Which video card?

[darkorb]

Hey there people.

I am in a bit of a debate with good old Godspeed over here.

He just purchased an Evga 7900gs ko from ncix. Good buy. However, im telling him that for his birthday, (april) he should do the evga stepup, and have his parents pay for the difference for the new card, an 8800gts 320mb.

He says, that he just wants to buy another 7900gs ko for his bday and sli them, and he says they will outperform the 8800gts, now, i dont think so.

Plus, he would have DX10 support, but he doesn't think that it matters :P

[werty316]

7900GS SLi better than a 8800GTS 320MB??? :dielaffin: does Godspeed smoke crack?

Tell him to read Kougar's latest review here of how a 8800GTS 320MB compares to two 7900GTs in SLi:
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1063&pageID=3171

The 8800GTS 320MB is a bit faster than two 7900GTs in SLi and since the 7900GS is slower than the 7900GT, the answer to the question on hand is simple.

[Kougar]

Actually that is Pym's review, not mine. ;)

Pym was using the 640mb edition of the 8800GTS in his review, so the 340mb version wouldn't perform as well at the higher settings. It's somewhat of a toss up, unless you know what resolution Godspeed plays his games at.

[werty316]

I knew it was one of you guys so I just guessed :mrgreen:

Still I think a 8800GTS 320MB is a better choice than two 7900GS in SLi.

[darkorb]

and the 8800's have DX10 support

he plays at 1280x1024, but might be going up a res with a new moniter, but i doubt he will get one.

[dracos]

I was reading quite a few reviews about the 8800gts, and the difference between the 320mb and the 640mb is pretty much nothing, performance wise... except of course the money difference

I'm dumping my sli-7900GTs to get one of the 8800gts

I'm honestly sick of my 7900's, I have had nothing but problems with them, after 4 RMAS to BFG, I said to hell with it... the cards still won't run 3dmark01se, it will lock everything up on me and I'll have to power the system off... it sucks... and of course I get wonderful random BSODs while playing BF2142.... I'll never buy another BFG vid card...

[pc_man_iac]

Whats with the random BFG bashing, I have owned about6-7 BFG cards, and never had a single issue with them I have owned another company had 2 of their cards, had terrible issues with them, But I wont say there name, as um well, ppl may be angry on this forum, with the love for them, and the love of this forum from them, Like my current BFG 8800GTS 640mb card, runs saweet, and before this I had a BFG 7900gt, a BFG 7800GT, a BFG 6800Ultra, a BFG 6800 (AGP), 2xBFG 6600gt's, and not a single eror ever to occur

[Xero (1)ne]

keep in mind also that the review was using a OC'ed version of the 8800 GTS
with some nice overclocking on hte 7900 side i think it could outrun the 7900, however getting an 8800 would be a smarter choice as far as an upgrade standpoint goes.

unless Godspeed is like me and also likes to ride on his hardware till it dies(im still on 754, and probably gonna sli my 7900gs because....well...i can sell them later)

[sushrukh]

An 8800GTS will be the smarter choice & future proof too.

Look at these pics below :-
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1.Oblivion :-
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2.HL2-Episode One :-
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3. Prey :-
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Now, all benchmarks can't tell lie.7900GS SLI simply can't stand against the G80 GTS.

Review Link :- http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=608&model2=583&chart=211

[tomato]

Sorry Godspeed, but darkorb's wins this round. If you can spend the cash, then an 8800GTS is your better bet over another 7900GS... better performance and future proof with DX10 support ;)

[XJnine]

Whats with the random BFG bashing


Hmm, I don't see it as random BFG bashing. The topic was talking about some 7900 cards and he related a story about his 7900 cards which happen to be manufactured by BFG. Obviously he's had some bad luck with his BFG cards, you have not. Every manufacturer makes good and bad cards, it's just the luck of the draw what you get.

I don't think one person relating their experiences is BFG bashing just like I don't think that you relating your good BFG experiences makes you a BFG fanboy. Because you've managed to have good luck with your BFG cards and you haven't had good luck with your XFX cards I'm sure you'd be more inclined to buy BFG in the future instead of XFX just like Dracos said he'd be more inclined to buy another brand instead of BFG.

Moral of the story: Don't get bent out of shape just because someone doesn't like the same brand of product as you. This isn't a Chevy vs. Ford debate forum.

