The Kougar Crew

[ZhengHe]

Approximately 2 weeks ago our users were challenged by Das Capitolin (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=189139), administrator of Benchmark Reviews (http://benchmarkreviews.com/), to see whether or not we could best his combined points total. A score which places him squarely at the top of our team ranking and too great acclaim. This challenge being made many of our members banded together to help our number two producer increase his score and eventually beat out Das Capitolin. Thus "The Kougar Crew" was born.

At the current rate of production we should be able to best Das Capitolin in 9.1 months, but for my money that is much too long. With a combined 24 hour production of 5,000 we could cut that time literally in half, and perhaps further. Together we can surely triumph!

Several members have already started folding under Kougar's name and many more are likely to do so. As it stands today these are the current individuals have joined our crew:

Crew Members:

Kougar
Sadasius
ZhengHe
bobletman
slugbug
raidersforever01

I realize that induction into this crew may jeopardize some people's eligibility for the April Folding Contest (http://www.bjorn3d.com/forum/showthread.php?p=138094). If that is the case please finish your 5 working units first. In addition, this is entirely optional. Don't feel pressured to join if you rather have your working units shown under your own name instead. You also need not join for any particular period of time, though longer would of course be better for our overall production goal. Use of all machines is also not necessary or required. If you have more then one machine folding and would like to help out have one folding under Kougar and another under your own name.

If you would like to join in our endeavor and obtain the recognition you deserve then post in this thread and I will add your name to the list. Included how much daily, weekly, or monthly production you intend to donate would also be useful.

[bobletman]

woot just nine more months to go :grin:.I have my bros duo core running for Kougar.

[slugbug]

I haven't joined the crew. Not sure where you got that info from. I suppose I could once I get some of these problems ironed out.

[bobletman]

I haven't joined the crew. Not sure where you got that info from. I suppose I could once I get some of these problems ironed out.

lol you have a quad im sure you can spare a WU or two. Actually that would be a good use for using two smp clients. 1 client works on kougars and the other works on your own, hmm I think im gonna try that.

[slugbug]

lol you have a quad im sure you can spare a WU or two. Actually that would be a good use for using two smp clients. 1 client works on kougars and the other works on your own, hmm I think im gonna try that.

Hopefully you'll have better luck than I did. I had it working fine last night using two v5.91 SMP clients with the Affinity changer installed. I shut down last night and when I started up this morning I lost both work units.

I just upgraded one of the clients to v5.92 and will see if that helps. My theory is since both are using a different MPI they should not conflict with each other. I was getting a combined 4000 ppd last night before it all went tits up :frown:

I'll set up my E6750 rig later today to fold for the Kougar crew.

[raidersforever01]

When i get into work today i will set a computer or 2 up for the kougar crew.

[slugbug]

Ok I'm on the crew now :)

[Sadasius]

Actually I stopped folding under Kougar's name at his request.....If you read the challenge thread after I was trying to rally people to do that he wrote this....

I don't drop in regularly just once and see what I miss... :eek2:

My current PPD is showing to be 1,610 which I still consider to be low, but is higher than what it was several days ago, I assume that'd be your handywork Sadasius but I don't know how to tell for sure. ;)

I've only shut off one PC and have my Quadbox at stock since my watercooling kit is not installed just now. I noticed the last couple days my score jumped slightly, but I'm still below the roughly 2,000 a day of my previous rough average.

As much as I would like to dethrone Das Capitolin from the top he has had most of a year at 3k+ production to built up a buffer, which I've been chipping away at since his production dropped. Let me put it this way:

Das has 1,168,524 points. I have 787,070 points. Our entire Bjorn3D team combined generates a roughly currently 15,000 points a day. Even if the entire team folded under my name it would take an entire month to catch him. Currently on my own it will take me about 6-10 months to do so.

As much as I appreciate the thought and the idea of getting ahead of Das, I'm not going to ask anyone to fold under my name. I'd rather y'all keep to folding under your own names just so y'all know what your contribution has been. It still benefits the team, and it still benefits the protein research, and Das will be going done soon enough... :beerchug:



Das Capitolin has not been our top producer for at least six months, I should know as that was me. In fact as SonicWRX said he's currently producing in 7th place. :wave:

Oh, and :keepfolding:

[slugbug]

Lets here from Kougar on whether or not he wants us to help him. I don't mind helping if that's what he wants.

[Sadasius]

Did you read the quote he wrote? Basically answers your question in it.

[slugbug]

Oops, I guess I missed that :redface: I guess we should close this thread then.

[Sadasius]

I can very much understand. It is a fight he took on himself and he is going to do it himself. I would not want to steal the spotlight on that! If anything cheer him on...:dancingparty::toot::ole:

[Kougar]

Well guys, to be honest I said that because I have mixed feelings about doing something like this. I don't want anyone to feel they need to fold under my name and I don't want to discourage anyone from folding for the Bjorn3D team because they see something like this happening. And as I mentioned before, passing Das is still going to take several months even with all the help.

