3DMark Vantage Scores

[SwedBear]

Ok, post your 3Dmark Vantage scores here!

[sushrukh]

I was about to post this thread. :) Stick this thread please like the 3DMark2006 thread.Still dwlding the Trial version.

[sushrukh]

Sorry for double posting.Ran the Vantage & my score is Performance 4519 3DMarks.The 2nd graphics test (http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/original/2008/04/3DMark_Vantage_PCGH_Online_02.jpg)is awesome to look at. :)

Link :- http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=25921&resultType=19

[Scott]

Performance 10437

That is the score done in our review of my machine. If you look at our article all the 9800GX2 scores are mine.

[sushrukh]

I told you Scott, you'll atleast get a score of 10K+. :) Thanks for the nice article.

Finally no more " never ending " CPU tests.New CPU tests take very little time compared to the previous 3DMark 2006 CPU tests.Just what i have expected to see in this new version. :)

[breakmyheart]

13299, got duo core E8400, so cant get too high... ...

[sushrukh]

13299, got duo core E8400, so cant get too high... ...

Nice score. :) If you can,try to provide the Futuremark link too so that we can see & compare the scores & our test machine within ourselves.:)

So, what's your system spec that has been used to achieve that score ?

[peti1212]

My computer just got raped by 3DMark Vantage! :ahhhhh: Here is my score:

P5347 3DMarks

http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=19828&resultType=19

I don't know if this is right, but it is kind of wierd. It might have been that there was a few things running in the background and I forgot to shut them down. Too bad you can only do the test once if you have the trial. :(

[sushrukh]

My computer just got raped by 3DMark Vantage! :ahhhhh: Here is my score:

P5347 3DMarks

:(

You are using the older driver also.Maybe you got lower score for your 169.44 display driver.

Download the latest 175.12 display driver from here :- http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/175.12/175.12_geforce_winvista_64bit_english_beta.exe

[peti1212]

It might be, although I cannot run the test again, because if I do, I will not be able to look at my results because of the stupid limitations in the program. :(

[sushrukh]

For people who are going to buy the Advanced version of 3DMark vantage,please be reminded you can't save & view your benchmark results later.To save & vew results, you need to buy the Professional licence.Some people have reported that they are feeling cheated by buying the Advanced version because of the missing " Save & view later " option.

[ahsalloum]

http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08183/dfds334.png
This is what I got. Damn, free copy. I'm pretty sure this is not the best I can get.

[Dragon_CPU]

13299, got duo core E8400, so cant get too high... ...
Hey we need proof of that one, Scott's got the best rig on this forum and he only hit 10,000+...

[bobletman]

wow nice scores guys this makes me want to get vista now.

[PP Mguire]

Lol seeing that other screeny it dosent suprise me Kingpin is already at the top.

[coxmaster]

Well.. i havent really looked at scores much, but i finally got around to running the test. I scored P4543

http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=60370&resultType=19

[jellyrole]

Kingpin seems to really like the top!

[peti1212]

I bet he is a rich bas**rd or else he would not have the money to do liquid nitrogen cooling and do the insane overclocks on the hardware.

[Scott]

If I recall it right vendors give him the stuff free so he can push it and get a high score. It is like free advertising to them when people see what he used to get there.

[breakmyheart]

Nice score. :) If you can,try to provide the Futuremark link too so that we can see & compare the scores & our test machine within ourselves.:)

So, what's your system spec that has been used to achieve that score ?

Oh....yeah I should give a link lol

http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=24164&resultType=19

[peti1212]

That's intense man! Very nice rig, Quad-SLI you say. That's intense. How does your system work in Crysis? Do you have any benchies from Crysis? I want to stay on topic but can you please create a new thread showing your results in Crysis? I would be very interested.

[breakmyheart]

p14087

GPU score 18311, cpu SCORE....ah....lol, around 8300.

all air cooling, and generally I m running my rig at this speed 24/7, passed ORTHOS test 6 hrs 11 mins.

[sushrukh]

You bought the Pro version ?

[Dragon_CPU]

p14087

GPU score 18311, cpu SCORE....ah....lol, around 8300.

all air cooling, and generally I m running my rig at this speed 24/7, passed ORTHOS test 6 hrs 11 mins.
Very nice score got more money to burn on a rig than me LOL....

[zachig]

Lol seeing that other screeny it dosent suprise me Kingpin is already at the top.
Why am I not surprised as well??? :lol:

Anyway, currently downloading the trial version and will run it later on today or tomorrow. When I'll do, I'll post the scores of course, here in the thread. ;-)

[zachig]

Just finished running the "Performance Test" and got a score of P4640!

To be honest, I was expecting more from my 8800GTX, compared to other people who got around P4500 while using a 8800GTS.

But I guess it probably the CPU (E6600) that makes the difference between a 4K to a 5K or 6K score...:frown:

I'm planning to upgrade my E6600 to a Quad Q6600 in about two months, so we'll see then if it makes any big difference.

Oh, and beside that, I'm still running the nVidia WHQL 169.25 Video Drivers, so maybe installing the BETA 175.16 drivers (Yep, nVidia already released 175.16 drivers after 175.12), will make any difference as well.

I'm thinking about buying the "Advanced" Version (only $19.95).

So...In case I'll buy it, I'll install 175.16 and re-test.

[sushrukh]

Wow finally i'm near at your score Zach despite having a crappy CPU.Actually Zach, Vantage is more GPU intensive than the 3DMark 2006 which was CPU intensive & if you had a good dual or Quad core,you would get a very high score.But to score high in Vantage, you need to have a Quad.Otherwise your score will remain at par with other users even they have much wicker CPU than yours.Like for example, my CPU is crap compared to yours but still we are getting nearly identical scores as the performance diff b2in a 8800 GTS 512 & an 8800 GTX is nominal. ;)

[zachig]

But to score high in Vantage, you need to have a Quad.
I guess you're right and like I said, I'll hopefully upgrade to a Quad-Core Q6600 in about two months. Let's hope it'll increase performance also in future games and not just in 3DMark Vantage, as I'm not planning to buy it only to score higher in Vantage...;-)

[Muppet]

This was my first run.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/CraigCooper/Vantage42ready.jpg

P18051

[sushrukh]

Great score. :)

[Muppet]

Thank you. :smile:

[zachig]

WOW!!! :jawdrop: AMAZING score, Muppet!!! I guess I'm far below you, with "only" ~P4600. ;-)

Damn, if I could only afford to upgrade to a Q6600 (or higher) and a 9800GX2 sooner...(still saving money, but I guess it won't happen in the next 4-5 months...:frown:).

Anyway, I'm (still...) quite satisfied with what I got now as I could play Crysis and can play now Assassin's Creed at the highest settings quite smoothly.

