates since Seagate owns Maxtor.

Victor
10-18-2006, 10:49 PM
I don't have problem with Maxtor's drives. Though I do encounter issue with nf4 (still encountering with my system setup), but that's more of the nf4 chipset's problem I think. other than that, it's working fine with me.

markkleb
10-18-2006, 10:57 PM
I even use Platinum HDDs(I think they are made by Maxtor)
http://www.justdeals.com/Items/GS_WL60GB_7200_2M?

In my personal comps I use Seagate, WD ot Hitachi.

I think as you ask older people you will find more people go for DEALS over names.(except Moneybags Scott)

werty316
10-19-2006, 01:55 AM
I haven't had problems with Maxtor so far...

Kougar
10-19-2006, 03:02 AM
I don't diss them unless they earn it, and Maxtor hasn't earned it. Infact, honestly they have some of the best priced drives around, but still are in the middle-ground in performance terms. I have one older Maxtor drive, but Werstern Digital has since taught me good to never buy a 1 year warrantied drive.

Seagate plans to keep the brand Maxtor alive, just as their "lower-end value segment". It will be interesting once Seagate starts building their own designs into Maxtor branded products.

Enigmachine
10-19-2006, 03:05 AM
I only have 2 maxtor HD and I use them as external/backup drives, haven't had a problem so far...

But I am not betting the farm on them either, that's why they only hold backups and not live data. :)

tomato
10-19-2006, 03:45 AM
I've had 2 Maxtor HD's fail on me within 6 months... (where I am positive that it was HD failure and nothing else) never again for me. Seagate for life ;) :)

BigD
10-19-2006, 04:12 AM
yeah ive had a maxtor fail within a few months... but they are so cheap i bought another!!!

PP Mguire
10-20-2006, 01:01 PM
Ok for the people that are older, yes deals over anything else lol. As for the Seagate for life comment, think about that for a second. Maxtor IS Seagate. So dont be a hypocrite. Not trying to be mean or anything but thats all you really are. As for the hot deals, ive seen a 300gig SATA Maxtor at Frys for 69 bucks. They usualy always have that deal. Thats INSANE low. As for the backup data coment. Usualy you want your better drives to backup your stuff because you think youll loose your live data on the drives your currently running ;) Think about that one for a moment. Really for me i use any drive i can get my hands on thats cheap like Mark said. I prefer Maxtor though. Of course everybody has their own personal opinions and experiences. I on the other hand still have a 20meg Maxtor that still works.

Enigmachine
10-20-2006, 04:35 PM
As for the Seagate for life comment, think about that for a second. Maxtor IS Seagate. So dont be a hypocrite. Not trying to be mean or anything but thats all you really are.

There has probably been no, or very little, integration of Maxtor technology into Seagate drives or vice-versa so far. These things can take a very long time and it's probable that the only step they have taken so far is to close certain factories or end some manufacturing contracts they had with parts maker, so they can save money. I really doubt the quality of Maxtor drive has improved already, except for certain things (like the OneTouch drives).

As for the backup data coment. Usualy you want your better drives to backup your stuff because you think youll loose your live data on the drives your currently running ;) Think about that one for a moment.

Ok, let's think about it for a moment. We expect the Seagate to be more durable than the Maxtor, this is a reasonable expectation as they are being sold as the "low end" line of drives.

Say I do it my way, use my Seagate for everyday use and the Maxtor for daily backup. If the maxtor fails it has no impact because I will know the same day, can get a replacement, and can keep working without a single interruption. If eventually the Seagate fails (the less likely scenario) I can back up from the Maxtor. In the meantime I can enjoy all the other qualities of the Seagate besides its durability.

If I do it like you propose, the Maxtor fails more frequently, so I have more downtime.

I don't really see why I would do it your way. But you're entitled to your opinion.

tomato
10-20-2006, 05:25 PM
My experiences with Maxtor HD's came before Seagate acquired them.

A brand name is still a brand name.... I know that Maxtor's are now essentially Seagate HD's, but who really knows what is actually "under the hood" of the HD? Did Seagate just ditch everything Maxtor did? I highly doubt it, but I'm no HD expert.

Besides, the Maxtor line is now being looked at as "low end" Seagate HD's, so that makes the decision even easier for me. I will stick with a "Seagate" branded HD, thank you very much. ;)

Victor
10-20-2006, 07:00 PM
the problem with maxtor is that they are still 1 year warranty:). Seagate has 5. I am not sure if Seagate ever going to support maxtor's hd for 5 years. As for the fry's deal, they got seagate's 400gig for 99.99 last couple of days and from time to time:).

