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westy87

10-03-2007, 03:47 PM

OK well, summer is here and with my new OC and folding running most of the day, my cpu has crept up from load of 42 to about 65. The Artic Freezer pro just isnt cutting it anymore. So, I'm wondering what you think the best air cooler would be for me. My mobo is all passive, neither the NB or SB have fans, just the heatpipe solution. I've searched all the other threads I could find on HSF's, but havn't come to my own conclusion. Basically, I was looking at a tower cooler, but then I though about the chipset/mosfets. The cooler I have has some fins pointed towards the mosfets to cool those. Price not an issue, I havn't seen any coolers over $100Au yet except water cooling. Also, please suggest a good fan, noise also not n issue really

Cheers!

sushrukh

10-03-2007, 03:52 PM

As you have said that price isn't a issue for you,then look no other than the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme (http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_support_installation_u120_extreme.htm) CPU cooler with the 120mm fan compatibility.

It's the best CPU air cooler, your money can buy.Attach a Noctua or Scythe 120mm fan with it & voila ! :smile:

westy87

10-03-2007, 04:05 PM

omg i went to squish that stupid bug again!

but thanks sush. Will it cool my mosfets at all? Though, My case is pretty large and I have a few fans going through it, the case airflow might suffice

sushrukh

10-03-2007, 04:23 PM

You need to make sure that you don't have too many peripherals or fans near it.I mean just a 120mm fan on the heatsink & a rear case fan exhausting the hot air will do.

The measurements of this cooler if you need :- http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/images/u120_extreme_install/Ultra-120-ex-size.jpg

This is what it should look after you get it installed.

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3540/install12oz4hz5.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8660/img1282fg5.jpg

Scythe Fans specification comparison :- http://www.scythe-usa.com/support/support_temp/002/fan_spec.html

timberwolf120

10-03-2007, 07:11 PM

I think your chipsets and mosfets should be fine with the airflow from the case fans.

werty316

10-03-2007, 07:17 PM

The Ultra-120 is the as good as they come as far as air coolers.

Just keep in mind about mounting issues and space around the cooler.

raidersforever01

10-03-2007, 09:39 PM

That bug tricked me i saw it as i was clicking a link so i was WTH when it disappeared then noticed it was just sush's avatar.

I also Say the Ultra 120, the only thing is watch out sometimes you can get a bad one that performs just like stock cooling. The first one i got worked like **** it only let me hit 2.8Ghz before getting to hot but the one i have now let me hit 3.6ghz. I have also heard of it happening to many other people.

sushrukh

10-03-2007, 09:43 PM

There you have it Westy from the horse's mouth.Oops, sorry from Raider's mouth. :lol:

werty316

10-03-2007, 10:14 PM

The reason for that was quite a few of them had a concave base which isn't the best for optimal contact between the CPU and heatsink.

raidersforever01

10-03-2007, 10:29 PM

Iv'e heard of bad soldering of the heat pipes to. I lap all my heatsinks and the cpu. After the lap it barely did anything to the temps so i sold it to my buddy since all he cares about is silence everything is passive. But i think i was just unlucky its actually the only bad thing i have ever gotten and i order thousands of dollars of stuff every month. No wait the 400w Antec SP sucked never again will i order that sticking to FSP for low cost PSU.

westy87

10-04-2007, 03:06 AM

Thanks guys. And for the fans? Or does every one recomend the scyths

timberwolf120

10-04-2007, 03:21 AM

Yeah, I would recommend the Scythe S-Flex fans. Pick the one that makes as much noise as you can handle.

westy87

10-04-2007, 04:15 AM

OK, and, this is where I will most likely be getting my part from

http://pcmaniacs.com.au/index.php?cPath=137_138

unless you guys know of any good US sites that ship to australia? Cause we are up arounf 85c per US dollar, highest its been in ages so it might be worth my while getting something from the states.

But yeh, why would the zalmans cost more than the ultra-120? Is it because they have a fan included?

raidersforever01

10-04-2007, 04:31 AM

Yup Canada passed up the not so mighty Dollar anymore so everyone is having fun getting stuff from the U.S. for less.

sushrukh

10-04-2007, 12:31 PM

You can also go to this website Westy for your purchase.They bundle a Scythe 120mm Blue LED fan(with controller) with the Ultra 120 Extreme.The total package costs $99 including GST within Australia.This site is based in Australia.I think, if you purchase this,you'll have to pay less (because this is a bundle offer) than buying the cooler & the fan separately.