Sorry for the :offtopic:

[pc_man_iac]

Continued sorry for offtopic, but I guess i see what your sayin as one might consider what I said about XFX bashin, but yeh I understnad, sorry and the 8800gts is ridiculously powerful no matter which version you get I have the 640mb as the 320 wasnt available then, and my friends has the 320 Mine performs about 15% faster

[Godspeed]

Actually i just bought a 7900Gs KO and i really don't want to trade it back in to upgrade to the 8800GTS .I would rather buy a second 7900Gs KO for $175 rather than spending another $240 dollars for everything, even though the 8800GTS has better performance i could not afford and i would rather spend some money on my noisy cpu cooler. Does anyone know any good cpu coolers for a socket LGA775 that they could recommend?

[PP Mguire]

And you think putting another video card cooler is going to help the noise situation any? I believe they are all right, 8800GTS FTW dude seriously. SLI is cool, but not cool enough to kick extra performance out the window. And it dosent give any more cool points for having SLI either.

[sushrukh]

And you think putting another video card cooler is going to help the noise situation any? I believe they are all right, 8800GTS FTW dude seriously. SLI is cool, but not cool enough to kick extra performance out the window. And it dosent give any more cool points for having SLI either.

PP, he's talking about a CPU cooler,not a video card cooler lol.


This is really strange:ahhhhh:.He can buy 2 7900 GS cards worth $350($175x2) but he can't afford one 8800GTS worth $240.Now,what kinda logic is this ?:wink:

[darkorb]

how is the 8800gts $240? If u mean the step-up, then yes.

PP, his case fans are REALLY loud, he don't care about sound, just the his CPU is fairly warm

[Godspeed]

Actually bud i would rather only spend $175 rather than $240 . hows that for logic?

[Xero (1)ne]

Bull, my 7900GS can do just as good as the 7900GT SLi's do in FEAR 1024x960, Maximum settings, 4xFSAA, 16xAF
my 7900gs got ~70fps in FEAR on average at those same settings
in vista i get ~60 on average with those settings



but go with the G80, and then you can SLi that babay later on ;D

[Godspeed]

sorry for being so aggressive but everyone is telling me to upgrade and i really don't want 2:smile:

[Xero (1)ne]

Then do what I'm going to do and squeeze every last living ounce out of your DX9 cards ;D

[werty316]

Here are the current prices of these cards as of this post.

7900GS KO including the rebate: $176.62CAD (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=20496&vpn=256-P2-N624-AR&manufacture=eVGA)($353.24CAD for two)
8800GTS 320MB including the rebate: $359.99CAD (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=22688&vpn=320-P2-N811-AR&manufacture=eVGA)

No offence Godspeed but your choice was a waste of money.

[darkorb]

Last living ounce? he just bought the 7900gs

[Xero (1)ne]

I mean, ride it till it dies.
Run it till it crashes right into the ground :twisted:

But then again that's just my philosiphy on when to know it's time to upgrade :roll:

[PP Mguire]

i would rather spend some money on my noisy cpu cooler.I thought he meant by getting RID of his noisy cpu cooler. I thought he was making a contradiction by saying he wants to get rid of the noise but yet is wanting to put more in there. Just mis-read thats all.
Last living ounce? he just bought the 7900gsHes talking about DX9.

[sushrukh]

I still couldn't understand what that $240 Godspeed is referring to ?

[PP Mguire]

The difference in price for a stepup between his 7900GS and an 8800GTS 320mb.

[sushrukh]

O.k. got it but the difference b2in a 7900GS & a GTS isn't $240.GTS retails for about $350 & his 7900GS retails for about $175.So, the difference is about $175.

[PP Mguire]

So if he gets another 7900GS hes pretty dumb? No offense, what we been saying this whole time.

[tomato]

It sounds as if Godspeed had already made up his mind... so essentially, this thread is pointless. It exists only to create a "darkorb was right and Godspeed was wrong" kind of thread :?

In the end, it's his choice. He will reap the benefits of the 7900GS's in SLI, and deal with DX10 when he has to... I still would've recommended that Godspeed trade/return the 7900GS and spend the extra bit of $ on the 8800GTS, as it sounds like his first 7900GS is very new, if not brand new and still in package. If the card wasn't installed yet, then indeed Godspeed has made an error in his purchasing decision :?

[PP Mguire]

Or maybe to the fact that a single card solution if granted better or similar performace is always better than SLI. Not every game fully or partialy supports SLI. Just casue it says it, dosent mean you get the performance benefiet from it. So like i said before, it dosent make you any cooler to have SLI.