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Kougar
03-29-2007, 04:51 AM
Technology keeps on rolling...

Some notable FACTs:

Penryn
1600FSB Bump SSE4 3.2ghz is the target Higher IPC (Therefore, higher performance over Conroe) Large Virtualization performance gains (IE, Apple will be wanting these) 6 mb L2 cache dualcore & 12mb L2 cache quadcore

Nehalem
Nehalem by 2H'08 Up to 8 cores per chip Up to 16 threads per chip (Hyperthreading) No more FSB, serial point-to-point interconnect (Common System Interface, aka CSI) Integrated DDR3 Memory Controller Some Nehalem cores will feature a mid/low end integrated GPU


Suffice to say, it's an extremely refined, tuned, and slightly changed die-shrink. Penryn will outperform Conroe chips to a small degree, before the SSE4 advantage is factored in.

Most interesting I thought, was this part:

Intel EDAT: the End of the Multi-core Clock Speed Disadvantage?

Intel also talked about its "Enhanced Dynamic Acceleration Technology" which is effectively integrated overclocking based on load. If you are running a single threaded application (or a multi-threaded application that's predominantly using a single thread), Intel's EDAT can power down the second core and increase the frequency of the working core to maintain the same thermal envelope at all times.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=2955 (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=2955)

Edit: If you own AMD stock, I suggest you fasten your 5-point safety harness at this time...

Appended:

Something to keep in mind: Unless your board can easily support a 1,600FSB overclock then don't count of plopping Penryn into your current board. Even then it may not work if the manufacturer doesn't issue an updated BIOS, and they might not since the board isn't designed for a 1.6ghz FSB in the first place.

After that, it's a fairly safe bet that everyone will need STILL both a new board and new DDR3 RAM for Nehalem chips. Unless Intel decides to use a dual DDR2/DDR3 IMC....

sushrukh
03-29-2007, 08:52 AM
Hmm that's interesting.

Integrated DDR3 Memory Controller

Now, that's what i was asking for, from Intel from a long time.An integrated memory controller.
Though i'm interested to know what the K8L has to offer.

Thanks for the information Kougs.

skootyloops
03-29-2007, 09:18 AM
These chips are going to be interesting to say the least. I look foward to this and K10 for the year ;-)

Kougar
03-29-2007, 06:48 PM
Something to keep in mind: Unless your board can easily support a 1,600FSB overclock then don't count of plopping Penryn into your current board. Even then it may not work if the manufacturer doesn't issue an updated BIOS, and they might not since the board isn't designed for a 1.6ghz FSB in the first place.

After that, it's a fairly safe bet that everyone will need both a new board, and new DDR3 RAM for Nehalem chips. Unless of course Intel decides to use a dual DDR2/DDR3 IMC....

skootyloops
03-30-2007, 09:35 AM
Lots of boards currently can support a 1600FSB bus. But as you said its up to the manufactuor to release a bios to support them. And knowing lots of companies they are just going to re-release an old board with the support for the newer chips.

sushrukh
03-30-2007, 03:00 PM
Lots of boards currently can support a 1600FSB bus.

Lot of boards currently support 1600FSB.:ahhhhh: I think u r talking about the 1066 FSB.

XJnine
03-30-2007, 03:17 PM
Unfortunately with such a high FSB it looks like those of us who want to overclock will be out of luck. Not many motherboards will be able to support a higher FSB to get much extra out of these chips. :-(

Kougar
03-30-2007, 03:32 PM
Alot of boards will overclock to 1600FSB. No boards currently officially support this speed.

Consider the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Rev 1 and Rev 2 models, which can overclock to 2,000FSB. Even despite these overclocks they could not pass official certification for 1333FSB processors. Gigabyte had to redesign the circuit board and release the DS3 Rev 3.3 to gain official 1333FSB certification from Intel.

skootyloops
03-30-2007, 03:36 PM
Lot of boards currently support 1600FSB.:ahhhhh: I think u r talking about the 1066 FSB.

I was talking how most C2D boards can technically support 1600FSB, even though they dont currently. I know the difference between 1066FSB and 1600FSB, I used the word can, not do.

sushrukh
03-30-2007, 03:45 PM
Most new Asus boards do support the 1333 FSB.
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If anybody is interested here's the Asus boards that support the 1333FSB officially
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1. Striker Extreme

2. P5B Premium

3. P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP

4. P5B Deluxe

5. P5B-Plus

6. P5B-E Plus

7. P5B-E

8. P5B

9. P5B/TeleSky

10. P5N32-E SLI

11. P5N32-E SLI Plus


12. P5W DH Deluxe


13. P5WDG2 WS PRO/WiFi-AP


14. P5WDG2 WS Professional


15. P5NT WS

sushrukh
03-30-2007, 03:47 PM
I was talking how most C2D boards can technically support 1600FSB, even though they dont currently. I know the difference between 1066FSB and 1600FSB, I used the word can, not do.

Sorry for that skooty.I got it.Thanks.