No Post after BIOS Update

[xfxsupport]

If your BIOS update seems to go smoothly but there is no post upon the reboot, please remove the CMOS battery and disconnect the power cord from the system for a few minutes. Then reconnect both and reboot as this seems to resolve such issues. If you still have problems after that, please let us know.

[MazrimTaim]

Has anyone expierenced this with the 680i SLI motherboard? I just updated to P30 bios using the winflash utility and my board wouldn't post. I'm trying the battery thing right now.

[bikerdude]

Hi there

Yes I had the same thing happen to me when upgrading to the P31 bios using the winflash util....It crashed right after I flashed the board... just kept getting beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep...beeeeeeeeeeeeeeep and no post.

The motherboard would not power up, took it back to the shop and what do yer know.... it powered up dag nammit..

The moral of the story here is NOT to use the windows flash util, but rather the update facility from within the bios menu...!!!

biker

[werty316]

Updating the BIOS in windows is risky; you are much better off using a flashdrive, CD or the good 'ole 3.25" floppy.

[Scott]

Yep, that is the only reason all my rigs still have floppy drives.

[werty316]

Same reason why I still use one as there is really no other reason why I use it other than to update a BIOS here and there.

[Xero (1)ne]

Same reason I have one. :)

Sometimes BIOS flashes can be shakey. I updated my friend's BIOS in his Abit board and it wouldn't boot for a couple of times but then after a few reset button punches and power cord pulls, it booted!

[DanD]

Hi,

i had this issue too with the 680i LT mobo.
did the bios update with a HDD booted DOS partition and with a DOS Disk.

Issue resolved by reflashing the 721N9P06 Bios with a PLCC Programmer. Now everything is fine...

Mobo: XFX 680i LT SLI
Graka: 2x XFX 8800 GTS 320
PSU: OCZ ModXstream 900W
CPU: Q6600@2400Mhz
Mem:OCZ 4x 1GB PC2 6400 PN: OCZ2FX800C32GK@800Mhz/2.4V/3-4-4-15(Bios defaults@SLIMemready,CPUMAXOC)

What makes me wondering is that the mem is running at 2.4Volts@nooverclock...

Best Regards
Daniel

[Rammstein85]

Hi,
I had also a bad expirence with winflash and updating to bios P06. After the restart I see the XFX logo, but its not going further for 10 seconds. Suddenly the PC shust off, after trying to restart or put the jumper to pin 1,2 or put the battery out for 5 minutes nothing helped. PC isnt booting at all.
Now I see a blue and yellow light in the Mainboard when its powered is on

MB-N680-ILT9
S/N: I3F007798

[Reded]

Hi,
I had also a bad expirence with winflash and updating to bios P06. After the restart I see the XFX logo, but its not going further for 10 seconds. Suddenly the PC shust off, after trying to restart or put the jumper to pin 1,2 or put the battery out for 5 minutes nothing helped. PC isnt booting at all.
Now I see a blue and yellow light in the Mainboard when its powered is on

MB-N680-ILT9
S/N: I3F007798

I have the same problem after bios update in Windows. Bad move! I have all kinds of problems booting now and can't even go back to old bios. My fans are running at full speed. I tried the battery removal but I can't get it back to original settings. Anyone got any clues?

XFX 680i LT SLI

[chjohans]

Yes, a BIOS update in Windows *is* risky. But XFX does not even provide an alternative way (read DOS) to update the BIOS on their newest 780i board. I've had a support case with them for more than a month and they are unable to provide something other than the Windows update, they insist that's the safest way.

Now you and me know better than that. :frown:

[Nocutius]

I guess i'm one of the lucky ones, i've updated bios in windows a couple of times now and never had a problem. I don't have a floppy drive for at least five years now if not more. Hope i don't run out of luck.

[Miker]

Windows flash *is* less risky, it has a lower failure rate, that is why so many companies use it. 90% of companies tell you to use winFlash, some give you other methods, some don't.