[Muppet]

WOW!!! :jawdrop: AMAZING score, Muppet!!! I guess I'm far below you, with "only" ~P4600. ;-)

Damn, if I could only afford to upgrade to a Q6600 (or higher) and a 9800GX2 sooner...(still saving money, but I guess it won't happen in the next 4-5 months...:frown:).

Anyway, I'm (still...) quite satisfied with what I got now as I could play Crysis and can play now Assassin's Creed at the highest settings quite smoothly.

It's all good. If you can play all your games at high levels, then really it's all you need.

[zachig]

It's all good. If you can play all your games at high levels, then really it's all you need.
Yeah, as this is all that matters afterall. But I guess it won't last for long, with more and more "highly-demanding" (DirectX10 as well) games...;-)

[breakmyheart]

This was my first run.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/CraigCooper/Vantage42ready.jpg

P18051

Do u water cooled your CPU?

[Muppet]

Do u water cooled your CPU?

Yes. I brought in a Danger Den setup, that I have been using since the Nforce4 days. Still works well today.

[HSMTruman]

So heres my 3dMark Vantage score with my new comp... Performance 6975.
thx to the_dope_chaud & Schwarz for helping me choosing my new parts and helping tunnig them.

Woot!

Result Pic (http://www.geocities.com/simon_punk/bench.jpg)

[Muppet]

You had better change the size of your image before you get stomped on.

[Schwarz]

Hey nice truman !!
Welcome back buddy !
anyways wait till I sell you that striker extreme :)

[zachig]

So heres my 3dMark Vantage score with my new comp... Performance 6975.
thx to the_dope_chaud & Schwarz for helping me choosing my new parts and helping tunnig them.

Woot!

Result Pic (http://www.geocities.com/simon_punk/bench.jpg)
Yeah...WELCOME BACK Truman! :icon_tiphat: It's nice to see you post again. Abd what a nice score as well...;-)

[Schwarz]

Truman dont noob it out on me and just post your 3dmark score to piss me off :P haha.

[the_dope_chaud]

Truman dont noob it out on me and just post your 3dmark score to piss me off :P haha.

of course its whats gonna happen ;-)
he's gone for at least a year, and will come back when he gets new hardware....

[HSMTruman]

of course its whats gonna happen ;-)
he's gone for at least a year, and will come back when he gets new hardware....

lol im not a hardware guy like you guys. im a gamer ... that like's to have a good 3dmark score :) lol.

ne ways ill try to write some lines every couple of days for ya schwarz ;P

[Schwarz]

Push it to the limit - Corbin Bleu !
If you love douche then youll love this !

[Muppet]

I have managed to scronge up a few more points.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/CraigCooper/18800.jpg

Almost at 19k

[Muppet]

I pushed the cards a bit harder. :smile:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/CraigCooper/19000.jpg

[zachig]

WOW!!! After installing the latest nvidia WHQL 175.16 Drivers I got a score of P5430 (!!!), while my previous score was "only" P4640 with 169.25 WHQL drivers!!! :jawdrop:

I'd say it's a quite big difference by "only" replacing the drivers.

Hopefully (although I'm a bit skeptic) I'll get the same performance boost in games...:lol:

[Muppet]

WOW!!! After installing the latest nvidia WHQL 175.16 Drivers I got a score of P5430 (!!!), while my previous score was "only" P4640 with 169.25 WHQL drivers!!! :jawdrop:

I'd say it's a quite big difference by "only" replacing the drivers.

Hopefully (although I'm a bit skeptic) I'll get the same performance boost in games...:lol:

Yes, I must admit the change from 174.74 to 175.75 did bump up the score quite nicely.

[Muppet]

Just installed the new cards and had a run with a small overclock of 4.0 on the 9650. Cards where at stock clocks.

P22,171

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/CraigCooper/22k.jpg

[breakmyheart]

now lets see some real ****....lol

http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=187901&resultType=19

[Max9k]

Hello everyone! I'm new to these boards here. Thought i might share my score, it's not really too great. My 88GTX & E6300 are showing their gray hairs :(.

P5956 - http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/6073/p5956jy2.jpg

[Dragon]

Mine under performance test is p12654 3d Mark Vantage (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=216741)

system
3870 tri fire 892/954 3870x2 , 866/1266 3870
C2Q 6600 @ 3.888 gighz

[Limbo]

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9452/p14633ndiv4.jpg

[PP Mguire]

Damn you guys and your SLI 9800GX2s and 280s!!!

Heres mine.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Cars%20and%20PCs/Vantage1.jpg

[Dragon_CPU]

Well here's mine no SLI but good score for a single 9800gtx, and the CPU score is great....

[PP Mguire]

At least that isnt so entirely way over mine lol.

[Dragon]

i hope regeneration finishes the ati physic drivers soon ... i like to see mine with physics .

[R3APER]

Hey im new to these forums i thought id post my scores performance and high preset http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=187332&resultType=19
http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=209844&resultType=19

[Limbo]

Awesome rig R3APER! :bowdown:

[R3APER]

Thanks man but do you kniow how i put a sig and avatar it says im not allowed to access that page or something. Do i need to have so many posts before i can add one?

[Limbo]

Thanks man but do you kniow how i put a sig and avatar it says im not allowed to access that page or something. Do i need to have so many posts before i can add one?


I went a long while without and had quite a few posts before I bothered with them so it could be post based, just guessing here.

[Dragon_CPU]

Ok here is a very good result for an AMD Athlon 3600+ X2 2.0ghz cpu and 8800GT,

With Drivers 177.35 and Nvidia Physx installed....

Also PP you wondered if the Physx worked on the 8800 series, Well here proof that it works on the 8800GT at least, Just download it and try it out for the 8800GS....

[zachig]

I've just installed 177.66 BETA drivers and got a huge improvement of my 3DMark Vantage score using these.

I got now P6205 instead of P4640 I was getting with my 'old' 169.25 WHQL drivers...:grin:

Too bad the 177.66 are still NOT supporting PhysX on my 8800GTX...:frown:

I'm getting BOTH the 'GeForce PhysX' and 'AGEIA PhysX' grayed-out on the 'PhysX' Settings Tab...:frown:

[Dragon_CPU]

Quick question, when you installed Vantage did you custom install or just install it? Try this go into control panel to your add/remove programs and see if you are running the Aegia physx also. When I installed I made sure to not install the Aegia physx from vantage and then just installed nvidia physx by itself. Its worth a try, maybe with them both installed they may not work proper? I would go in and uninstall all the Physx then just reinstall the nvidia physx by itself.....Couldnt hurt...

[zachig]

Quick question, when you installed Vantage did you custom install or just install it? Try this go into control panel to your add/remove programs and see if you are running the Aegia physx also. When I installed I made sure to not install the Aegia physx from vantage and then just installed nvidia physx by itself. Its worth a try, maybe with them both installed they may not work proper? I would go in and uninstall all the Physx then just reinstall the nvidia physx by itself.....Couldnt hurt...
Yep...You're right, I have them both installed. ;-)

I'll give it a try although I'm quite skeptic it'll work...

