9 series rip off

[Goliath182]

I dont know if anyone else feels the same way but after looking at the stats for the 9800 GTX im less than imporessed. Looks to me like a 8800 Ultra could smoke it especaly in high res with the GTXs 70.4 Gig bandwidth. Seems like there doing what ATI is doing in having the 2900 as the best single card and haveing a dual GPU card be the best performer. If you look at the 3750 and above there pretty much all mid range cards. And the 9600 GT is getting advertized as a god of a card. Looks like unless they make a 9900 the Ultra will remain the single GPU king.

['Amp!']

I would wait to see the real thing my friend.

Remember the 9600GT has far fewer SP's than the 8800GT yet performs VERY close to it.

Likewise is a 3.0GHz C2D CRAP because it is "slower" than a 3.4 GHz PIV??

I have a feeling NVIDIA did some tweaking inside there and made a beast of a GPU.

Heck look at SLI scaling with the 9600GT. It is anywhere from 85-90% ! That is unheard of!

[AJ.]

Somehow I have a feeling that ATI will have that performance crown sooner than we think. They're already winning the "bang for your buck" war.

[Goliath182]

Somehow I have a feeling that ATI will have that performance crown sooner than we think. They're already winning the "bang for your buck" war.

I dont know about ATI becomeing king again. I think there gonna have to get away from AMD to do that.

But still with only 70.4 Gig bandwidth i dont know if it can keep up. At least the 9600 GT has close to the same bandwidth. Theres no doubt that Nvidia fixed SLI and made it work a ton better but I know a lot of people dont want two cards and that seems to be what Nvidia is trying to push on people.

[werty316]

One reason why the 9800GTX appears to look unimpressive is because its not nVidia's flagship card.

I would take everything you read/see with a grain of salt until its actually out plus I don't really care for a 3dmark score when basing a video cards performance.

[bobletman]

Werty is right just wait till nvidia comes out with there GX2 to come out. Its supposed to be the flagship card from what I hear.

[Goliath182]

Werty is right just wait till nvidia comes out with there GX2 to come out. Its supposed to be the flagship card from what I hear.

Well hopefully it does better than the last GX2. ATI has made a dual GPU card there flagship card with the 3870 X2 so Nividia may be able to pull it off.

[werty316]

nVidia has to pull it off or they'll loose this round.

[Goliath182]

nVidia has to pull it off or they'll loose this round.

:( Thats the last thing i want. Cant have my ATI loving uncle having a better card than me :-x

[werty316]

Just take a hammer to his ATI card and he won't :biggrin:

[Goliath182]

Lol hed kill me if i hammered his 3870. And then id have to pay for that ATI junk =(. Long live Intel/Nvidia!!!

[bobletman]

Lol hed kill me if i hammered his 3870. And then id have to pay for that ATI junk =(. Long live Intel/Nvidia!!!

I AGREE. LOVE LIVE THE INTEL/NVIDIA!!!!!!!!!!!

[Methious]

Nvidia not only has a hardware advantage, they pay developer's to optimize their games for Nvidia. Think about it, your developing a game laying out mega cash to get it right and here comes Nvidia with a wad of cash to optimize the game for their GPU, and will lend a hand helping get it optimized. Heck yea your gonna take the money.

That and personally I think the drivers and support for Nvidia based cards are just better.

[Goliath182]

I will say that my uncle has gotten much better overclocks on ATI cards than i can on Nvidias.

[PP Mguire]

Just because the clocks are higher dosent mean nothing. And, i bet the 9800GTX will take out the 9800GX2 and HD3870X2. Just a hunch, because Nvidia always wins now.

[jreegs]

From what I've seen in reviews, the 9600GT can hold its own as a midrange card especially in the case of DX10 games. It also has a lower power consumption than the the 8600GTS as well as the ATI cards in the same class. With Nvidia optimizing SLI it looks like a good card for the price (about $180)

[CoolZone]

Just because the clocks are higher dosent mean nothing. And, i bet the 9800GTX will take out the 9800GX2 and HD3870X2. Just a hunch, because Nvidia always wins now.

From the photos in the GPU-Z(confirmed to be 100% valid),the 9800GTX will be only a 8800GTS overclocked,so lower than a 9800GX2 or HD3870X2.
It cannot have performances over the 9800GX2 because it has low hardware specs

[PP Mguire]

Lol i posted that before GPU-Z stuff was everywhere.