Link :- http://pccasegear.com/prod4260.htm

the_dope_chaud

10-04-2007, 02:11 PM

there is alson the scythe mine which is pretty good

westy87

10-04-2007, 03:39 PM

Ahh a combo would be good, thanks for that. Ill check up what u mean with the scythe mine now...

sushrukh

10-04-2007, 03:47 PM

The Scythe Mine is actually the CPU cooler made by Scythe.

Link :- http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/023/scmn1000_detail.html

Keep in mind,that it supports only 100mm fans which are rare to find.You can't attach a 120mm fan on it. ;-)

westy87

10-04-2007, 04:13 PM

Hmm how does this compare to the ultra-120 extreme?

Thermalright SI-128 SE

sushrukh

10-04-2007, 04:34 PM

All the TR coolers are great (Si,120,Si 128,XP 90,XP 120) while the Ultra 120 being the best in air cooling till date.

You can see these two charts.Si 128 SE isn't present here but other good/great coolers are.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/thermalright%20ultra%20120%20plus_030507110346/14162.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/thermalright%20ultra%20120%20plus_030507110346/14161.png

The main thing is that,if you can sacrifice a bit of performance spending a little less money then go with the SI 128 or the XP 120 with a Scythe S-Flex-F fan (model number SFF21F) or if you can spend more to get the best performance,then get the same fan with the Ultra 120 Extreme ( or grab that combo offer).

Be sure about the " Extreme " part because there is a non-extreme version also.The Extreme version has " Six " heatpipes,where the non-extreme version has " Four ".And get that Scythe fan for high airflow with lower noice because of the Sony's S-FDB Bearing.

The fan has below spec.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5438/33035636zl1.jpg

westy87

10-04-2007, 04:55 PM

Ye I think I will get that combo. I was just curious bout the 128 though cause its actually more expensive most places I look.

sushrukh

10-04-2007, 05:34 PM

Best of luck.Keep us updated. :)

westy87

10-04-2007, 05:37 PM

sushrukh

10-04-2007, 05:46 PM

Yep the Delta fans are superb.220cfm is awesome.I think, you may have seen that you can also buy the Ultra 120 Extreme without the fan at $ 79.00 (inc GST within Australia).

Here is the link for only the heatsink :- http://pccasegear.com/prod4119.htm

So,Ultra 120 Extreme with a Delta 220 CFM fan means you'll not be wanting anything more but those Delta fans should come with a controller so that you can manage to get those fans spin at a reduced speed for a bit more silence if needed.Not a must though.

timberwolf120

10-04-2007, 06:55 PM

Unless you like the sound of a fan, going with a Delta fan that does 220 cfm is a waste. Even if you put a fan controller on it and crank it down, you might as well just get a regular fan that runs at that rpm.

I have a Silverstone fan that does 100+ cfm @ 2400 rpm (according to the specs on their website). According to the Nvidia MonitorView, I have it slowed down to about 1200 rpm. The temperature doesn't get any lower when I put it on full blast.

raidersforever01

10-04-2007, 07:26 PM

It's funny cause a mate of mine was gonna get the new maxorb, which got me thinking about a new cooler. Then he realised the maxorb will be touching one of his DIMMS, so now he is going to go the ultra-120 extreme/scyth combo as well, but not the LED fan.

We found some delta fan that does 220cfm at 65dba! lol

I was tempted to get a Delta fan since noise is really not an issue for me but at the last minute i changed my mind about getting it and from what timberwolf120 said it was the right decision.

sushrukh

10-04-2007, 07:34 PM

Ya, a 60+ CFM fan will be more than adequate with that heatsink but it's Westy's decision.Westy don't do a regret after making a decision.I've also seen that more CFM doesn't always mean more cooling.Yes,they have more potential but there's a limit to how much a CPU can be cooled by using a specific heatsink & fan & when you can achieve the limit,your CPU will not cool down more even if you use a double CFM fan than previous.The temps will remain same but the noise will increase.

Ranzear

10-05-2007, 12:13 AM

How about a 76mm Rotron 400hz AC fan, made for aircraft radio stacks.

Its damn loud, the inverter you'd need would be damn loud, but you'd have roughly 400cfm at 10,000 RPM. The damn thing puts out thrust!

werty316

10-05-2007, 12:24 AM

Another great air cooler is Enzotech's Ultra-X.

http://www.enzotechnology.com/ultra_x.htm

westy87

10-05-2007, 06:03 AM

Hmm, hows the performance on that one? Sorry I dont really have time to find reviews right now I'm getting ready for my Air Force application

timberwolf120

10-05-2007, 08:02 PM

The EnzoTech gets killed by the Thermalright.
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/enzotech%20ultrax_06270770619/14955.png

EDIT:
Sorry for so many edits, picture wouldn't display... Hopefully it works now.