Thanks for the advice...:icon_tiphat:

[Dragon_CPU]

Heres a bench with a Celeron 420 conroe-L 1.6ghz OC'ed to 2.66ghz 1333fsb on stock volts. Ran with an 8800GT. Going to go for 1600fsb....

[Dragon_CPU]

As if that wasnt impressive enough here is almost a 100% OC....and single core to boot...LOL

[FunkZ]

P11756 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=248871)
Specs in sig

I need to bench it again since the vmod and overclock on the 260. Was waiting on some aftermarket cooling first though.

[sushrukh]

I got P7273 (http://service.futuremark.com/home.action;jsessionid=F0D8C73125D2699ED2FC932DBB4 4AD6E) with CPU set at default 2.8 Ghz with Nvidia PhysX driver & 177.79 display driver in Vista X64.Previously got P4519 with the same machine.


http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6204/p7273vantagescoremf7.jpg

[PP Mguire]

I think your cpu is bottlenecking your car Sush. Mines at 2.6 and my 8800GS is keeping up with you.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Cars%20and%20PCs/Grrrr.jpg

[sushrukh]

I think your cpu is bottlenecking your car Sush.

That's for sure PP. :(

[PP Mguire]

Well i made the comparison and said that becasue i really think your card should be doing alot better than mine. I was only running this X2 at 2.6 at the time i did that bench too.

[pugboy9]

I really like the new vantage benchmark. I got a couple of advanced coppies for free with my RAM, Mushkin is great :offtopic:. So, here's my score. I think I can break 20,000 with my set up. I will have to lap my cpu first however to do it.

19238 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=292743)

[sushrukh]

Little update to my previous score.I've upgraded from my old Pentium D 2.8 to Q6600 G0.Naturally my score in Vantage has increased.I've got P8080 & P8057 (using 177.79 in Vista X64) in Vantage.


http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2425/q6600vantage2cf9.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4808/q6600vantage3bf7.jpg

[zachig]

I just ran Vantage again, after installing nVidia 177.83 Drivers with PhysX enabled on my 8800GTX (G80) and guess what?

I got an impressive score of P7781 (!!!) :jawdrop:

It's a huge increase compared to 177.66 drivers that resulted in a score of P6205!

I wonder what will be the score after I'll replace my current E6600 with the new Q6600 I just bought! ;-)

I'll keep you updated...:icon_tiphat:

[zachig]

Just ran Vantage again, this time with my new Q6600 @ 3.0Ghz and got only a slight improvement :frown:...This time I got P7848 (but with a CPU score of 27K :grin:).

[Muppet]

Just ran Vantage again, this time with my new Q6600 @ 3.0Ghz and got only a slight improvement :frown:...This time I got P7848 (but with a CPU score of 27K :grin:).

Now overclock that Q6600 and watch your score take off. 3.6 on air should be easy.

[zachig]

Now overclock that Q6600 and watch your score take off. 3.6 on air should be easy.
Like I said in my other thread, I'm going to keep my 3.0GHz settings, at least for the time being and I'm NOT going to overclock my Q6600 any higher, mainly because my ASUS P5N-E 650i mobo is 'holding' me and also because I'm already reaching the max load temps...:frown:

So unless I'll have better cooling solution and better cable management / air-flow and a better mobo, I'll keep these settings. ;-)

And I must say, I'm quite satisifed with a 3.0GHz overclock, although it's quite mild overclock and I'm pretty sure I can reach higher overclocks with this Q6600 (G0), so it's a bit dissapointing...

Thanks anyway...:icon_tiphat:

[sushrukh]

Now overclock that Q6600 and watch your score take off. 3.6 on air should be easy.

Not that easy Muppet.I've tried 3.6 with mine also & everything looked fine in games & benchmarks but whenever i tried to run Orthos,the CPU temps went over 68-70C & the PC got restarted.So, it's better to stay within 3-3.2 unless u've a excellent cooling solution.

[zachig]

Not that easy Muppet.I've tried 3.6 with mine also & everything looked fine in games & benchmarks but whenever i tried to run Orthos,the CPU temps went over 68-70C & the PC got restarted.So, it's better to stay within 3-3.2 unless u've a excellent cooling solution.
EXACTLY! Mainly with my current mobo and current air-cooler...

[Muppet]

EXACTLY! Mainly with my current mobo and current air-cooler...

Just trying to encourage you to give it a bit more. But no worries.

Most Q6600 GO will do 3.6 on air around 1.4- 1.5 volts. I have a second system using a P5Q Pro and Q6600@3.6 air cooled with the IFX-14 Thermalright. Idles at 30 degrees celcius and prime95 stable small tft at 55 degrees. So it is do able. That's 24/7 too.

[Methious]

That's a heck of a heat sink, accommodates up to 3 120mm fans, has a backplate heat sink for the reverse side of the socket. With 2 good fans it'll set you back close to a hundred and take up a good portion of the interior of your case.

I bet motherboards tremble when they see it coming, long term it'll probably warp the board.

[zachig]

That's a heck of a heat sink, accommodates up to 3 120mm fans, has a backplate heat sink for the reverse side of the socket. With 2 good fans it'll set you back close to a hundred and take up a good portion of the interior of your case.

I bet motherboards tremble when they see it coming, long term it'll probably warp the board.
Hehehe...:biggrin: Yeah, that's definitely one hell of an Air-Cooler...;)

[Methious]

I'm thinking that with the sheer mass of that thing part of the cooling comes from a miniature black hole at it's center.

I was seriously thinking of reviewing one and then mounting it on a plaque like deer antlers and hanging it over the computer. Just it's proximity to the CPU should help with heat. That or scare it into submission.

[Goliath182]

How much CPU score should i expect with a Opteron 170 @ 2.8 ghz?

[Dragon]

that be a little hard to say . especially in vantage , bc memory makes a boat load of difference on that potion of the test .

Yikes that thermal right cooler is freaking huge ..... i think my temps dropped 3 degrees from looking at it ....

[Goliath182]

Im getting between 4k and 4.2k.

[Dragon]

i will say thats pretty good .

[Goliath182]

Not good enough for me. :lol: I need to bring this performance score up some.

[Dragon]

LOL ... theres really only 1 way . change the cpu and socket completly . you can still use amd but if you goin for all out assault with amd the 9950 is your best choice . even tho nvidia doing the physx portion you still bottle necking the video card with the cpu .. i hate to be the one to say it :( .

[Goliath182]

Yea this is just a system to kick around for a bit before a big upgrade. Looking forward to the new FX. :-D

[Dragon]

lets hope amd figured out how to break that 3 gighz barrier , there supposed to break 4+ gighz

[david.hill64]

System:
XFX 680iLT
CPU Intel 6750
2* XFX 9600gt SLI
4GB OCZ RAM

All at stock: nothing overclocked.
Vantage score on 31 May: P5584 (CPU 4536 GPU 6050)

Updated chipset and GPU drivers today. New Vantage score P8334 (CPU 16865!!!! GPU 7132)

Why has the CPU score increased so much?