Some people think doing a floppy, which is in there control, is better. But it is best to use window, specially for beginners. We are telling people on here that never went into BIOS before to flash there BIOS from BIOS.

Back on topic,

@ Biker
"The motherboard would not power up, took it back to the shop and what do yer know.... it powered up dag nammit.."

Did you reset CMOS?

[noobzed]

I have 790i mobo, is it possible yo flash eVGA bios to an XFX ?
If yes, what is method ?

[andy_js]

I have the same problem after bios update in Windows. Bad move! I have all kinds of problems booting now and can't even go back to old bios. My fans are running at full speed. I tried the battery removal but I can't get it back to original settings. Anyone got any clues?

XFX 680i LT SLI

I have exactly the same problem, I can boot the system if I reset the CMOS beforehand. After that I am prompted to continue booting using defaults, or go into bios. If I go into the bios and make any changes it hangs after I exit. If I hit Del and continue with the defaults it works until I reboot or shut it off again.

Any fixes? This is seriously frustrating.

BTW: Opening nTune or Nvidia Monitor causes and instant power-off. I assume that is because they are trying to access the CMOS.

So far I am not impressed with XFX.

[Bin Boy]

[QUOTE=noobzed;135091]I have 790i mobo, is it possible yo flash eVGA bios to an XFX ?
If yes, what is method ?[/QUOTE

es i would like to know to, evga have a flash.exe to update the bios but this is the worries i have.

Updating the bios to the same version of bios can make the bios corrupt?

Whats the best way to find out the bios of an XFX 790i currently to there maybe no need to update the bios at all?

CPU-z doesn't show on the motherboard section nothing with p*** just phoenix award 6.00

thanks

[sakaana]

I think the best solution would be to offer all the files:

1) DOS version via boot-cd /disk
2) Win version via NForce Tools

Cause personlly i can`t get what ppl can do wrong when booting from a CD...

[pshelton]

I have the same problem after bios update in Windows. Bad move! I have all kinds of problems booting now and can't even go back to old bios. My fans are running at full speed. I tried the battery removal but I can't get it back to original settings. Anyone got any clues?

XFX 680i LT SLI

I had the same problem initially. Where all of the fans are running and the blue and yellow lights are on, but no video. For me, the problem was one of the DIMM slots. Try booting with one stick of memory and the other and see what happens.

[sidera]

I had my system up for about 2 days then updated the bios. Now I am having the same 790i FF no post problem: UGH! I have tried removing the all power, removing the CMOS battery and letting it sit overnight – just the same no post FF status. I tried the cheap memory 1GB thing still doesn’t work. I just found this forum and I’m not happy about the support from XFX! My ticket has been open since June 4 and I’m still waiting on a tech… There response can be measured in tree rings… can anyone help....
My setup:
· XFX 790i Ultra
· EVGA 9800 GTX
· 2x2GB OCZ PC3 1066
· Ultra X3 1000W PSU
· Intel Q9450

[rone909]

I've hosed 2 790i boards trying to update to P05 BIOS using the floppy method. Board is at XFX for RMA because of the instant FF code.

If you do have a ticket open with XFX call them and speak to someone to get RMA number and ship it to them. There's no way that board is coming back from and instant FF with out XFX getting involved.

Also, all of the XFX techs that I talked to advise that you should not use the nVidia system tools from the CD that came with your board to flash the BIOS.

How did you flash your BIOS?

[TypicalBill]

Also, all of the XFX techs that I talked to advise that you should not use the nVidia system tools from the CD that came with your board to flash the BIOS.

How did you flash your BIOS?

That is exactly what i did and now i'm stuck :(

[XFX Tech]

Make at ticket at http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/Help/Support.aspx and PM me your ticket number.

[TypicalBill]

Make at ticket at http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/Help/Support.aspx and PM me your ticket number.


