HD2950pro, impressive.

[PP Mguire]

If everything works out, score one for the Christmas colors.:keepfolding:

Hmm swish 2900pro and i see 2950pro LOL

http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php?/gpu_displays/amd_rv670_hd_2950_pro_specifications_and_pictures_ leaked/1

Check it out.

[timberwolf120]

So I guess you aren't getting the 2900pro anymore. lol

That looks really cool. I like the single slot cooler. That copper part on the end of the cooler looks interesting. I wonder if that is 1 single piece of copper. Supposed to be better for cooling. I read about a company that did that (Enzotech?) a while back.

[PP Mguire]

I like ti beacsue it has only 1 6pin connector, is faster than the 2900XT, uses 2.4ghz GDDR4, has a single slot cooler, uses less energy, less heat, i bet it whoops the GTX, ect ect.

[Sadasius]

I would prefer a much bigger cooler on this thing. The small single slot coolers have often given me much grief in the past especially if you have the need to overclock. I hate it when a company cheaps out on the cooler. It really pisses me off to no end. If it performs awesome then it should be cooled awesome as well. Not anything half ass. Well that's my rant...especially to companies who are looking at this....DON'T BE CHEAP!!! Customers remember....

[PP Mguire]

There are more customers in the market like me who dont want the extreme vantec tornado loudness from the other ATI coolers on the 2900 series. Thats why when i saw this my mind was changed completely. Trust me i like big coolers, but not with a big noise to go with it. Besides, this one is on a smaller die so it dosent need that massive of a thing. AND if i really wanted to (extremely doubt it) i could X-Fire even on my motherboard with these cards.

[timberwolf120]

I would prefer a much bigger cooler on this thing. The small single slot coolers have often given me much grief in the past especially if you have the need to overclock. I hate it when a company cheaps out on the cooler. It really pisses me off to no end. If it performs awesome then it should be cooled awesome as well. Not anything half ass. Well that's my rant...especially to companies who are looking at this....DON'T BE CHEAP!!! Customers remember....


I'm sure cooling companies like Thermalright will come out with an aftermarket cooler for you so you can replace it.

But if it cools well with the stock cooler, I would be very happy. Nice to start seeing cards that are more efficient, require less power, and less cooling.

[Sadasius]

Well I have owned single slot cards that was just as loud as the double slot coolers. The performance difference however is very different. This card may not need massive cooling for the die itself but I am sure if you factor in all those ram chips that are going to run pretty hot will actually add to the die temperature. Not to mention this design also blows all the heat back into your case which makes everything else go up as well if you do not have sufficient air flow. Can you imagine how much heat those DDR4 chips are going to throw into your case? I can say this. Your plugs are going to get pretty damn hot.

I think for this card, aftermarket cooling will almost be a must.

[PP Mguire]

Actualy the GDDR4 chips are believed to run cooler, as thats why they can withstand the higher clock frequencies. I really doubt this thing will put out as much heat as an HD2900XT even overclocked. And like was said, if you want one that bad you can always buy a 2900 and bench against my HD2950PRO :D

[Sadasius]

What would the price be for this card or estimated to be?

EDIT!

Actualy the GDDR4 chips are believed to run cooler, as thats why they can withstand the higher clock frequencies. I really doubt this thing will put out as much heat as an HD2900XT even overclocked. And like was said, if you want one that bad you can always buy a 2900 and bench against my HD2950PRO :D

Won't be much of a competition if your card burns up during benchmarking...lol I am going to look into DDR4 and their heat dissipation first to be certain though. If they actually do run cooler then maybe it will not be a problem.

[Sadasius]

Cannot seem to find any facts on GDDR4 except their clock speeds. There is a lot of hype in forums and such but I don't honestly take them as fact. But a cooler similar to the one for this card is on the HD 2600XT and it seems they have separated the cooler for the GPU and the ram. So ram heating up the GPU may not actually be an issue if it is kept within that design.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_2600_XT/images/cooler3.jpg

[Sadasius]

Well I have found an estimated price range...$229 to $299. Source. (http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-3429-view-Radeon-HD-2950-Pro.html)

[raidersforever01]

Man this card looks good. I am to poor for that is there plans for a 2950gt

[Sadasius]

Well on a few forums one part that keeps coming up with this card is OC stability due to one power connector. They seem to think it would be too unstable if it is OC'ed and needs extra juice. I don't know myself but if it is using less power to begin with I really don't see that as an issue and would think it would simply draw what it needs to. Or am I wrong with this line of thought. Never owned a card that needed two power connectors so I cannot really speak about it.