[Limbo]

System:
XFX 680iLT
CPU Intel 6750
2* XFX 9600gt SLI
4GB OCZ RAM

All at stock: nothing overclocked.
Vantage score on 31 May: P5584 (CPU 4536 GPU 6050)

Updated chipset and GPU drivers today. New Vantage score P8334 (CPU 16865!!!! GPU 7132)

Why has the CPU score increased so much?

Due to Nvidia PhysX, turn it off as is required for a "valid" Vantage score and run Vantage again.

[david.hill64]

Not sure about the concept of a 'valid' Vantage score, particularly with PhysX being one of the tests. I shall be very happy if the new drivers result in improved stability and performance in everyday use.

[Goliath182]

Im gonna test a 4870 X2 in this Opteron system next week. Talk about a bottleneck. :lol: Ill post pics and scores when i get them.

[Limbo]

Not sure about the concept of a 'valid' Vantage score, particularly with PhysX being one of the tests. I shall be very happy if the new drivers result in improved stability and performance in everyday use.

Me either but it is deemed invalid by Futuremark when using the Nvidia PhysX. The test runs PhysX on your processor by default and with PhysX enabled on a rig with Nvidia PhysX capable cards it takes over and increases your CPU score on the benchmark.

[Dragon]

you lucky dog .. on the 4870x2 congrats look forward to some benchies from ya .

[sushrukh]

Yeah will be lookin' forward 2 see some pics & benchies Goliath. :)

[Goliath182]

My only concern is case size. If it fits i will have exactly 0.001 inches to spare. :lol: Once i get my new Thermaltake case (courtesy of Thermaltake :icon_tiphat:) ill change that.

[sushrukh]

Which TT case is that ?

[Goliath182]

This one.

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1303&ID=1807#Tab2

[PP Mguire]

lets hope amd figured out how to break that 3 gighz barrier , there supposed to break 4+ gighzTheir stock AM3 Denebs will be over 3ghz clock. AM2+ Deneb will start at 2.8ghz. There will be no backwards compatibility and right now its looking like there will be no FX branded chip. No trying to piss on some parades but thats it lol. Hopefully with some more time the FX thing will change.

Told you the Opty would bottleneck lol.

[Goliath182]

Told you the Opty would bottleneck lol.

I refuse that. Its not bad in games. I get a lot more frames in Crysis than with the 8800 GT.

[PP Mguire]

Thats because its better in general
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Smileys/whipping.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Smileys/roll.gif

[Goliath182]

Thats because its better in general
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Smileys/whipping.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Smileys/roll.gif
I know your 8800 GS is not bottlenecked like you say. When you get that 6000 then youll really have to stop complaining. ;-)

[TunedFish]

Microsoft Windows Vista SP1 x64
Gigabyte P35-DS3R
WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0
6144 MB 864mhz 5-4-4-12
Intel Celeron Dual-Core E1200 @3456 MHz FSB 432 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 178.15 694/1458/1269 autofan

Main test results (PPD Disabled)
3DMark Score P8719 3DMarks
CPU Score 5271
Graphics Score 11149

Test Results
Graphics Tests
Jane Nash 32.58 FPS
New Calico 32.74 FPS
CPU Tests
AI Test 688.21 Operations/s
Physics Test 8.02 Operations/s
Feature Tests
Texture Fill Test 775.12 GTexels/s
Color Fill Test 7.64 GPixels/s
Pixel Shader 33.42 FPS
Stream Out 31.57 FPS
GPU Particles 41.77 FPS
Perlin Noise 41.77 FPS

Main test results (PPD Enabled)
3DMark Score P13198 3DMarks
CPU Score 30354
Graphics Score 11106
Test Results
Graphics Tests
Jane Nash 32.58 FPS
New Calico 32.48 FPS
CPU Tests
AI Test 670.54 Operations/s
Physics Test 128.86 Operations/s
Feature Tests
Texture Fill Test 775.19 GTexels/s
Color Fill Test 7.64 GPixels/s
Pixel Shader 33.37 FPS
Stream Out 31.57 FPS
GPU Particles 41.8 FPS
Perlin Noise 41.81 FPS

[Dragon]

nice score tunedfish that celery stick is holdin ya back ...

[Limbo]

P11532, no PhysX E8600 on air: Screenie (http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9287/p11532ndoy3.jpg)

[ol'norton]

P13182, no PhysX QX9650 H20 / 280GTX Stock Air.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=482083

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3390/v13182vm6.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v13182vm6.jpg)

[Limbo]

Schweet score Ol'norton! :jawdrop:

[Methious]

Just under 21,000 3DMark Vantage

Soon as NDA is up I can post pics and scores.

[Limbo]

Just under 21,000 3DMark Vantage

Soon as NDA is up I can post pics and scores.

Single card?

[coxmaster]

I would be more than willing to bet this has an impressive CPU behind it.

[ol'norton]

Just under 21,000 3DMark Vantage

Soon as NDA is up I can post pics and scores.

Yeah, I've got a feeling you won't be able to get near hwbot on the 2nd, for people posting World Records. :lol:

[Methious]

That would be Dual GPU, Trifire 4870X2/4870, and yes it's with an impressive CPU. ;-)

[coxmaster]

Heh, ya. The NDA gave it away completely. Lookin forward to the review man, i just hope i7 is as good as people are expecting

[Methious]

Without giving details, you'll be amazed at how good the hypothetical CPU is. Not that we have it, or have driven it, or even know what your talking about.

I think I forgot my medication. :grin:

[coxmaster]

hehe, its alright Methious. We all know you are insane anyway.

Everybody knows that everybody else knows, its just that nobody knows what exactly everybody else knows. And then that one person.. they dont want anybody to know what anybody else knows until they tell everybody themselves. You know?

[Methious]

Here's the rig, ummm Via C3 nano 1 GHZ, yea that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Crossfire 4870X2/4870


3Dmark06
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff255/methious/Intel_Atom/3Dmark06_Trifire.jpg

3DMark Vantage
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff255/methious/Intel_Atom/3DMark_Vantage_21406.jpg

[Goliath182]

Wow looks like Via really kicked it up a notch. :lol: I also like the three RAM slots.

[Methious]

Via put 6 slots on that board.


Wow looks like Via really kicked it up a notch. :lol: I also like the three RAM slots.

[PP Mguire]

I feel ashamed and this is my new rig even =(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Newmachine1.jpg

[Methious]

It's alright your little machine will grow up some day. :ahhhhh:


I feel ashamed and this is my new rig even =(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Newmachine1.jpg

[PP Mguire]

I think my cpu is still holding me back. I wanted an e8400 but this was alot cheaper to go this route.

[Goliath182]

No its your GPU defiantly.