So i started a ticket over there and after explaining the problem in as much detail as possible the support's response was talk to your reseller :?


very dissapointed.

[srpeters18]

Are you in North America? NA support and Europe support are very, very different. If you're in North America they can be very helpful. Just PM the ticket number to XFX tech, like he said.

[TypicalBill]

Are you in North America? NA support and Europe support are very, very different. If you're in North America they can be very helpful. Just PM the ticket number to XFX tech, like he said.

I'm actually in Asia right now. But bought the stuff through Amazon.

I did talk to XFX tech, he helped me. I'm dissapointed in the support i got from the technician that had my ticket number and just ended up telling me to contact my reseller. We all know that's a last resort. Having contacted a technician from the company using a ticket, I thought they'd atleast have time to tell me to try some things that i might not know instead of the answer I got.

[XFX Tech]

There isn't really anything you can do with a failed BIOS flash except replace the BIOS chip. That is why they didn't try to diagnose anything. I don't think that the Asia warranty covers that. Was it bought from Amazon in the US?

[TypicalBill]

There isn't really anything you can do with a failed BIOS flash except replace the BIOS chip. That is why they didn't try to diagnose anything. I don't think that the Asia warranty covers that. Was it bought from Amazon in the US?


Yes.

[Gerald]

I'ver found the best and SAFEST was id thru Dos, see too many win flashes bomb out. Just went thru a bad one trying to window flash a XFX 8200 board....:icon_tiphat:

[Mikey2]

I just used the iso burnt to a CD to flash my xfx 680i LT to 07. Everything indicated a successful CMOS update; however, both CPU-Z and Everest are still reporting that I'm still on P06.

I suppose this means my update was unsuccessful? The only unclear part was that it said "push F10 to cancel" but when it was done, it said, "take the disc out and push F10." LOL one fricken' button and I am still confused. What should I do? :help:

[XFX Tech]

Those programs report the version on the AWARD BIOS that the 680iLT BIOS is based off of. It says version 6.00PG right? Turn off your full screen logo if it is on and restart the computer. Press the Pause key on your keyboard at the first BIOS screen. There is a release number in the top left of that screen. If it ends in P07 than you are fine.

[Mikey2]

Oh cool, thanks for the response....no wonder I missed it; I was looking in the BIOS setting pages and that first screen flashes by very quickly.

It says 721N9p07, so it looks like I'm set.

Thanks again for the response!
MikeY

[burd3002]

I am having trouble with a bios update. I created a new post but then noticed I should have responded to this post sorry. I have been stressing out not having my pc up and running that I have been scanning more than reading. Anyways I have a 790i and was attempting a Bios update. It had an error when It was installing and locked up. I restarted the computer and now it does not post. I tried all of the suggested fixes but none of them seemed to have work since it is doing the same thing since the error. When starting up there is no beeps or sounds and it says FF as soon as it is powered up. I tried the jumpers, I tried the battery, I tried holding power while doing the jumper, I tried taking out components to see if somethign else was bad but they all worked in a friends computer. I appreciate any help that can be given. My ticket number at XFx is 176405. Also if i do get an rma how long does the process usually take? I appreciate all your help in advance thank you soo much

http://bjorn3d.com/forum/images/misc/progress.gif

[TieT]

Hello,

Im new here and just wanted to share my experience.
So i invested in a new comp
XFX 790i ultra mb
Q9450
XFX GTX280
4gb OCZ
850w Thermaltake psu

When i put it all together i was surprised with the performance , 6 hours later when i finally installed all the software/drivers/updates i did a bios update...
(downloaded from the xfx site)

Bad idea:ahhhhh:

Ive been building computers for almost 10 years now, but never had these kind of problems with a bios... :jawdrop:

In the old days, i used floppy's and booted in dos to do the bios update
Nowadays i always use the winflash utility without experiencing problems, until i bought this XFX board with the ULTRA CRAPPY bios.
instead of putting on a LCD poster they should consider a backup bios imho i find that a lot more useful.

ive owned asus, gigabyte, msi, dfi and asrock mb's flashed the bios so much i cant remember, NEVER had problems!!
A board over 300$ with such a bios is just unacceptable

I tried everything !!
clear cmos overnight, putting the graka in another slot to get errors ,swithed the memory , booted with no cpu , booted without memory,... just everything .