Considering how far all of y'all seem to want to go with this, then I won't say anything to stop anyone. If you want to see Das go down that badly (I'll admit I do) then that is fine. I will simply ask that soon as we pass Das in the points that y'all go back to folding under your individual names.

I guess I had better give up trying to figure out what points are mine and what aren't, though... I installed the 5.92 SMP client last night and am running my Q6600 @ 3.6GHz with the system fine tuned for performance. From the looks of it my own PPD should jump another ~500 at least above what my Q6600 was getting using the basic 5.04 console clients.

As always :keepfolding: :icon_tiphat:

[srpeters18]

Don't want to get too off topic here, but what kind of voltage does it take you to get 3.6? I can't get over 3.5:offtopic:

[Sadasius]

Don't want to get too off topic here, but what kind of voltage does it take you to get 3.6? I can't get over 3.5:offtopic:

For the SLACR GO anywhere from 1.35 to 1.5 depending on the chip. What are your settings now for the CPU, RAM, NB, SB?

[Kougar]

Yer a bit to fast srpeters! I updated my sig to be current again... NB + FSB voltages are key using a Q6600 @ 400FSB.

[srpeters18]

Don't remember right offhand, as I'm on the wrong side of the country. I know the CPU is running at 1.52 (after vdroop, about 1.57 in BIOS), mem is at 2.2, nb and sb I can't really remember, but they are set at the highest voltage that is still in the green. Once I get ahold of a nb waterblock I'll be setting voltages there a little higher.

EDIT: I had the 400FSB rock solid for 3 weeks or so with a x8 multiplier. The x9 kills me everytime at 400FSB. It'll boot into Vista just fine, can even run Prime95 for several hours (at a lower voltage even) but then after anywhere from 5-48 hours, it'll just hard lock. Can't move the cursor or anything.

[Sadasius]

Hmmmm sounds like a thermal issue as those settings should get you to 3.6 no problem. Is it a B3 stepping?

[srpeters18]

Well, I'm watercooled on the processor, doesn't get above about 65 at current volts, had it running at 3.6 at 60 degrees flat, but had that hard lock issue. I suppose it could be the MCP/SPP temps, but I have no way to measure that under load. Again, a good reason to get a good nb waterblock, but I'm still working on that. There's only one that I've seen for the 780i, and its a custom job out of somebody's garage. When I get home, I'll have to look into it some more.

[Kougar]

I don't pretend to know NVIDIA chipset overclocking, but I would strongly suspect its a chipset and/or FSB related cause. P35 requires +0.2v MCH voltage to avoid locks and roughly +0.1 or 0.2v FSB to maintain long-term stability. tRD and other chipset strap settings are critical at 400FSB with a Quad.

Currently I'm at 402FSB with a tRD of 6, if I raise the FSB much more the tRD will be forced to jump to 8 and I'd take a performance hit that's not worth the higher FSB gained.

[Sadasius]

I don't pretend to know NVIDIA chipset overclocking, but I would strongly suspect its a chipset and/or FSB related cause. P35 requires +0.2v MCH voltage to avoid locks and roughly +0.1 or 0.2v FSB to maintain long-term stability. tRD and other chipset strap settings are critical at 400FSB with a Quad.

What did you strap yours to? 266, 333 or 400? This was actually something I did not understand and was trying to on some discussions. My Maximus Extreme has so many functions I still do not yet know what the hell they all do or stand for.

***EDIT*** sorry for the thread jack....will start another thread with this topic.

[ZhengHe]

Should be interesting to see what the 24 hour average looks like by tomorrow. Here's what the graph displays as thus far:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9940/clipboard01uf3.th.gif (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard01uf3.gif)

Considering how far all of y'all seem to want to go with this, then I won't say anything to stop anyone. If you want to see Das go down that badly (I'll admit I do) then that is fine. I will simply ask that soon as we pass Das in the points that y'all go back to folding under your individual names.


Well that goes without saying Kougar. Once we surpass Das our task is over and we all go back to folding under our own own respective usernames. That being said the more people the help out the faster this can be done with so that everyone who is helping out now can go back to folding under their own usernames.

[Kougar]

Heh, at this rate we'll hit the 4,000 PPD mark... I can tell the SMP client gives a huge boost to PPD over running four of the 5.04 console clients.

I currently stand at exactly 4 months to overtake Das at the current PPD rate. We've dropped that down from roughly 10 months, before. :)

[bobletman]

I will get another smp client running soon so it will probably boost your ppd by about 1500.

[ZhengHe]

It looks like we're standing firm about about 4 months, though it has jumped up a few times this week. I'm was looking to get this done in 2 months, both in order for all the contributors to get back to folding under their own usernames as soon as possible and in order to finally complete the challenge in record time. Four months is quite long after all, even though it is almost 1/3 of the time it would have taken before. I'm thinking of having some sort of side contest in order get more people folding for the Cougar crew, though it would be difficult to monitor. There will likely be a modest prize of either money or something else you guys would like. More information on that later. Just giving you all a heads up.