Intel price cut

[PP Mguire]

http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php?/cpu_mainboard/intel_planning_pre-nehalem_price_cuts/1

E8400 for 163? Yes please! AMD, your screwed.:ahhhhh:

[Nocutius]

AMD, your screwed.:ahhhhh:

I really wish i could prove you wrong, but i cant.

[PP Mguire]

So do i, but with the way things are looking. Intel is pulling all the stops and AMD will need a super chip that can outperform Intels offerings PLUS great overclocking at an awesome price. You see that happening anytime soon? I really dont :(

[Goliath182]

AMD is SOL unless they can pull K12 out of their @$$ and stomp Intel lol. Realistically.... there done. Now ATI might bail out AMD lol.

[PP Mguire]

I doubt it since they are basicaly the same time pulling money fromthe same pocket.

[coxmaster]

ATI might bail out AMD lol.

Highly doubtful.. it seems that the general consensus is that ATi is getting dominated by Nvidia.. I have a feeling AMD/ATi is going down fast

[bobletman]

wow intel just put some gas on amd and lit the match, they are done for.

[Methious]

Keep in mind that's not the price your going to pay that's the price Intel gives volume customers ordering in large lots.

The price you can expect to pay will depend on the greed of the etailers and with the 8400 and 8500 performing so well I don't expect them to do a rock drop on the pricing.

[PP Mguire]

Actualy considering the fact that they say the price of an e8400 right now is 266 and Newegg is selling them for 194.99 id say probably cheaper. Even bigger fire on AMD.

[coxmaster]

The company will also drop pricing for the Core 2 Duo E8500 and E8400 from US$266 and US$183 to US$183 and US$163, respectively

That means currently the 8500 is $266 and the 8400 is $183. On newegg the 8500 is $269 and the 8400 is $194.. that means there isny a huge difference in the prices. Still count on a significant drop..

[Goliath182]

Highly doubtful.. it seems that the general consensus is that ATi is getting dominated by Nvidia.. I have a feeling AMD/ATi is going down fast

Dont doubt ATI before you see the 4*** series.

[Pablo 54]

Nice. What is the best two chip MOBO out there?

[Goliath182]

Intel Skulltrail, by a large margin. It supports SLI and Crossfire-X. Be ware that you need a 771 processor not a 775. The only bad part about this board is that it uses FB DRR-2 but i believe all dual chip mobo's do.

http://techreport.com/r.x/skulltrail/skulltrail-3q.jpg

[PP Mguire]

That means currently the 8500 is $266 and the 8400 is $183. On newegg the 8500 is $269 and the 8400 is $194.. that means there isny a huge difference in the prices. Still count on a significant drop..Ahaha pwn on me. I read to fast. But, yea still should be a big price drop considering AMDs highest X2 will be more.

All server mobos use it.

[Schwarz]

AMD is stupid im Im really glad they are suffering.
AMD back in the days were the ppor mans performance chips.
My first build was with an AMD, a 1900+ if I remember correctly.
Sadly AMD wanted more and more and upped the prices.
Well they under estimated the overclocker market where Intel say an opportunity.
Its like both companies traded spaces.
Intel became the overclock friendly chips and amd went the intel way with providing almost no OC game and still sold the chips for a price they arent worth just like Intel used to do.
The only problem is that intel had the budget to make that kind of mistake and come back out from it...
Will AMD be able to follow.
And im sure this time around Intel, having the upper hand wont do AMDs stupid mistake and boost the prices because they have the upper hand.
Thats where the problem is for AMD...

[zachig]

WOW!!! That's GREAT news!!! :grin: It's good to see that also the Q6600 will have a price-drop, as I'm planning a CPU upgrade soon (in about a month or two) to replace my current E6600 and I'm aiming at the Q6600! ;-)

[Goliath182]

AMD is stupid im Im really glad they are suffering.
AMD back in the days were the ppor mans performance chips.
My first build was with an AMD, a 1900+ if I remember correctly.
Sadly AMD wanted more and more and upped the prices.
Well they under estimated the overclocker market where Intel say an opportunity.
Its like both companies traded spaces.
Intel became the overclock friendly chips and amd went the intel way with providing almost no OC game and still sold the chips for a price they arent worth just like Intel used to do.
The only problem is that intel had the budget to make that kind of mistake and come back out from it...
Will AMD be able to follow.
And im sure this time around Intel, having the upper hand wont do AMDs stupid mistake and boost the prices because they have the upper hand.
Thats where the problem is for AMD...

The problem with AMD's and overclocking is that the chip is horrible if you try to go over 3.4 Ghz with it. Its based on a chip that maxed out at about 3 Ghz so its not going to go much higher.