[raidersforever01]

Don't quote me on this but i think the pcie gives you 75w and the power connector gives you another 75w or something like that so more connections more power but i can't help but feel i am wrong somewhere in my simple explanation.

[Xero (1)ne]

Well if it needs a smaller cooler to keep it cool then one would assume that it doesn't need as much power. I think the OC instability is due to it being such a new card. Once they get the card more refined it should be better clocking.

I'm really happy to see AMD pull something out of their hat for video. We don't want Intel to rule the world do we? :ahhhhh:

[Schwarz]

We`ll just have to wait for the benchmarks in my opinion.
But it looks promising.

[PP Mguire]

That price for this awesome card, runs cooler, is faster, single slot cooler, and uses less power. This is like the new Holy Grail for AMD if they pull it through and its all that and a bag of Doritos like it looks.

[timberwolf120]

Don't quote me on this but i think the pcie gives you 75w and the power connector gives you another 75w or something like that so more connections more power but i can't help but feel i am wrong somewhere in my simple explanation.

Doesn't PCI 2.0 increase the power a little bit more? I thought I heard that a little bit more power can be fed through the PCI-e slot.

[PP Mguire]

I believe it increases it to 120w.

[timberwolf120]

So where would the PCI-e 2.0 slot get the extra power to supply to the graphics card? The 8-pin power connector on the motherboard? Or from somewhere else? I saw 4 pin molex connectors on a few motherboards, which I believer were on the 680i ones.

[PP Mguire]

I think a little extra searching will tell you that actualy. I havent exactly looked to deeply into PCI-E2.0

[raidersforever01]

Doesn't PCI 2.0 increase the power a little bit more? I thought I heard that a little bit more power can be fed through the PCI-e slot.

Thats right I forgot about that I am not sure how much more it increases power though.

[PP Mguire]

My bad, its 150w instead.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/05/22/pcie_2_to_arrive_by_christmas/1

[werty316]

What, not waiting for the 9800Ultra anymore PP? :dielaffin:

I think I'll wait for some benchmark results before deciding as the HD2900XT was suppose to be kickass based on its specs and we all know how that went.

[PP Mguire]

Not after all the crap Nvidia is doing, its rediculous. It all depends though cause the benchies show the 2900pro right up on the XT and so that would put the 2950pro above the XT and has OC ability.

But, it depends.

[Sadasius]

It will be interesting to see what the benchmarks will be. Also I would like to see how Nvidia responds back to it....lol

[werty316]

Not after all the crap Nvidia is doing, its rediculous. It all depends though cause the benchies show the 2900pro right up on the XT and so that would put the 2950pro above the XT and has OC ability.

But, it depends.
Well nVidia has not reason to release a new highend card since ATI won't until next year. Its like fighting a battle with no opponents.

I just hope the HD2950Pro can bring some life worth-while to the HD29xx series.

[sushrukh]

HD 2900 pro is already delivering quite good results.At half the price,you are actually getting an lower clocked XT which can get OC'ed & perform like XT at only $249.HD2950 Pro will no doubt be better than the XT & the 2900Pro & will be coming with all the new standards like PCI-E 2.0,DX 10.1 etc.It's bound to work great & the most important thing is that it's also less power hungry,requires only 1 PCI-E power connector & is a single slot cooler.(according to the leaked details).

[PP Mguire]

All those have been what ive been saying which is exactly why i want one. I love big heatsinks but i really dont feel like messing with a dual slot cooler anymore. I like having room in my case.

[darkorb]

its 'less' power hungry because the PCI-E 2.0 supplies more power to it, thats why it has 1 pci-e connector

[PP Mguire]

Thats actualy kinda irrelavent right now. By power hungry we mean the chip itself. Its on a smaller die and requires less power and it produces less heat as well.