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Goliath182
05-22-2008, 04:05 AM
I think the case looks cool. Seems to have really good VGA cooling too. I was looking at putting my X2 in this once i get it back.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108085

http://bjorn3d.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=4&pictureid=23

http://bjorn3d.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=4&pictureid=24

werty316
05-22-2008, 04:09 AM
Not really a big fan of premodded cases. so it would be a pass for me.

PP Mguire
05-22-2008, 04:13 AM
Im not really diggin it either actualy.

Goliath182
05-22-2008, 04:21 AM
I guess its for someone who likes planes like me. I prefer the F-15 but i still like the B-2.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/bomber/b2/b2_06.jpg

joz
05-22-2008, 05:43 PM
I prefer the F-22, F-15 and WARHOGS!!!!!, dont like that case though.
All they did was add a crapy looking side-panel accessorie and raised the price.

Goliath182
05-22-2008, 06:34 PM
I just liked the style and the fact that it has VGA fans which would help me a lot when it gets SLI'd.

PP Mguire
05-22-2008, 09:33 PM
Depending on what your SLIing it wont work that well.

Goliath182
05-22-2008, 09:52 PM
Depending on what your SLIing it wont work that well.

Really ive never heard of a VGA cooling not cooling the cards down more lol.

PP Mguire
05-22-2008, 10:30 PM
Fan placement and airflow inside the case.

Sadasius
05-22-2008, 10:55 PM
I like the case except for it's size being a limiting factor for more points from me. However it looks like the side fans are in a good position for the VGA cooling and sometimes it makes all the difference in the world. The airflow is nice and simple too. Hopefully that duct on the side is filtered though. With the big fan at the back and two smaller intakes I am more then sure it is going to draw in a good amount of dust particles. I like the duct for the CPU fan. Nice touch! The only thing you may not like about this case would be the 2X80mm fans which will make some noise. Get them on a fan controller to get optimum results you can stand as they will not sound so stealthy going full pin.

Goliath182
05-22-2008, 11:09 PM
The fans could make 50db for all i care lol. If it doesnt have a filter ill add one. You cant see it in the pics but they have two holes in the back of the case to route some of the liquid cooling to the outside of the case.

@PP - The airflow will be awesome because the fans will draw in cool air and the card will expel the air out the end of the case.

Sadasius
05-22-2008, 11:20 PM
Yeah there are a lot of cases that come with those holes now for putting rads on the back. Want to know something funny? The Xaser VI I bought not too long ago is a massive case and it too had 3 sections for tube holes. Out near the PSU, out the bottom and out the back near the rear exhaust which I am turning into an intake. For the life of me cannot figure out why with a case this big would someone want to put the rad on the outside. I fit 2 GTX240's inside and that's with a push/pull fan configuration and still have room for another. Guess it's good to have as an option if I decided to use 6 rads...:lol:

I do like the style of your case though. It's sleek and clean with good air. You can really do something with this case. Maybe airbrush the stealth on the side would be cool where that duct is and cut a window into the side panel with blue lighting to make it like it is going through the sky.

Goliath182
05-23-2008, 12:14 AM
Yea i was looking at putting some blue in there. I was looking at this cooler which should light it up all by its self lol.

http://bjorn3d.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=4&pictureid=25

PP Mguire
05-23-2008, 12:53 AM
Depends on what cards you will be using. Not all cards vent out the back. And youll need more exaust fans than one 120 in the back if youll be using those 2 on the side plus 2 80s as intake. Like i said, depends all on airflow. You have to have as much as going out as you will be going in. I have 2 80s in the front and 2 80s in the back. Solid airflow. If i used the hole in the side for another 80 id have constriction inside my case becasue i cant vent enough im sucking in. Meaning my case would heat up more.

Sadasius
05-23-2008, 12:56 AM
Bah....One good 120mm is enough to exhaust. It's easier to exhaust then to take air in and not to mention he won't have many dust problems having this configuration except for side intake if not filtered.

Goliath182
05-23-2008, 01:01 AM
I know lol thats why im only getting cards that vent out of the back.

As stated by Sadasuis in Heat probs..part 2

When you have too much outtake the intake air is not doing anything as it is getting exhausted before doing what it is supposed to do which is cool things down.So I want more fans blowing in the case. The single outtake fan should be enough. A single outtake fan is always the best setup, as stated by many people.

Sadasius
05-23-2008, 01:03 AM
Not to mention you will have a PSU fan exhausting as well.

PP Mguire
05-23-2008, 01:33 AM
You cant rely on PSU fan blowing air out becasue you dont want it blowing hot air inside at that. And who said having only 1 is the best? Thats plain dumb. So your saying if i have 4 120s having only 1 120 exaust is the best? Yea, um thats stupid advice. And airflow is a science. Thats where most case manus fail at. You dont want to much air going in nor do you want to much air going out. You want an even amount of airflow going in and out so nothing either gets clogged or is vented to fast. And all that is without having to depend on dual slot coolers on video cards, or PSUs, or anything else for that matter. You have more than just cpu/video cards to worry about in there. You want enough cool air inside your case so your PSU will suck that in to cool the PSU if your like me and have a 120 sucking from the inside of your case. i forgot what else i was going to say becasue i just went to eat and left this here....crap.

Sadasius
05-23-2008, 01:39 AM
Before saying it's crap how about trying it out and see for yourself. I was not a believer either till I did it. The difference is very noticeable when you do it right. It takes planning and modding. Air escapes much more easily in a compartment smaller then the room your in to equalize air. It takes much more work to get air in there which is why people with inadequate air intake will notice temps drop a few degrees when they take their side panel off. I will show by example when my build is done! Proof is always in the pudding.

Goliath182
05-23-2008, 01:42 AM
More fans doesnt mean lower temps. I would never use more than 4 fans that have direct access to the outside of my case.

If you keep pressure up you dont need more than one outtake fan. CFM also comes into play.

Sadasius
05-23-2008, 01:48 AM
Do this test on a hot day. Stand in front of a fan....feels good now doesn't it? Now stand at the back of the fan. Does it feel just as good? Why not? It's moving the same air. It is even worse in a closed environment such as a computer case. Your sweat on your skin is your heat sink. The air blowing across your skin makes the water molecules that have heat from your body be taken away from the movement of air (evaporation). So why doesn't this work on the back side? Why would this not suck heat away from your body? Think about it and read up on thermal dynamics. Having air blowing past heat sinks is what helps move heat from components. The faster it is done the more heat you move keeping components cooler. It's not rocket science!

PP Mguire
05-23-2008, 08:02 PM
Which is exactly why i said you need the same amount of air going in as you do going out to keep up that airflow. Duh.

Sadasius
05-23-2008, 09:45 PM
Which is exactly why i said you need the same amount of air going in as you do going out to keep up that airflow. Duh.

Your exactly right actually but the part your not understanding is the mechanics to achieve that. You need more intake fans then exhaust fans because your squeezing air from a bigger volume (your room) into a smaller volume (computer case). So essentially you need at least twice as many intake fans then exhaust fans to have equalized air flow.

This will be the last I talk about this subject as there is not enough data and only people who have actually done it know the difference. So I am not going to waste my breath on it anymore. I'll save it for my case...:lol: