Next car

[Miker]

I finally decided what my next car will be, I was thinking a Acura NSX for awhile but decided on a 1998 Ferrari 456 GTA.

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=481793

[Goliath182]

Or get a Corvette Z06 and totally own that car.

[Miker]

Ferrari > all. It is a 430HP V12 you know.

[PP Mguire]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V6msows8d0&feature=related

1100hp V8. ROFL

430 all that V12 has? Really? My dads little 289 hipo was dyno pushing 463 before he let it sit with a 2 barrell intake with 1.5" pipes that where choking the thing. When im doen with it, he says it will probably be pushing around 615. Of course when im done it DEFF wont be stock anymore hehe.

[Goliath182]

And thats with 93 octane. It does 1300 hp at 21 psi of boost on race gas. But it does cost more than your Farrari, but for the same price you can get a brand new vette Z06 that GM says has 505 hp but it makes more than that. Kind of like the old trans ams that had about 400 but were rated for 200 something.

Detroit thunder beats Euro purr any day.

[Miker]

ROFL, are you guys really saying a ford or a Chevy is better then a Ferrari? Top speed and HP doesn't matter, you buy a Ferrari to have a Ferrari.

[Goliath182]

I dont buy a car to make up for what i dont have, because i have it. :dielaffin:

I buy a car to beat anyone in a race.

[Goliath182]

I dont buy a car to make up for what i dont have, because its not small. :dielaffin:

I buy a car to beat anyone in a race.

[PP Mguire]

I could care less about Ferarri. Not when i can have something that sounds better, looks better, and goes faster for alot less. And actualy i have never been one to like Ferarris. Ive been into Lambos but not those.

[darkorb]

You buy a Ferrari for the passion of the car.

[Miker]

Look how much effort goes into making one, hand cast parts... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cN-ogN6wIk

Sounds better then any Mustang, V12 with 4valves/cylinder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuSdFQzDANw

*Sad Face*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKLcKnv1-kE

[PP Mguire]

Meh. Precaution, this could be the alcohol talking.

[srpeters18]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_0_6n5uoU4

And who said Ford can't make a faster car than Lamborghini?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VLoTBq7c1A&feature=related

[PP Mguire]

Ahaha here we go again.

[Miker]

How many of these are 4 seaters? How many have a trunk? How many are a Ferrari?

[srpeters18]

How many Ferrari's are overpriced? ;-)

Seriously, you can't beat American cars for dollar per horsepower.

[PP Mguire]

That vette if you read has both the passenger seat and back seats as well as AC and everything else. Doing 1100hp. And most likely way cheaper than your Ferarri.

[Miker]

I can get a 456 for 60-75k. That is a 98-2000.

[srpeters18]

You can get a GT500 for around $50k. That leaves $10-25k for aftermarket and customization. Not saying I wouldn't love to have a Ferrari, don't get me wrong, but bang for the buck is pretty big in my book too. And have you ever looked at maintenance costs on a Ferrari? Parts aren't generally kept on hand, they're shipped from Italy. Even getting tires changed on it is ridiculous.

[PP Mguire]

2006 z06 can be had for 65800.

[Miker]

The 456 is one of the most reliable Ferraris ever. I would get the GTA, so no *Sneeze*$6,000*Cough* clutch for me to burn out. And yes they had custom tires made for it that are *Sneeze*$1,200*Cough* each, and yes air filters are *Sneeze*$210*Cough* each.

*Edit* Did I mention that it has 2 air filters?

[PP Mguire]

Lol and you want that car why? Damn replacing STOCK parts cost more than aftermarket. