1066 or 800 ?

[the_dope_chaud]

so guys, a friend of my mom's called me today, he offered me a e6600 for 175 bucks canadian, he does video editing, and he just grabbed a 300$ q6600 (dam him!) so my question is, knowing the 6600 has a multiplier of 9 and the 4300 or 4500 I was gonna buy this weekend (or at least order) has a 800 mhz fsb and 9 or higher multi
I have corsair xms2 sticks, 667 cl4
from various NCIX :
-wanted to say that this ram does 4-4-4-12 timings at ddr800 with 2.1 volts. not bad for 2 gigs for 70 bucks
-I have this same kit and it will do 5-5-5-12 at DDR920 with only 2.1volts. Awesome! Plenty enough to keep up with my E4300 at 3.15ghz, I just got an Ultra 120-Extreme and am running Orthos at 3.24 right now, 3.33 boots into Windoze but requires too much voltage (1.625v!)
-had a bit more time to work with this ram and so far with with 2.1v i can get it up to ddr 850 with 4-4-4-12 timings, been using it at this for a few days and everything seems stable, and i could get it to run at ddr690 with 3-3-3-9 and for the hell of it i set the ram to 5-6-6-21 and was able to hit ddr1020.

so I want some advice, should I go for that 6600 which is maybe an old (GOOD)stepping or will I have trouble with it ? should I stick with the 800 fsb processors? I don't know what to do !

BTW-Im stressed because hes leaving for a month on sunday and I would like to build soon and
BTW-2 I have gigabyte 650i mobo, if that makes ANY difference

[werty316]

Wait, let me get see if I get this, you already have an E4300?

If you don't I would go for the E6600 as the overclocking potential is probably better and it has double the cache when compared to the E4300/E4500.

Other than that and if you already have an E4300, I wouldn't spend the $170 on that E6600 since you won't really see a performance difference to justify the purchase unless you can get a very good overclock out of it.

Its just like the users who spend the money on an E6420 even if they already own a E6420 just so they can have the extra cache, its not really worth it.

[Kougar]

What Werty said. ;)

[tyle6]

offer him 150-. whats a new e6600 worth?

[werty316]

offer him 150-. whats a new e6600 worth?
Around $240-250CAD and maybe 180-200CAD when on sale.

[the_dope_chaud]

no, i have an amd x2 in my sig, i wanna know because I only have 200 $ and I never thought I could afford a e6600, I will call him tonight after work

[Bio-Hazard]

If you can talk him down, somemore, then I'd say go for it, but remember that the E6600 are old news now (basicly replaced by the E6850 multi wise) and will be discontinued if I remember correctly.

[the_dope_chaud]

so i called him and I should go pick it up today.
the 6600 is maybe old, but pretty much top of the line, I dont believe that these 1333 fsb c2d are really a great step up in performance, and I dont have ram to go with some of those processors, overclockwise. (nor 300+ bucks for a q6600)
I was hoping to pick up a 6420, they looked good, but I dont see price cuts yet and I am inpatient. (plus the few places I called dont have much stock) So this 6600 looked like a good deal, and I'm limited to 200 dollars for a local buy...no NCIX this time

PLUS the guy bought it november 2006 so its not too old, he didn't OC it, hes giving me the retail box so I can go check the stepping, and I'll try to talk down the price a little...
sounds reasonable to me

PS maybe I can save a twenty by not taking the stock hsf? :)

[tyle6]

go for it! i would say offer him 150 and play the bargaining game. the stock HSF sucks with coredou's anyways lol! and if she is from the timeframe you say should be a good stepping to OC. i believe the earlier e6600s OC'ed way better then any of the newer ones.

