New Overclock

[Miker]

I have over clocked a good bit and the Temps haven't gone up at all... It is weird. I am going up a little each day to make sure I test it out. I don't touch the voltage, to scared to fry my $1,300 processor. Once I get my Processor to 900FSB I stop, then work on the Ram.
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[Frag Maniac]

Congrats, but you have to admit it's a bit funny that you're using a $1,300 processor yet posting a pic of the results jotted down on paper rather than a shot of something like a FutureMark data window.

[Miker]

I payed $250 for it last month! lol! $1,300 new 4 years ago. I am cheap. Um, CPU-z, that is free!!

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[raidersforever01]

Whats wrong with jotting stuff down on paper. Thats the way i like to do it who needs CPU-Z and and screenshots. The only difference is i just write a bunch of numbers down and no one knows what the heck anything means except me. My disorganization is my organization.

[Miker]

I tried to make it organized for people, so everyone can understand it. :grin:

[Miker]

That 1.4GHz over clock made a huge difference in Bioshock. It was running so smooth at 1280x1024 max, before it would jump a little. Full load CPU gets to 57 max, same as unclocked... That is really good considering gow hot P4s run.

What would be better, a dual core processor at 1000ish FSB @ 2GHz or a single core processor at 1000ish FSB @ 4GHz? Remember right now dual/quads cores share the FSB.

[bobletman]

Thats a pretty nice OC. Hmm I remember playing bioshock, its not that fun it gets to repetitive.

[Miker]

I go up 3-5clock a day just to give a full day to test it out. I want to get to around 900FSB and 3.8GHz or so...

I have seen this processor and Mobo combo before get to 4GHz on air at stock volts.

On chilled with Volts up you can get close to 6GHz, why people buy an Intel Extreme.

[westy87]

My mate just got his 3.4ghz PD to 4ghz lol, and he keeps rubbin it in my face that I cant get my c2d to 4, but then I made him run superpi and 3dmark06...smashed his scores :D

[Miker]

Running at 3.7GHz 873FSB on stock volts still.

[bobletman]

wow impressive, what cooler are you using.

[Miker]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118113

Temps are the same as when the processor was 0.3GHz less... I really don't know if it is the cooler or the Extreme Intel processor...

[bobletman]

Thats a pretty decent cpu cooler, im using the zalman 9700 that thing cools so well.

[Miker]

Yaa I love that styling with the curvyness of the pipes. But I am a fan of pure copper, and I hate heatpipes.

[bobletman]

Lol when I get a little more time im making a CPU fan from just pennies and a 120 mm fan.

[Miker]

Make sure you use old ones, that are pure copper... :help:

[werty316]

Why would you prefer a solid copper block when heatpipes provide more efficient cooling?

[Miker]

My old one had 6 heatpipes... and my Idle heat went down 7*c with the new heatsink with no heatpipes.

(It had a fan on it I took off before I scraped it.
http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o81/mikerider123/?action=view&current=DSCN2463.jpg

[tyle6]

the new ones a solid copper too
just a nice polished aluminium plating on them. it doesn't really make a diff. and yea ever seen the polish on the bottom of the new 110's??? :) ill snap a pick, LOL literly if the cameras at the right angle you get an infinite mirroring.!!! lol
I dont know why zalman didn't spring for a pure silver coating for the price they charge for the buggers!!
nice Oc though, what are you running to test stability right now?

[Miker]

Every day I up the clock by around 5, then play my regular games + Bioshock Demo to really stress it. My regular games would be CSS, TF2 and BF2, plus maybe FarCry or Doom3.

Also like to do 2 * 2 = just to make sure I get 4. >_<

*Edit* BioShock Demo at 1280x1024 runs at everything High and you never see a jump.

[darkorb]

well yea miker that old one u had was a bigger POS

my friend has his 3.4ghz PD 940 to 4.6ghz just to test, but back at 4 now

[Miker]

If you would read, you would see I am going up .1Ghz I day just to stress test it for a day... I am trying to get to 4GHz/950FSB on air. No need to call my OC a POS.

A "3.4ghz PD 940" is not a socket 478 processor, or a Extreme Edition, a P4 or even a single core processor for that matter.

If you had a $1,300 processor you would go up slowly to make sure it doesn't blow.