[PP Mguire]

No becasue its not getting much more than my 8800GS.

[Goliath182]

Yea and your 8800 GS is highly overclocked. Your GS certainly can come pretty close to a GTX. And anyways its 3D Mark, when has that had any bearing on how good a GPU is? My friend with his 6000 and 8800 GTS 320 matches my score in 06.

[werty316]

They gotta compensate for a small you-know-what somehow and what better way then to enlarge their epenis' ;)

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1533/epenisyb7.jpg

[PP Mguire]

I made my epenis a bit bigger. Im kickin a dudes butt with an e8400 and 4870 somehow on TPU.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Desktops%20and%20benchmark/AM2Vantage.jpg

[Dragon]

turn off ageia then lets see you take a 4870

[david.hill64]

Back to something more mundane than the Quadzilla (Love the name), I have the following:

XFX 680i LT SLI
Intel E6750 @2.66GHz
4GB OCZ DDR2 8500 (running at 800MHz)
2*XFX 9600GT

All at stock. WHQL 178 Driver

With SLI disabled I get:

CPU 19019, GPU 3735, Overall Vantage 4675

With SLI enabled I get:

CPU 18923, GPU 7251, Overall 8573

So SLI is working well, which is obvious in gaming.

Just did my first overclock to put the CPU at 3.0GHz. The results in SLI mode were:

CPU 19630, GPU 7196, Overall 8550

A bit of a surprise. I thought the score would have been a bit higher.

[PP Mguire]

Try using a later driver and make sure PhysX is installed. Your cpu score will be as high as mine.

[Bio-Hazard]

I made my epenis a bit bigger. Im kickin a dudes butt with an e8400 and 4870 somehow on TPU.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Desktops%20and%20benchmark/AM2Vantage.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Desktops%20and%20benchmark/AM2Vantage.jpg)

This might srink up your epenis a little......................:ahhhhh:

Try beating my little ATi HD4870 GPU score, or total "P" score for that matter with your current card.........................:icon_tiphat:
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8994/vantageocsph0.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/688/vantageocsds9.jpg

[Dragon]

latest run on my current rig here (http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=510344&compareResultType=19)

[david.hill64]

Try using a later driver and make sure PhysX is installed. Your cpu score will be as high as mine.

I'll try the new betas soon, or wait for the WHQL version which I think is out this week. PhysX is enabled with the current driver: my CPU score went up from 4536 (GPU 6050, total P5584) with the pre-PhysX drivers.

I was surprised that overclocking the CPU to 3GHz resulted in a lower overall score than with things at stock. I guess the PhysX has taken over the CPU score totally as Limbo suggested.

[Goliath182]

Heres my score, with a 4850 at default clocks and a Q9550 @ 3.4 GHz

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/goliath_182/stock3d.jpg

[Dragon]

very nice score tony :)

[Goliath182]

Thanks, I hope to expand on it a bit.

[Limbo]

latest run on my current rig here (http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=510344&compareResultType=19)

What processor do you have in that DX58SO ? The 2.66GHz i7 800 ?

[Dragon]

920 (needless fill because of limitation of char per post)

[PP Mguire]

Heres my score, with a 4850 at default clocks and a Q9550 @ 3.4 GHz

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/goliath_182/stock3d.jpg

Dude OC that video card please. Your killing me with being lower than my score with a QUAD. :help:

[Limbo]

Dude OC that video card please. Your killing me with being lower than my score with a QUAD. :help:

Play fair and turn off Physics, scores with Physics enabled are not recognized as valid by Futuremark. You will then have the true CPU score, not one based on the GFX cards abilities.

[Dragon]

and the same goes for the gpu bc it gets bloated as well

[Goliath182]

Dude OC that video card please. Your killing me with being lower than my score with a QUAD. :help:
Stop cheatin! :lol: I bet your dual only gets about 6k at most so you wouldnt see a score of 7k.

[Goliath182]

Here is my system at 3.55, Ram at 1397 6-6-6-16 timeings, 4850 @ 700 core/ 1103 mem

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/goliath_182/3Dvantage.jpg

[ol'norton]

Stock Intel Aircooler on CPU, Stock Aircooler on videocard, no PhysX.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1148/v13423fo8.jpg

[Dragon]

not a bad score but kinda low for a high cpu speed. i manage 23k @ 3.8 on a 920

[Limbo]

Beautiful rig Ol'norton. :icon_tiphat:

[Dragon]

just hot off the press . i should turn off msn when running but still not bad considering 0 overclock on the video card . Here (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=531526)

GPU:14825
CPU: 22841
COre i7 920 @ 3.8
4870x2 750x900

[ol'norton]

not a bad score but kinda low for a high cpu speed. i manage 23k @ 3.8 on a 920

But you have 6 gig of Triple channel memory, I'm still on my old 2 gig dual channel kit.
It was good enough to get me 2nd spot for single 280GTX.

[Dragon]

i ran 2 sticks score the same . good overclock still just i would optimize yours up a bit .

2 sticks of mushy memory
HERE (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=510344)
cpu core i7 920 @ 3700MHz
video card 4870x2 @ 852/932

GPU: 16002
CPU: 22643

[ol'norton]

Do you have a screenshot of that?

[Dragon]

nope y i submitted it . you got a good overclock ;) , i start looking at how to optimize it better. what info u needing ?

[Methious]

Ok I can see it's about time to drag QuadZilla into this.

[Dragon]

haha bring it on mini me is ready :p LMAO ........

[werty316]

E-penis Battle!

Round 1!

FIGHT!

[Goliath182]

Lol sick em Mark, Youll whip them down to the ground before they know what hit em. :lol:

[Dragon]

he might be able to whoop me but i am not going to make it easy ...
3DMark Vantage (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=532456) i am still on stock clocks hoping to fix that asap

[ol'norton]

nope y i submitted it . you got a good overclock ;) , i start looking at how to optimize it better. what info u needing ?

It was because I had Hiperthreading disabled.:redface:
But I think I'll wait till I get it watercooled before I have another go.

[Dragon]

good glad ya got it figured out , i cant wait to see your results :)

[darkorb]

P6840

Gpu 5457
Cpu 28528


http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9361/vantagegpucpuocof5.th.jpg (http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vantagegpucpuocof5.jpg)http://img373.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[PP Mguire]

Is that PhysX enabled or disabled?

[werty316]

Based on the CPU Test 2 score I would have to say that he has PhysX enabled.

[Goliath182]

PhysX is most certainly enabled. Only a i7 can pull out that high of a CPU score.

[darkorb]

so what should i do? i have never used Vantage before.