[Bio-Hazard]

so i called him and I should go pick it up today.
the 6600 is maybe old, but pretty much top of the line, I dont believe that these 1333 fsb c2d are really a great step up in performance, and I dont have ram to go with some of those processors, overclockwise. (nor 300+ bucks for a q6600)
I was hoping to pick up a 6420, they looked good, but I dont see price cuts yet and I am inpatient. (plus the few places I called dont have much stock) So this 6600 looked like a good deal, and I'm limited to 200 dollars for a local buy...no NCIX this time

PLUS the guy bought it november 2006 so its not too old, he didn't OC it, hes giving me the retail box so I can go check the stepping, and I'll try to talk down the price a little...
sounds reasonable to me

PS maybe I can save a twenty by not taking the stock hsf? :)
You can use the same ram on the new CPUs as the old C2D, no differance needed there.........:icon_tiphat:. The huge differance in the new 1333 FSB CPU's over the past 1066 is voltage required for OC's and a "LOT" cooler running, that's where these new CPU's shine............:ahhhhh:

[Delta]

go for it! i would say offer him 150 and play the bargaining game. the stock HSF sucks with coredou's anyways lol! and if she is from the timeframe you say should be a good stepping to OC. i believe the earlier e6600s OC'ed way better then any of the newer ones.

I could not agree more and would not pay more than $150.00
I got mine last Oct/Nov and it is L630A962 and I run it at 3.6 ghz -24/7 with no problems on a P965 chipset with Vcore @ 1.425v
The 650i board and your memory should do well with this Chip and with your Zalman cooler, providing that your ambient temp in your case/room is not too high.

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/658/cpuzc2de6600cg5.th.jpg (http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuzc2de6600cg5.jpg)

[Bio-Hazard]

3.6 is a breeze with the new cores even with a 8x multi............;)

And you can get them in Canada brand new with warranty for around $200-$230............;) Much better deal IMHO.

[Delta]

3.6 is a breeze with the new cores even with a 8x multi............;)

And you can get them in Canada brand new with warranty for around $200-$230............;) Much better deal IMHO.

Those are some great temps you have on that new G0.

I ran mine at 450/1800 but with the P965 NB straps and internal latencies changing after 400 mhz the memory performance hit was not worth the higher FSB. I would have had to clock up to 480 mhz to gain the performance back and the NB just did not want to go that high with a cpu that has a stock multiplier of 9.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5205/stress4hrswo6.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stress4hrswo6.jpg)

[Bio-Hazard]

That's what I like about the memory controler on the nvidia chipsets, you can set the speed to whatever you like completely indepentant of the CPU.......;) I'm running my memory 1:1 right now with 4-4-4-12 timings.

[the_dope_chaud]

hey ,I picked up that 6600 for 160 bucks!
intelled yesterday , now burnin it in a little...
can anybody tell me the secret button to press in gigabyte bios, Im missing access to a few things like ram timings...weird, becaus I have normal access to MIT motherboarf intelligent tweaker, with all the voltages and stuff but no ram timings...
my proc made 3.4 yesterday, with only a bump in northbridge volts, but its hot and humid now, ambient temps are 35... so backed it down, will burn in ac5 a little, and find smallest voltage possible.
a few screenshots, but question...what is that error message intel TAT gives me, it refuses to work! (never mind, just read that it requires intel chipset)
And a picture of the box, I believe that L630 is a great batch and should do 3.6 once its cooler and I have set the settings...
BTW, my chipset runs 60 degrees under load, with a 60 mili fan on it, but it feels cold to the touch, why is that? (temps from everest AND speedfan)
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4831/screensw5.th.png (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screensw5.png)

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5176/photo032ih5.th.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photo032ih5.jpg)

[tyle6]

you should be able to get 3.6 no prob. i can get 3.6 out of mine with nothing more then ddr533 overclocked. ram doesn't want stabilize at 800mhz though. proccy barely broke a sweat at 3.6 with around 36 degrees idle temp and its atleast 26 degrees in this room LOL was using 1.425V

[Bio-Hazard]

If you can't get 3.6 out of a E6600, there's something seriously wrong...........;) Hell, I was getting that out of a E4300, just a hint, idle temps don't mean a darn thing, load temps is where it matters...........;)

[tyle6]

very true, i was not ever able to get any load temps at 3.6 as the ram was just not stable and was taking alot of voltage so i just let it go and settled for the 1450fsb till the mushkin gets back. Still looking for a high performance 14cm case fan aswell right now the front fan is only pushing 34cfm. the thing is the only fan i can find that will do what want is in the U.K. anyone hear of www.aria.co.uk ? they have a nice zaward 14cm with 103.5 cfm. aswell a its using a regular 3 pin connection not a molex. so i can hook it into the fan controller. i just cant bring myself to order the 15 dollar fan and pay 45 in shipping LOL