Awesome! Zalman move

[lewislink]

My temps were this:

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/lewislink2/CoreTemps-previous.jpg

On this:

WindowsXP Home
P5N-E SLI (non-SLI mode)
C2D E4400 @2.8GHz
2GB OCZ DDR2-800 Reaper Edition
Asus EN6200-TC (only for the time being :) )
SeaSonic 650


Then I bought this:

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/lewislink2/7700_alcu_f_p.jpg


And my temps went to this:

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/lewislink2/Latestcoretemps.jpg

[darkorb]

nice, what heatsink were u on before?

oh nice fan speed :D

[lewislink]

LOL, yeah don't get to close the 'em. ..at least the front ones. lol But if you do, please note the board rev number on your way through the front and out the back, please :D

The other HS was this:

http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Cooler/TMG/CL-P0372/cl-p0372.asp

[werty316]

Put your CPU under a load and then you'll see how efficent that HSF is.

[slugbug]

I'm surprised the fans don't disintegrate at that speed :lol:

[lewislink]

Under a load, as you wish...hehe:

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/lewislink2/orthosloadtemps.2.jpg

[lewislink]

I'm surprised the fans don't disintegrate at that speed :lol:

They're made from reverse engineered recovered alien spaceship alloy. :lol:

[trueg50]

Looking good so far!

55 degree's C under load is a bit on the high side though, might want to check your cases air flow.

[lewislink]

This particular case doesn't have as well of airflow as my main one. It could certainly stand to have some large fans modded in.

[Bio-Hazard]

Now all you need is the newest CoreTemp to check your temps as version 0.94 reads Alendale cores (L2 stepping) 15c low. The standard (original Conroe) had a Tjunction of 85c where the Alendales have a Tjunction of 100c, this causes the temps to real low. This is the same problem with the new 1333 FSB Conroe, they also have a Tjunction of 100c causing them to read low with anything other than the newest version of CoreTemp.

Core Temp Beta 0.95.4

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

[lewislink]

Actaully the newest versions have issues...with this board, anyway.

I use this version because it is accurate and is the same readings as anything else:

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/lewislink2/CoreTemps-2.jpg

BTW, that's the old temps...with the other HS

[Bio-Hazard]

Those temps aren't correct even if they match speed fan or your other software, but whatever, it's your system....................;) Version 0.95 would even be better..........;), as long as it's showing a Tjunction of 85c, it's completely wrong.

[lewislink]

All of the versions are up there.

So what you are saying is that, even though the predominant temp reading there is closest to what the hardware monitor in BIOS shows, only 0.9.5 is correct?

[lewislink]

Here's a picture of the BIOS on this particular system I just now took and uploaded:

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/lewislink2/BIOSonP5N-ESLI.jpg

[Bio-Hazard]

Your system bios only takes it's reading from the onboard hardware monitor, just like most monitoring software. This is only as close as the guys that programmed the HW monitor and they are well known of being maybe close at best.
The correct version of coretemp is basicly the only current software out that reads the temp from the core it's self, but you have to use the corect version that sees for core correctly and for the Alendale L2 cores, that's 0.95 and above.

[lewislink]

Well, okay, next step then, connect a quality physical temp probe. :) Seeing as howyou are ignoring all of the proof and pretty much saying, "The whole world is wrong and I'm right". lol

[Frag Maniac]

Lewis you really should have done a test at load BEFORE installing the Zalman. Comparing the before and after load results is the best way to show what it can do.

I don't expect such a device to cool as well as water, but I'm seriously considering aftermarket air coolers for both CPU and GPU on my next rig for an affordable solution to balance cooling with low noise. I'm not really into OCing but even good air coolers will certainly allow for it.

BTW, how are the noise levels compared to the stock HSF?

[lewislink]

This is an old rig. I've done many tests on it. I have all of the requisite tests.

Here's what was before under load. This is a while back with the other HS:

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/lewislink2/Test.jpg

[lewislink]

I gurantee, I can show some tests that some people, in one camp, won't want to see while the other people, in the other camp, would rejoice over.

[PP Mguire]

That Thermaltake isnt as efficient as their others really. So im not suprised the older Zalman whooped it. But with my 3000+ core at 1.55v my load temp never went over 50c.

[lewislink]

Hmmm, must be something with AMD processors because my X2 6000+ doesn't go much higher than 50C load @3.3GHz. And the vcore is 1.4975.

Of course, it all depends on the environment temperature. My environment stays at an average of 80F. If I lowered my environment to 75F, that would bring CPU temps down almost that much. So, say 3C lower at 75F would put my 6000+ at or below 50C.

I suppose the reason my wee little E4400 can wipe the floor with this 6000+ is because there is a lot more going on in the functionality of that C2D that causes it to run hotter at loads than the X2 CPU.

[PP Mguire]

The Conroe architecture is alot more advanced and better than the AM2 architecture. The AM2 is pretty much revamped 939 K8s that support DDR2. No offense to AMD of course (im an AMD fanboy) Also, my house usualy stays at 80f as well cause we cant keep the AC running alot. My room if both my laptop and PC are on usualy is around 83.

[lewislink]

I hear ya, there. I keep my window unit set at 82 but during the day can get pretty much warmer. However, during the evening and night can go below 80. That's why I say my av temp is around 80. In the day time when I'm most active on my PC is when I get the higher readings.

I absolutely like AMD processors but they aren't as advanced as you say. However, according to the latest scuttle butt, that might well change with AMD's next line of CPUs. I even read today they might be putting out low cost 3 core CPUs.

As far as my E4400 running at 50C idle in CT 095, that would pretty much have to be an adjusted normal temp. Either that or the program is buggy or these Core2Duos aren't as energy efficient as everyone thinks because there is nothing wrong with the HS seating nor case ventilation. The case ventilation may not be the best but it is nowhere near that bad. Besides all That, I've had various HSs on and off and if there were a seating issue you'd think it would at least accidentally be corrected by now. Not to mention this would be the only PC out of the numerous PCs I have that would be exibitting such problems with HS seating.

I know without a doubt that either the program is buggy or the 50C temp is absolutely a normal, maybe even below normal, temp.

[PP Mguire]

I absolutely like AMD processors but they aren't as advanced as you say. However, according to the latest scuttle butt, that might well change with AMD's next line of CPUs. I even read today they might be putting out low cost 3 core CPUs.Im the same way. Im really hoping the Phenoms pwn all beacsue im just dieing to upgrade to AM3 and DDR3. (Skipped AM2 and DDR2 altogether)

[lewislink]

Well, what I remeber isn't much as far as what was said, but what impressed me enough to stick with were some supposed benchmarks being done...I think by AMD...that the results were so impressive that the new AMD CPUs would knock Intel for a loop.

There was forum speculation that if what was being reported were actually true of these new CPUs, AMD would take the lead.

[PP Mguire]

Its always a back and forth syndrome so theres no telling.

[lewislink]

It certainly would be nice to see AMD take the lead, now. It certainly would be good for the consumer because they both need to be fiscally healthy so they can compete. Competition is always good for the consumer. AMD is kinda in a quandary right now. There seems to be a lot of speculation of AMD's continued existence. I don't want to see them go south, that's why I'd like to them on top for a while.

[PP Mguire]

People always think that when AMD goes down. If Intel still beats them out im still buying an AM3 setup cause its going to be cheap.

[=CDU=Above]

Didn't want to spring for the full copper one huh?

Me either. I've had that exact heatsink this box for about 4 years now. Not a problem with it yet. It likes the dust though and it's not the easiest to clean.