[Goliath182]

Overclock that Q6600 for one. :wink:

[darkorb]

its at 3 :P

have no time now, should i disable physx to get a lower score? or leave it enabled (dont no how to do it anyways)

ill try 3.4 tomorow or maybe 3.6 i

[Methious]

Click the start button, look for the Nvidia entry, should be sonething about Nvidia PhysX, click that, when it comes up read the screen and disable the PhysX.



its at 3 :P

have no time now, should i disable physx to get a lower score? or leave it enabled (dont no how to do it anyways)

ill try 3.4 tomorow or maybe 3.6 i

[Dragon]

new run 3/4 Crossfire 4870x2 845/930 4870 750/900
CPU 3.996
22106 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=535547)

[Bio-Hazard]

This is the best I've been able to get out of the 4870 Toxic so far on air cooling.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3890/3dmarkvantageur6.jpg

[Dragon]

Looks real good bio :) ... i havnt tried the 4870 on the core i7 yet .

[stef]

Performance 10437

That is the score done in our review of my machine. If you look at our article all the 9800GX2 scores are mine.
HOW COME GAMES LIKE THE LATEST CALL OF DUTY APPEAR TO RUN AT HIGHER FPS ON THE XBOX 360 THEN THE FASTEST COMPUTER GRAPHIC CARD? (SEE ARTICLE TITLED Nvidia GTX-260 Core 216 VS ATI 4870 1GB 5 Game Shootout)
I HEARD THAT SILLY BILLY INSISTED THE GAMES RELEASED ON THE XBOX RUN WITH THE AAA AT LEAST 4 TIMES. IS THIS TRUE

STEF

[david.hill64]

The new 180.48 drivers have helped me. The following on my XFX 680iLT with E6750, 4GB 800DDR2 and 2*XFX9600GT. Previous driver was the 178WHQL.

SLI, no PhysX: CPU 4535, GPU 7750, overall P6583
SLI, PhysX: CPU 18694 (was 18923), GPU 7720 (was 7251), overall P9048 (was P8573)
No SLI, No PhysX: CPU 4659, GPU 4009, overall P4154.

So SLI scaling well and a big boost from PhysX to CPU score.

If I run the CPU at 3GHz in SLI with PhysX the scores are as follows:

CPU 19347, GPU 7723, overall P9088

[Methious]

The new 180.xx drivers were redone with SLI in mind so they scale better with SLI. In some cases much better.

The first true PhysX game, Mirrors Edge, will be out Q1 2009 I believe so we'll get to see what is up with real life application of PhysX.

[Goliath182]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/goliath_182/Vantage-1.jpg

I was surprised i got such a higher CPU score even though my CPU is 600 mhz slower than the Q9550.

[Dragon]

nice job Tony but the 8 threads on the core i7 is superior

[Bio-Hazard]

Keep them scores coming, I know there's alot more in your system than that...............;)

[Goliath182]

Just tried a suicide run of 850 core, and it only made it half way through the second test. :frown:

[Bio-Hazard]

To hot, you might need better cooling on the card.

[3o5]

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2517/82971508fv7.jpg

this is on Win7, I think i could have gotten a better score if i used the newer gfx drivers but cant seem to get them to install right - decent score i think

[Goliath182]

You need to do some overclocking on your CPU to really increase your score. Your GPU score is higher than your CPU's so if you increase the CPU youll get a higher score faster.

[3o5]

my CPU is actually OCed to 3.01GHz its a Q6600

[Goliath182]

I would OC it some more then. :lol:

[3o5]

lol not sure how much more should i set it too after i hit 3.01 i just left it :P

[Goliath182]

You can probably get 3.4 pretty easily depending on the stepping of Q6600.

[below ambient]

waiting on vista then ill throw down some numbers for you to scoff at :ahhhhh:

[Bio-Hazard]

Here's some new numbers from my rig.........................;)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7412/3dmarkvantageqd0.jpg

Here's one a little faster...........:)

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/36/3dmarkvantage1rn8.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=742025

[Methious]

No Applause please. (Bows)

30491 no PhysX Quad SLI GTX-295
37466 W/PhysX Quad SI GTX-295

[Bio-Hazard]

That's what I call extreme.......;)

[Goliath182]

No Applause please. (Bows)

30491 no PhysX Quad SLI GTX-295
37466 W/PhysX Quad SI GTX-295
Rigged! :lol:

[briancowen]

P10899
Cpu 25,060
Gpu 9172

[briancowen]

Here's some new numbers from my rig.........................;)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7412/3dmarkvantageqd0.jpg

Here's one a little faster...........:)

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/36/3dmarkvantage1rn8.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=742025




What settings default or are you going lower settings for more speed?

[Bio-Hazard]

All default performance settings.

[bulletslinger]

wrong spot srry

[PP Mguire]

You might wanna actualy link to your submitted scores or just post a screenshot.

[corrymtx]

I dont understand everytime I link to 3dmark it does that I checked it three times. This is a real noob question, how do i take a screenshot. I will probably never figure it out so my score with physx enabled was P20846 with a GPU score of 18281 and a CPU score of 35996. I wonder why my links never work I received this copy of vantage when I bought my bfg 260.

[PP Mguire]

I dont understand everytime I link to 3dmark it does that I checked it three times. This is a real noob question, how do i take a screenshot. I will probably never figure it out so my score with physx enabled was P20846 with a GPU score of 18281 and a CPU score of 35996. I wonder why my links never work I received this copy of vantage when I bought my bfg 260.

Its not a n00b question, most people actualy dont know how to do that.

See that pr sc button next to scroll lock? Align CPU-Z, GPu-Z and your 3dmark scores in a good shot and hit that button. Then go to paint or your favorite photo editing program and hit paste. Your screenie should then be there and you can save.

[Limbo]

Try linking to the compare URL of your submitted score on Futuremark, not your active session.

[corrymtx]

I think I got it, scores might be a little differnt cause I ran vantage again.
1966

well I guess its to small to make anything out

[PP Mguire]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Desktops%20and%20benchmark/Vantage2801.jpg

[zachig]

In a few minutes I'm gonna post my new Vantage Score after I've replace my faulty P5N-E 650i motherboard with the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P.

I'll be running it with my Q6600 overclocked to 3.2GHz (8x400) and my 8800GTX at 600/2000.

I'm using nVidia 182.08 WHQL drivers...

[zachig]

OK...Just finished running 3DMark Vantage a got a score of P8400! :grin:

I guess it's quite good for my Q6600/8800GTX.

Here's a screenie:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3694/3dmarkvantagescore.jpg

[Dragon]

now turn off physix

[PP Mguire]

Never.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/pp_mguire/Desktops%20and%20benchmark/Vantage280sli1.jpg

[zachig]

I guess that PhysX contributes A LOT to the score, ah?

[Methious]

It adds 200 - 500 points depending. I usually report scores in reviews with and without PhysX to keep the ATI people happy.

Doesn't make much difference to me, I'm gonna have it enabled for games so it might as well be enabled in benches.

[Limbo]

Vantage was designed to use the CPU not the GPU for the PhysX processing portion of the benchmark. Any scores using NVIDIA PhysX are invalid. It is not about keeping the ATi people happy, it is about running the benchmark properly.