No luck still keeps giving the bloody FF error.

The mb was 6 hours old, im frustrated as hell !!
I had to send it back and im still waiting after 4 weeks.

Conclusion: im never buying a mb from XFX again im sticking with gigabyte.

[corinn]

Those programs report the version on the AWARD BIOS that the 680iLT BIOS is based off of. It says version 6.00PG right? Turn off your full screen logo if it is on and restart the computer. Press the Pause key on your keyboard at the first BIOS screen. There is a release number in the top left of that screen. If it ends in P07 than you are fine.

Not sure if anyone is still responding to this thread, but I have been having the same issues. I paused at the first BIOS screen and got this info:
Phoenix - AwadBIOS v6.00PG
(6A61IR03) Release number 721N1P05
NVIDIA BIOS Version: 2.053.91.

I have started a ticket with XFX tech support and will PM you the number after. I was asked to burn the iso file given to me through this link. (http://www.xfxsupport.com/download/download.asp?supid=229)

Thank you.

[coolville]

After reading this entire thread I am both shocked and saddened by the fact that a clear consensus on successfully flashing the bios on an XFX mobo hasn't been clarified, not even by the XFX Tech's.

I've been buying components for this build since mid June and I will be attempting to put it together at the end of this month...now I read this thread, can someone please tell me how to successfully flash a BIOS for an XFX 780i...can it even be done? I have a floppy drive and an IDE CD burner, so what should I use to flash the BIOS? Thanks.

[XFX Tech]

Flash with a CD. The chances of anything going wrong with a CD flash is basically nothing in a functional systems.

[coolville]

Flash with a CD. The chances of anything going wrong with a CD flash is basically nothing in a functional systems.

ty sir, that's what I'll do.

[Emmer]

Hey,

My system froze up so i decided to reboot it.
Now only my hdd led flashes for a second and i dont see anything on my 19 inch tft.
All lights on the mobo are on.
Even i dont see any hdd activity.And i dont see the power led on my pc case on.

Any suggestions what to do?

Thx alot,

Emmer.

[PokySmot]

I am reporting that I still have problems after overnighting the CMOS out of the mobo with the AC power cord unplugged. I attempted BIOS flash update to P08 using winflash as prescribed by the XFX website (they had no other option to update) and the pdf included with the winflash exe downloaded from XFX. I still have no POST, just initial startup light flash all three LEDs on the board spark (blue, amber, and green) and all fans but the rear chassis fan spin away.

Made ticket with XFX, I really did not need this. My last 3 updates were successful, but now I see that there are issues with XFX flash updates.

[PokySmot]

Took apart machine and rebuilt, piece by piece. Found bad sticks of memory. 2x2048 OCZ SLI-ready 800s RMA'd

Never knew memory can cause no-POST. :)

[Speed Seeker]

If your BIOS update seems to go smoothly but there is no post upon the reboot, please remove the CMOS battery and disconnect the power cord from the system for a few minutes. Then reconnect both and reboot as this seems to resolve such issues. If you still have problems after that, please let us know.

Yep, no post, did as you instructed and still no post, no power led on front pannel, onboard post led reads FF constantly.
Balls in your court mate.