That is like comparing a 2008 Twin-Turbo Corvette to a 20 year old Mugen Honda.
(Twin-Turbo = Water Cooled)
Dude! I got my Vette to 900HP! You should tune your POS 20 year old Honda to 900HP!

[werty316]

Whether you do your overclock in small steps or large bounds, it doesn't really mater as you really won't "blow" it.

[darkorb]

Miker sorry if u read that incorrectly, or maybe i didnt post it properly, i was calling ur old heatsink a POS , not ur OC ;)

[tyle6]

the P4 will not blow dude!!! ive seen mobos literly go up in smoke with a P4 in the socket. pull it out and it boots right up in another board.
I would highly reccomend running ORTHOS stres prime. or maybe some OCCT to stress the CPU and test stability truely.
As for being a 1300 CPU. its not. that like me saying my e6600 is a 500 dollar CPU as thats what i payed for it when it firsted dropped.
its a 150- CPU now. just like your REALLY old P4.
My lil sister Oc's on a P 524
It is a single core CPU it is socket 775 but it runs a 533mhz FSB. I can take it to over 4 ghz and over an 800mhz FSB. on stock cooling pretty much.
Right now i need a volt mod for that board:frown:

[Miker]

Miker sorry if u read that incorrectly, or maybe i didnt post it properly, i was calling ur old heatsink a POS , not ur OC ;)

O! Lol.

People still sell Retail-New 3.4GHz Extremes for over $1000... They are just rare I guess. Price-Grabber it.

I will try "ORTHOS stres prime". Thanks.

It might not blow... But I really don't want to ever smell a burning $1000 Bill.

[tyle6]

You should smell the mobo burn up wayyy before the CPU!!! (not that its gonne) The cpu would actually shut itself down at a certain temp would it not?

[darkorb]

yea what stress program u use miker?

Orthos for 8 hours, or OCCT for 30 mins/1hour is the best way

[Miker]

You should smell the mobo burn up wayyy before the CPU!!! (not that its gonne) The cpu would actually shut itself down at a certain temp would it not?

I have it set to warn me at 65, 67 is max PCU temp Intel tells me. I don't have "Shut Down" enabled.

Trying OCCT right now.

[tyle6]

I always thought P4's had a thermal thottle in the die?? i know my P4 will shutdown no matter what when it overheats. boards not set to or nothing in BIOS. but i have had the fan fail once and the CPU just refused to stay on overheated.

[Miker]

OCCT crashed, is that bad? XD

The Temp never got over 60...

[tyle6]

you have probably reached you highest stable overclock on stock volatges.
try upping the Vcore a tiny amount to stabilize!!

[werty316]

Does it just crash when you open it or does it crash when you stress test it? If it crashes and prime95/Orthos doesn't it could be unrelated.

[Miker]

Crashes after around 3 minutes "Crashed" is written on the top of OCCT window.

[Miker]

Type: Blend - stress CPU and RAM Min: 8 Max: 4096 InPlace: No Mem: 767 Time: 15
CPU: 3712MHz FSB: 218MHz [218MHz x 17.0 est.]
CPU: 3712MHz FSB: 218MHz [218MHz x 17.0 est.]
11/19/2007 2:53 PM
Launching 2 threads...
1:Using CPU #0
2:Using CPU #1
1:Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
2:Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
1:Press Stop to end this test.
2:Press Stop to end this test.
1:Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length.
2:Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length.
1:FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
1:Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
1:Torture Test ran 2 minutes 9 seconds - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
1:Execution halted.

2:Torture Test ran 2 minutes 9 seconds - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
2:Execution halted.

[darkorb]

that just means that its not stable.

[tyle6]

either you need more volatge on the CPU or maybe your ram.
not sure what one. but MEMTEST rocks too man. make a bootable CD and keep it around. its going to be one of your new gods.
I would up the Vcore .1V and see if that helps
keep moving in .1V increments till your stable.
You have a top of the line CPU cooler. its not gonna overheat too easily miker. the NB on your board i figure would go first with the speeds on your FSB.

[darkorb]

that 7000 is pretty old, and not top of the line tyle6

60 load is getting pretty high for me

[tyle6]

its a zalman. its top of the line. LOL as for the its being a couple years old. so is the CPU.
60 on a P4 really aint that bad.
btw what is this CPU a presscott?