[Methious]

Considering I run it with and without PhysX and report both I don't see a problem with it.

It's something people are going to have to get used to.

Windows 7 will be using Parallel processing to do part of the job for the OS, does that mean in order to do anything properly we have to find a way to disable Cuda and parallel processing.

Obviously since the OS itself is going to be supporting Parallel processing on GPU's, which is the direction computing is heading, it's not going to be a level playing field if you run benches with a Cuda enabled GPU as opposed to a Non-Cuda GPU.

Only in computing do you see people freaking out about a component that takes on multiple roles. So the GPU does it's job and takes some load off the CPU. The GPU is actually working harder and making it easier on the system. That's a bad thing?

You can't cripple components and say it's entirely fair to the company that invested the time and cash to develop the technology.

In most cases build a better mouse trap the world beats a path to your door, in GPU's invent a better way to do things and ignore the capability because "it's not fair".

I don't see it, test both ways report both ways and let it go at that.

[Limbo]

All I'm saying is that Futuremark considers the scores submitted with NVIDIA PhysX enabled to be invalid as the benchmark results are acheived by thwarting the intended test of the CPU's ability to process PhysX. It is their benchmark after all, what you choose to do with your reports has no effect on what the correct way to run their benchmark is. Semantics should not be involved in a thread that is supposed to be about true/valid Vantage scores. It is not about being "fair" at all, NVIDIA's PhysX drivers corrupt the benchmark.

[Methious]

The proper way to run a benchmark, which I am somewhat of an expert on, is not to ignore a capability of a piece of equipment.

Test with and without and report both. Let the nitpickers sort out the semantics.

My nitpicker detector is going off.

[typh4u]

When running a second nvidia GPU as the dedicated PhysX card does Vantage recognize it as a PhysX only processor?

[Methious]

Vantage picks it up and uses it just like a regular GPU and it still wouldn't be a submittable score.

A regular PhysX card is the same way.

[PP Mguire]

I think the only reason people dont want us using PhysX is because of camp red. If they both had it there wouldnt be a problem and we all know this. Its not cheating, its all about who gets the highest bench no matter what. Stop whining.

[Dragon]

nope thats not it in my case. its not a true measurement of GPU power. physix is an abaility should be demonstrated? yes it should be, but does it guage the power of a GPU processing power no it dont. bc it inflates the cpu score therefore inflates the gpu scoring.

[zachig]

The proper way to run a benchmark, which I am somewhat of an expert on, is not to ignore a capability of a piece of equipment.

Test with and without and report both. Let the nitpickers sort out the semantics.

My nitpicker detector is going off.
I absoluely agree! It's really not about keeping ATI people happy...If Vantage takes advantage of nVidia PhysX, why not enable/use it in the benchmark???

[Limbo]

Firstly I am no fan of ATi cards.

Vantage never took advantage of NVIDIA PhysX though, and was never meant to. Nvidia coded their drivers after the release of Vantage to change the way the benchmark worked. It was supposed to check the CPU's ability to do PhysX processing, that is why it registers higher on the CPU test when using NVIDIA PhysX. NVIDIA had their GPU's take over the job the CPU is supposed to do in the benchmark plain and simple.

If the benchmark were originally developed to test GPU PhysX, which it never was, there would be no issue. As it stands NVIDIA PhysX falsifies the CPU scores by taking the CPU completely out of the test for that portion of the benchmark and does the rendering with it's GPU. How is inflating the score meant for a particular piece of hardware by using a totally different piece of hardware to do it's job correct? The result is a false score for the CPU in the test which translates to a false overall score.

Take a look at the Vantage results with PhysX on and off, which part of it increases the most with PhysX enabled? The CPU's correct? Did you change the CPU?


I think the only reason people dont want us using PhysX is because of camp red. If they both had it there wouldnt be a problem and we all know this. Its not cheating, its all about who gets the highest bench no matter what. Stop whining.

Run that by the world's best overclockers on HWbot and see how fast you get banned.

[Methious]

I must be on the wrong site I thought this was Bjorn.

Since Windows 7 at the core is going to use Cuda and Parallel processing by HWbot's own proclamation; "Anyone using PhysX enabled Drivers = immediate ban" anyone using Win 7 and beyond should be banned.

I don't think you should compare PhysX scores with non-PhysX scores. I don't think they should be ignored because of the growing importance of parallel processing.

If you can't see that point it's cool. Turn PhysX off uninstall the software and go about your merry way. PhysX and Cuda are a fact and as long as it's a live technology we'll deal with it.

[Limbo]

Talk to FutureMark, tell them what you want tested in a benchmark. In this case Vantage was Passe shortly after it came out I guess. It was never designed to test GPU PhysX.

Hwbot made such a proclamation? I am only aware of those caught intentionally cheating to inflate scores in benchmarks being banned.

Dealing with tech is good, never said it wasn't.

[Dragon]

the technology is great, to have. and its ati fault for not continueing with it. and if companies are going to use a peticular aspect of a computer to make work even faster and or better i am all for it. I am not just an ati fanatic or nvidia i am for the one who gives me the best for my money. ans well as the most flexability. fro someone to say ATI is all bad or nvidia is all bad or visa versa definetly has not looked at both fences and understands what both can do seperetly. nvidia can learn a thing or two from ati and ati can learn a thing or two from nvidia.

[PP Mguire]

Its not cheating and Nvidia didnt do anything wrong. PhysX, Cuda, And their parrellel processing is meant to take PhysX processing off the CPU to start with. It just so happens that it does this on Vantage but it does this on games as well. Ever tried to run a PhysX heavy game with your cpu? Dosent really work that well does it. But when you have the magial Nvidia card it works fine and dosent lag cause it takes that strain off the CPU like it was originaly intended. Vantage scores being higher is just something that happens because that is what the whole deal with Nvidia cards was intended to do. Offload PhysX processing onto the GPU.

So cheating? No, the Nvidia card just has the upper hand because of the technology implemented with it end of story.

[Methious]

Straight from HWBot http://www.hwbot.org/hwbot.post.do?postId=1038


What do we consider as illegal tweaks (instant block):
- PhysX enabled drivers
- Mipmap

Since Win 7 will be driven with PhysX and Cuda drivers that utilize the GPU for parallel processing that statement would tend to exclude the OS itself.

I do talk to Futuremark, I know the top dog. I've discussed the ruling on not displaying PhysX scores but allowing them to be submitted. We discuss what we'd like tested in benchmarking.

My problem with the entire exclusion of the PhysX scores is that it is the GPU doing the work. It's doing the work of the GPU and CPU but it's the GPU doing it. I still don't think you should compare PhysX enabled scores to non-PhysX scores.

That being said I wouldn't turn it off for the PhysX games I have in house. They look a lot better with it on than off.


Talk to FutureMark, tell them what you want tested in a benchmark. In this case Vantage was Passe shortly after it came out I guess. It was never designed to test GPU PhysX.