PP Mguire
10-22-2006, 03:18 PM
1 None of my Maxtor drives have failed me, so i would make the Seagate my main drive and my Maxtor my backup cause i know for sure ill NEVER LOSE my backup even if the Seagate fails. I have all Maxtor drives though, so i never worry about it anyways. Only time i worry about it is when i screw something up myself and crash my own HD by messing with something i shouldnt have been.

2 Warranty. Back when Maxtor was still Maxtor i could have sent my old 3gig HD in any time i wanted to and got a replacement. Didnt matter what "#" the warranty had next to it. Now i just go out and buy a newer bigger HD if one i need dosent exactly fit my expectations. One of my dads old friends gave my mom a 40gig HD as a birthday present. Well dumb her she put it on the car roof and it fell down to the concrete parking lot. We sent it back expecting to pay for a new one. What did they do? They sent us a letter stating that the model we sent in was discontinued already and gave us an equivalent in speed and connection 80gig brand new. Im pretty sure the warranty on that 40gig was WAY over with becasue this happend about 3 years ago. Besides, by the time warranty is exceeded even in a year its already outdated twice.

vfrex
10-22-2006, 03:49 PM
Assuming the average person needs no more than 160 gigs (pretty reasonable sparing illegal downloads or more advanced needs), he can backup his data onto two identical 160 gig drives in addition to his base 160gig drive for a whopping total of $165 (seagate prices at Newegg). That is $165 so that he can sleep soundly at night, knowing that all of the papers he's written, photos he's taken, and his music collection exist on three separate drives. Not only is the data safe, that $165 is protected for 5 years from failure...additional confidence when a company is willing to stand behind their product.

IMO, the 5 year warranty, solid track record, and good future prospects make a small premium on Seagate drives trivial. Personally, I want to preserve my documents, pictures, and music dating back to early high school. Throw in e-mail archives and IM and IRC logs, and I have a lot of my life on a digital medium that I don't really want to lose. I think that most people of my generation would feel that way, but it hasn't occured to the majority...yet.

BigD
10-23-2006, 03:53 AM
my maxtor is becommmin my primary drive while my WD is turning into my backup drive.. as i think the backup drive should be more reliable than the primary one

but thats just how i think:roll:

PP Mguire
10-23-2006, 06:01 AM
Thanks BigD thats how i think. As do everybody has their own personal opinions on the subject of what hardware to get i believe i would rather get 2 300gig SATA Maxtor drives for 140 than 2 160gig drives. Also, if you want to backup your data that bad use DVDs and DVD9s. Its farely easier to backup data on a disk and store it in a safe place than a HD that can crash for no reason no matter what brand it is.

vfrex
10-23-2006, 01:14 PM
A HD can crash no matter what brand it is. Getting two to three backup hard drives isn't prohibitively expensive though, and the chances of them all crashing at the same time is highly unlikely. The point is that if your data really means something to you, spending an extra $140-165 for the backups probably isn't a terrible idea. Now, lets look at how Seagate's 5 year warranty comes into play:

You get 3 seagate drives, a 160 gig primary and two 160 gig backups. Total cost = $171. These drives should last for 5 years, and will be replaced if they don't. So, that is the equivalent of spending $34.20 a year for hard drives. $22.80/year to keep two backups. You could do the same with maxtor, but if one of the drives fails in the 4 year period following the seagate's expiration, you're stuck replacing it.

DVD's have the potential to corrode, even in optimal conditions.

Enigmachine
10-23-2006, 02:43 PM
You're right vfrex, data security experts almost never recommend using DVDs as a backup, at least not for corporate data. Not only do they do not have a very long shelf live, but I've had more than one CD or DVD burned on one burner that I couldn't read on a different reader. I have backup CDs that are 2-3 years old that I can't read anymore... Oh, my "documentaries"! :(

So using them for home backups is fine, as long as you do new backups regularly.

PP Mguire
10-24-2006, 08:32 PM
I have to regularly backup because my DL folder gets bigger and bigger with patches, mods, ect. So burning to DVD is not a big thing. Only thing i need to worry about backing up is images and if my drive fails i can go get them from a friend who always has the same games as me. But thats why i have the same HDs for years and dont change unless i need to. As for pictures i have them usualy on 2 HDs, a DVD, and Photobucket so i dont worry about those either. I dont DL music unless i burn it to a regular CD and other music i have the original disk to so thats not a problem either.