[Miker]

60 on a P4 is nothing, they are one of the hottest processors ever made.

It is a "Gallatin" core, Intel made a special core just for the Extreme.

The volts drop a little so if I up them they might run just right. When my dad is home I am going to see if there is a test point on my MoBo and fluke the volts to make sure it is giving me a good reading.

*Edit* You mean a ram test boot CD? Also, I have top of the line XMS Ram, I don't think I will have a ram issue.

[Miker]

Right now volts is set to 5.550, Intel tells you 5.575, next highest in BIOS is 5.750.

CPU-Z is telling me 5.533 - 5.574.

[tyle6]

yea ram test boot CD. i have top of the line ram too!! mushkin xp2-8500 2x1gb kit!!! that **** pwns.
anyways timings and voltage can get a lil off and so can freq. when OCing. i like to always test it too just to rule it out and keep my mind clear.
also, you can get tighter timing outta that XMS 3-3-3-8 is what i run value DDR400 at!!!
you should be able to get 2.5-3-3-6 outta them and you will notice it when thiiings load even more then a CPU OC.
1T timing baby. 1T timing baby.
unfortunatly due to heat i am running 2T right now.:frown:
but i can get 3-3-3-9 outta these stick stable at 1T. just with the volts it takes they would burn up in a matter of hours well gaming.
also never foget about good ole' Vdroop.

[Miker]

5.75 v-core is to high for me, I just leave it be. 3.6GHz is good enough. And for X-mas I get 2G of lower lat ram so I play with ram then.

*Edit* BIOS goes up in .250v, but the windows OC menu from ABIT goes up in .025, so I can do it!

[tyle6]

is the "max" intel reccomends for use at stock speeds or is that there OCing guideline?
intel tells me to not go over 1.35v on my core2dou. but to get the speeds i want i push it too 1.4 i know all the way up to 1.525 is safe.

[Miker]

5.575 is Intel spec.

[tyle6]

i feel pretty safe saying your OK to go over that volatge. dont hold me to that. have you googled to see what some other people have pushed these CPUS too voltagewise?
You should find out what the MAX voltage one of these can take. and the MAX you feel comfortable with on air.

[Miker]

People say 5.75 on air... But I wouldn't go over 5.6

School now when I get home I set volts at 1.575 from 1.550 at 3.7GHz, then maybe 1.6

[darkorb]

its 1. not 5. 5. u will break ur CPU in an instance

[tyle6]

i was wounding about that one!!! LOLOL!! i was like huh 5.v? wtf? whatever. LOL
aslong as you know what your volts should be LOL

[Miker]

1.5... 5.5... All the same! Lol... Not even a option for 5.5...

[darkorb]

even at 2v ur cpu is done very quickly

[Miker]

honest typo... I got a lot on my mind, going to see my GF tomorrow for almost a week!

[Miker]

Anyone have a good Temp monitoring program?

I set volts at 1.575, what it should be from 1.550... Temps went up a tad... My Mobo puts out 1.533-1.566-1.574-1.588-1.601 spikes when it is set at 1.575, that is a big +/-. It is usually 1.566 or 1.588, once a minute gets to 1.601 or 1.533 for a split second. Is that acceptable?

[tyle6]

Im not sure on the power spikes. i would relate that to the PSU though not the mobo...
anyways i use everest ultimate edition. ultimate though not home. home wont read all the sensors.

[Miker]

I am really overvolting the Mobo... Extremes to start with run at like .2 higher V-core...

[Miker]

"Illegal Sumout"... Using ORTHOS. :-/

Back to old volts and 3.6GHz I guess...

[darkorb]

use coretemp for temps, or everest

the fluctuation is vdroop. its veyr common

[tyle6]

Vdroop is the drop in rated current. I.E. settin 1.575 and the actual voltage being 1.545.
My motherboard being a refurb suffers from this pretty bad. i have like in the example a .03V droop. what you are seeing is current fluctuation caused by other loads on the circuit. like i said its not the mobo so much i dont thnk as the power supply or the wall current itself. i run all my rigs threw surge supressors with EMI and RFI noise filters as the wiring in my house is not "clean". other loads on the same line can throw noise back onto the line aswell as cause the power levels to fluctuat somewhat.

[darkorb]

mine is set to 1.5 in bios, but 1.55 in windows