[Speed Seeker]

I forgot to mention this part; I have also placed 2 tickets and have been totaly ignored.
I have been building systems for the past 22 years, 4 years at uni to study in this field, and in all my years, I have never come across such a faild motherboard. Hell, I thought Gigabyte had problems with support, XFX make them look like rank ametures.
The 709i would have to be the best examply of hype masking people from knowing what a dog of a motherboard this thing really is.
I have poured a lot of time and money into making this motherboard work, and to date, All I have to show for it is a expencive heap of metal that may be better served as a anchor off my boat while fishing off the great barrier reef near Cairns.
For those who feel they may be able to offer me a solution to this problem, here are my specs;
XFX 790i Ultra
2 x Galaxy 9800GTX
2 x 2GB OCZ DDR3 1333 Gold edition
3 x 750 SATAII Western Digital
1 x 1 TB Seagate SATAII
2 x ASUS Duel Layer DVD drives
Thermaltake Toughpower 850watt
Onboard sound
Thermaltake Amour + case

Here is what I am experiencing;
- No boot up
- No display
- internal let post shows FF constantly
- All LED's at top of mobo light up correctly and in soft off
- No over heat LED displaying
- All fans running and constant red LED on front pannel for HDD's
- No front pannel power light when turned on.

And like I said, I have done 2 tickets as well with absolutly no response.
Sugestions / anything that my leade to this thing fireing up stabily would go some ways to restoring what at the moment is a very bad reputation for both XFX and nVidia from a ever growing number of people who feel they have been conned into purchasing a very expencive lemon.

[briancowen]

Hey,

My system froze up so i decided to reboot it.
Now only my hdd led flashes for a second and i dont see anything on my 19 inch tft.
All lights on the mobo are on.
Even i dont see any hdd activity.And i dont see the power led on my pc case on.

Any suggestions what to do?

Thx alot,

Emmer.


Had a similar problem, i thought it was my video cards or the pci-e slots. Turned out the be the dvi dual cable went bad, so i swapped it out for a standard vga cable and bam i had my video back....

[flaviodesousa]

Well, I did it too, tried reflashing on Windows (Vista-64 Ultimate) via nVidia application, got a bad verification, didn't restore the backup BIOS (my biggest error, I think), restarted the machine (my other biggest error, this one for sure). And then... :ahhhhh: POST FF, nothing more!:icon_tiphat:

I would like to get tips on reflashing my BIOS or getting a new one:

To reflash:
- What are the voltages of the BIOS chip?
- Any PLCC-32 programmer will do or there are differences for those 8Mbit chips?
- I wouldn't like to remove the BIOS chip stickers (perhaps that would void the reseller warranty), so what are the chip specs and part#?
- I have made a backup of my previous BIOS which is living inside the dead machine HD, to get it back means mounting the HD on another machine. There is a place to get version P06? At xfxforce.com I only found the P08 version.
- I intend to try first using P08 version, there is any relevant issue I should know?

To replace:
- What PLCC chips may I use? Which is the recommended one?

I would greatly appreciate any tips and insights!

[MykC]

Hello,

My XFX 8200 GeForce won't post after 1.4 BIOS update. I previously had 1.3 BIOS. After I flashed it read d5 on the LED. I removed the battery from the motherboard and disconnected the power cord. I reconnected the power cord and plugged the battery back in. It still won't post, the LED reads something incoherent, its not forming full letters.

What are my next steps? This is a dual bios board, can I activate the back up BIOS?

[MykC]

Really? 6 days later, no suggestions or warnings.

[MykC]

Ok, I did myself. I swapped the backup bios in for the non-working bios. I rebooted. I swapped out the backup bios and put the non-working bios back into the motherboard. I reflashed the non-working bios with the 1.3 bios using winflash. And now the original bios is working again. Thats for the guidance.

note: 1.4 bios asks you to burn the image and boot from the CD.

[a1namill]

Hi, I'am kinda A noob in PC builds but am no amature to electronics. ALWAYS after you unplug the power cord "PUSH" :bump:the on off button/switch to drain the capacitors (caps) on the MOBO, Just A little FYI,and when frustrated just step back and take A deep breath clear your head and never give up !! :-) A1..........