Take in mind that AMD didnt start out a giant. THey slowly built up and took down Intel for awhile.

[PP Mguire]

AMD is stupid im Im really glad they are suffering.
AMD back in the days were the ppor mans performance chips.
My first build was with an AMD, a 1900+ if I remember correctly.
Sadly AMD wanted more and more and upped the prices.
Well they under estimated the overclocker market where Intel say an opportunity.
Its like both companies traded spaces.
Intel became the overclock friendly chips and amd went the intel way with providing almost no OC game and still sold the chips for a price they arent worth just like Intel used to do.
The only problem is that intel had the budget to make that kind of mistake and come back out from it...
Will AMD be able to follow.
And im sure this time around Intel, having the upper hand wont do AMDs stupid mistake and boost the prices because they have the upper hand.
Thats where the problem is for AMD...To add on to what Goliath did they raised prices to meet with demand and becasue their chips where good. Any company would do this. If it wasnt for that they probably wouldnt be around right now.

[coxmaster]

Im glad to see this also.. and i hope to upgrade this summer. My only question, what should i upgrade to? My only options are an E8400 (or another 8xxx series) or the Q6600/6700, will a 45nm Duo be more benefitial than a 60nm Quad?

[Goliath182]

Im glad to see this also.. and i hope to upgrade this summer. My only question, what should i upgrade to? My only options are an E8400 (or another 8xxx series) or the Q6600/6700, will a 45nm Duo be more benefitial than a 60nm Quad?

IF your going to do some editing go with quad otherwise you might as well stick with the 8400. DOnt get a 6700 unless its the same price as a 6600, its just a waste to spend more when you can OC it yourself. It depends on what you are doing if a 45nm beats a 65nm.

PS you forgot 5nm's in the quad. :razz:

[coxmaster]

I'll probably just be using the comp for gaming and general use.. as well as folding. Will it be a significantly noticable difference between the E6550 i have now and a 8400?

[PP Mguire]

Are you overclocking your current CPU? If not then yes, if so then probably not. If you fold a quad would be more benefitial to you.

[zachig]

Im glad to see this also.. and i hope to upgrade this summer. My only question, what should i upgrade to? My only options are an E8400 (or another 8xxx series) or the Q6600/6700, will a 45nm Duo be more benefitial than a 60nm Quad?
I had the same decision to make and I've already made up my mind I'll go with the Q6600. Again, it really depends on what you're doing with your rig, but I personally thing that Q6600 will be more beneficial, especially if you gonnna overclock it, as it'll also help you more in folding and future games (who knows when??? :lol: but hopefully soon...) will support and take advantage of Quad-Core CPUs! ;-)

[Goliath182]

as it'll also help you more in folding and future games (who knows when??? :lol: but hopefully soon...) will support and take advantage of Quad-Core CPUs! ;-)

Technically new games do take advantage of quad cores but they dont do a very good job of it lol, most of the time they get lower performance if the quad is clocked lower.

[coxmaster]

Im still not sure which i'll end up going with.. realistically, both will be a performance boost but im not sure its worth it quite yet.

[zachig]

You have a similar CPU to mine (E6550 vs. E6600) and like I said, I'm planning on upgrading to Q6600 in about a month or two.

I personally think it's the right time to do it, especially after the price-drop, as the prices of Intel CPUs won't go down more than this in the near future and beside that, the more you wait, the more your current CPU will become worthless. And I don't know about you, but I'm planning (or at least hoping) to get rid of mine for a reasonable amount of money...;-)

[PP Mguire]

If you game or use stuff that takes advantage of dual core then youll most likely get more of a boost going with a higher clocked dual core. Thats why if i upgrade RIGHT NOW id get either an e8400 rig or X2 6400+. Both in the 3ghz range and i can OC to get more out of it. Since i play alot of games and do things that use dual core isntead of completely multithreaded it would be more benefitial to me to get those extra mhz in 2 cores isntead of 4.

[typh4u]

Getting back on track:icon_tiphat:


Intel is definitely putting the proverbial death squeeze on AMD. It seems AMD's top executives are running for the door, and from what their 2008 road map has shown nothing really competitive is coming down the pipeline. ATI is coming out with the 4K series of cards but with only one manufacturer offering a lifetime warranty visionsuk(-long story) its hard for me to justify switching to ATI when Nvidia and specifically XFX have been so good to me. I do hope that AMD can break free from INTEL's domination and bring out a truly competitive product..

[Goliath182]

I do hope that AMD can break free from INTEL's domination and bring out a truly competitive product..

They did it once they can do it again... just not in the foreseeable future :(

[PP Mguire]

Just takes patience. You cant always create an Athlon each time.