Hwbot made such a proclamation? I am only aware of those caught intentionally cheating to inflate scores in benchmarks being banned.

Dealing with tech is good, never said it wasn't.

[Dragon]

i am curious on how/if win 7 has that ability and how to turn it on if the OS supports it. if it does add a little bit more then how do we reconize it

[Limbo]

The GPU doing the PhysX portion of the Vantage benchmark was never meant to be, any "scores" with it enabled are invalid.

An instant block of a score is not an instant ban.


Its not cheating, its all about who gets the highest bench no matter what.

Only within the confines of the benchmark as it was intended to be run.

[PP Mguire]

It was made with PhysX in mind. So how is that not intended to be run? It still a case of non PhysX users whining because we have an upper hand and they dont. If there was no Nvidia PhysX and Ageia PhysX cards did the same thing i bet those would be considerd cheating too. It is by no means cheating, it is a means of gaining a higher score. Its all benchmarking. If you cant handle that then in the words of Wiz "GTFO"

[Limbo]

OOoooo....! Hissy fit I'm so scared :ahhhhh:, what problem do you have understanding how the benchmark is supposed to be run and what hardware component is supposed to be tested? The scores done with PhysX (i.e., done by the GPU) enabled are invalid because it is designed as a test of the CPU's abilities. Thus says Futuremark, not me. :icon_tiphat:

[Goliath182]

It was made with PhysX in mind. So how is that not intended to be run? It still a case of non PhysX users whining because we have an upper hand and they dont. If there was no Nvidia PhysX and Ageia PhysX cards did the same thing i bet those would be considerd cheating too. It is by no means cheating, it is a means of gaining a higher score. Its all benchmarking. If you cant handle that then in the words of Wiz "GTFO"
I see your point here, and I would agress, but Nvidia cards DO NOT calculate all physics. There are far more games that dont use PhysX. I would totaly agree with you if Nvidia cards did all the physics offload from the CPU. The test is supposed to caclculate how good your CPU is, not if you bought a Nvidia card or not.

[Goliath182]

Figured I might as well get in on the fray again. How you guys like my 4870 overclock? :lol:

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/goliath_182/Vantage-3.jpg

[Methious]

Beer goggles and posting unauthorized screen shots of yet to be released GPU's don't mix.

Some where around the 2nd of April I'll reapprove the post.

You know who you are. No need to go into that here.

[typh4u]

Beer goggles and posting unauthorized screen shots of yet to be released GPU's don't mix.

Some where around the 2nd of April I'll reapprove the post.

You know who you are. No need to go into that here.


You got to admit that was an impressive score. Maybe the new HD 4890

[Methious]

Yes it's an impressive score, no comment on the nomenclature of the card itself.

Yes I have one of those cards in house, review will be released to 2nd of April.

Yes I hit the same speed as the XXXXXXX card. 1Ghz and still no comment on which card.

I hate Non Disclosure agreements as much as the next guy but if your going to dance the tune you have to respect the pipers wishes.

It's not quite as impressive as the other card I also can't tell you about which turned in a healthy 12779 in vantage, with no PhysX, at stock speed. Overclocked score, yes I have one, am I going to tell you what that was, read the April 2nd articles. (Yes articles)

[typh4u]

As always I look forward to reading the articles and the reviews that are done here at Bjorn3D.




Yes it's an impressive score, no comment on the nomenclature of the card itself.

Yes I have one of those cards in house, review will be released to 2nd of April.

Yes I hit the same speed as the XXXXXXX card. 1Ghz and still no comment on which card.

I hate Non Disclosure agreements as much as the next guy but if your going to dance the tune you have to respect the pipers wishes.

It's not quite as impressive as the other card I also can't tell you about which turned in a healthy 12779 in vantage, with no PhysX, at stock speed. Overclocked score, yes I have one, am I going to tell you what that was, read the April 2nd articles. (Yes articles)

[PP Mguire]

4870 was released on the egg as of today. I think NDA dosent matter here.

[zachig]

4870 was released on the egg as of today. I think NDA dosent matter here.
I guess you meant 4890! ;-)

[Methious]

4870 was released months ago, the 4890 some vendors jumped the gun and AMD/ATI is dealing with them.

We don't break NDA for any reason, even if other vendor/sites do.

Anyone on staff doing so will have consequences to deal with.

It takes years to build trust with the vendors and we'll keep that trust one way or another.

Not even smeared out or no-nomenclature shots of unreleased hardware or benches.

Period.


4870 was released on the egg as of today. I think NDA dosent matter here.

[Goliath182]

Ill test Vantage today and post up my newest results, with Xfire 4870 and with just the 4890.

[zachig]

4870 was released months ago, the 4890 some vendors jumped the gun and AMD/ATI is dealing with them.

We don't break NDA for any reason, even if other vendor/sites do.

Anyone on staff doing so will have consequences to deal with.

It takes years to build trust with the vendors and we'll keep that trust one way or another.

Not even smeared out or no-nomenclature shots of unreleased hardware or benches.

Period.
I wonder how they'll deal with NewEgg...

Anyway, I absolutely agree. So let's keep low profile...;-)

[Goliath182]

Newegg just started to sell it today. That means they didnt break NDA.

[zachig]

Newegg just started to sell it today. That means they didnt break NDA.
Oh...:redface: OK. ;-)

[PP Mguire]

No they where selling it yesterday on the Egg.

[Goliath182]

No they where selling it yesterday on the Egg.
What time? I was on there about 8 Eastern and they didnt have anything.

[Goliath182]

4980 xfired with 4870

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/goliath_182/Vantage4890xfire.jpg

[Dragon]

not bad tony need a bit more optimizing

[zachig]

Here's my new/updated 3DMark Vantage Score of P8441:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3694/3dmarkvantagescore.jpg

[typh4u]

Just looking at Zachig and Goliath's CPU scores Vantage scores the Q6600 @3.2ghz higher than Goliaths Core i7 @3.7ghz


Zachig CPU 30649
Goliath CPU 22774

Is it because of the larger Cache size of the Kentsfield processor vs Nehalem?

[Dragon]

zachig has physix enabled system

[Goliath182]

Yea PhysX helps a lot for CPU score. Real life score hes prob sitting around 12k. With my Q9550 at 3.6 I got about 14k.

[zachig]

Yeah, I was just wondering the same myself. I guess it's the PhysX that contribues A LOT to the CPU Score.

[Methious]

PhysX pumps up the CPU score but soon it will be either more confusing or a moot point.

Intel is developing Havoc for OpenCL and all GPU's will be able to offload to the GPU with OpenCL and Havoc.

Maybe then I can stop running extra benches because people are so freaked on PhysX.


Yeah, I was just wondering the same myself. I guess it's the PhysX that contribues A LOT to the CPU Score.

[PP Mguire]

THe PhysX argument is stupid to me.