[Macsleuth]

Wish I would have read this forum first, might not have gotten an XFX board.
Did the BIOS update from within Windows, as posted, After rebooting, nothing. Got FF on LCD, all 3 lights on top of M/B are on, Drive light solid, no power light, rear case fan not turning. Very similar to several posts here.
Looks like I've got the same issue. Tried clearing CMOS, no change, pulled power cord and pressed power button to clear M/B of power, pulled M/B battery, left over night. No change. Posted ticket with XFX, but I don't think they have tech support on the week-ends???
So I've got a dead system and I have to wait for XFX to reply.
Hope XFX tech support is not as bad as it's made out to be on this forum.
Uh, also tried booting with no memory, of course, no change. No beeps, no noise, nothing on monitor. Tried booting from floppy, but it doesn't get that far.
There is one red light tha comes on, it's located to the left of the 3 lights at the top of the board. can't see what it says though.

[Macsleuth]

Ordered a new BIOS on ebay yesterday. Still no news from XFX.
But I can't have this newsystem sitting here doing nothing, would like to have this system up and running ASAP. So glad I hadn't transfered data to it yet. I would be so pissed.
So, we'll see what happens this week.
If this is the kind of support I can expect from XFX, I'll have to rethink my video card purchases for this system.

[Macsleuth]

Ok, they replied to my support ticket.
No break thru, but they mentioned some of the items that can cause a no boot issue and asked for the M/B serial #.
Hopefully, this means I'm going to have a good experience.

[Macsleuth]

Got my RMA today from XFX, so going to pak my M/B and send it off to them tomorrow. Hopefully it won't take too long.
Holding off on my video card purchace until I get the M/B back.
I can hardly wait.

[calibro101]

Hi everyone,
I am joining the rest of the people here who have flashed to bios 1.4

I use the ISO file from xfx's website. I was running in ahci mode since i was using Sata ports 5 & 6 on the 750A SLI motherboard.

As soon as the flash completed successfully, I rebooted and got the checksum error.
Pressing Del took me to setup which, when I saved settings, the computer would turn off, then no on-screen display.

Pressing F2 to load defaults would load vista, but on restart, back to square 1.

the only way to get any display would be to reset cmos using the jumper everytime.

I have submitted ticket 232068 to XFX, crossing my fingers!

[Macsleuth]

Got my RMA today from XFX, so going to pak my M/B and send it off to them tomorrow. Hopefully it won't take too long.
Holding off on my video card purchace until I get the M/B back.
I can hardly wait.

Yay a tech is looking at my my M/B. Should hear something soon.
Will keep you posted.

[bloads]

Wish I would have read this forum first, might not have gotten an XFX board.

my sentiments exactly

[Blacksmith1]

I had to rma my board but not for this. I have had few problems since I got the new one, so I'm pretty happy with it. some of them are just not good from the factory. this site makes it look like alot but you only see a small percentage of the boards sold here. overall they are a decent product. I just wish i had spent a bit more for a better chipset...

[printingwizard]

installed new bios v1.7, get checksum , set time, and when i hit the enter button, power goes out on board,reboots, no post, display shows 88 and sits there, clear cmos, restart,tried default settings, hit enter for save changes, and again power goes out and the cycle begins again.

[sheck]

OK, I have 750a and just updated BIOS to version 1.7 and now every time I save BIOS settings and shutdown Windows, PC won't boot anymore till I clear CMOS. It seems to be some setting in BIOS that does it, but I haven't been able to pinpoint which one.

I tried to downgrade to v 1.5, but it's not working, BIOS stays at 1.7. Does anybody know how to downgrade or which setting causes this ?

XFX support is 100% useless, so I'm hoping someone here knows something.

[sheck]

So I found the setting that causes this. It was the setting that allows to set keyboard key to wake the PC up. When PC is shutdown this option disabled the power button and the keyboard ??? WOW, someone didn't think this through.

Anyways, hope this can help someone and I'm sticking with ASUS.