By the way, good luck on your Air Force application!

bobletman

10-23-2007, 04:03 AM

a really good cpu cooler is the Zalman CNPS9500 LED CPU Cooler. It is insanely quiet and i cools so amazingly well. Here is a link to a pic of this fan. http://www.cooltechpc.com/ctpc/images/CNPS9500.jpg

westy87

10-23-2007, 04:15 PM

Just curious, would I get the same kinda performance from a simple water cooler such as this?

http://pccasegear.com/prod4234.htm

or this?

http://pccasegear.com/prod3062.htm

werty316

10-23-2007, 08:44 PM

Scrap the first but the TT 745 is ok but you'd be better off getting a highend air cooler.

Sadasius

10-23-2007, 10:29 PM

Personally I would not get any of the tower coolers. They are damn efficient at cooling the CPU but very poor on cooling anything else. I would go for the Thermaltake MaxOrb. It will cool your CPU efficiently as well as everything else around your CPU and for less money.

http://hwtech.ru/img/pics/reviews/cool/18/foto/thermaltake_maxorb_pic18_b.jpg

darkorb

10-23-2007, 10:32 PM

I dunno, SUSH's maxorb doesnt seem to be cooling to well.

If your scared about heat in ur pc, just get one that blows it out the back like the Zalman's do.

sushrukh

10-23-2007, 10:51 PM

I have Blueorb Dark,not Maxorb.Maxorb is kinda better than Blueorb but i'll still prefer the TR coolers.Westy can also buy the TR 128SE or the XP120.They are great coolers & you'll not have to pay a premium for them.Don't go for any low-end water cooler Westy.Rather invest in a high-end air cooler.

werty316

10-24-2007, 12:58 AM

Just because a HSF is a tower style cooler doesn't mean its inefficient as the Thermalright Ultra-120 is if not the best air cooler.

westy87

10-24-2007, 05:27 AM

Ye I'll just go the TR Ultra-120 extreme then. Gonna grab the deal with the scythe LED flex fan from pccasegear. Spose I should buy some paste too. Time to check out that review :)

sushrukh

10-24-2007, 05:36 AM

Best of luck for your purchase.We want some pics too. :)

For the paste, you can grab the Ceramique from here :- http://www.pccasegear.com/prod2970.htm for $8

or the AS5 from here :- http://www.pccasegear.com/prod2173.htm for $9.90

westy87

10-24-2007, 06:03 AM

Ye Ive purchased the paste/cleaner combo as well as the hsf.fan combo :)

Arctic Silver 5 and ArctiClean Combo
Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme with Scythe 120mm

sushrukh

10-24-2007, 06:07 AM

Keep us updated then how it performs (though we know it's the best). :)

westy87

10-24-2007, 06:10 AM

Ye sure will. Now I just need a mobo that can overclock lorfl.

Acidtears33

10-24-2007, 03:32 PM

I am sure you already know about the 120-Ex westy. But just in case, make sure you check the base for flatness. They have a tendancy to be convex and need a good lapping for optimum performance.

westy87

10-24-2007, 05:03 PM

Thanks for heads-up acid but yeh, read all the reviews n seen a few examples. Just hope that if mine isn't flat that I'll be able to tell before I put it in and get crap temps

westy87

10-30-2007, 05:40 AM

YE just installed my new Thermaltrite ultra-120 eXtreme! Temps are looking good so far, gotta burn in my arctic silver 5 paste though to get best temps. Bring on 12 hour stress test! I havnt got a camera so you can all imagine my sexy sexy PC with 2 LED 120mm fans and a UV light with silver UV reactive round IDE cable. GOnne be rodering in UV reactive molex connectors, cable covers and sata cables soon

'Amp!'

10-30-2007, 02:36 PM

A.S. 5 !!!

Did you not read my thermal paste roundup you silly rabbit!?!

A.S. Ceramique will give you upwards of a 3 degree lower temps at OC speeds. Tsk tsk tsk.

All that work and Westy betrays me. BETRAYS MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

I'm gonna go cry in the corner.

raidersforever01

10-30-2007, 02:58 PM

werty316

10-30-2007, 07:41 PM

A.S. Ceramique is better for OCing.

I concur.

westy87

10-31-2007, 10:49 AM

Aww I read your review and from the looks of it there wasnt that much difference :( Just call me stupid. Pn a brighter note a certain company not to be mentioned just sent me the exact same package I received 2 days ago...So now I have 2 copies of the ultra-120 eXtreme with the thermal paste and paste cleaning stuff, as well as another scyth fan and Vista ultimate 64 bit... $350Au worth of stuff for free! lol sum 1 at the compay stuffed up big time. Ill leave it packed up for a week if no 1 rings to ask for it back I'll prob sell on eBay lol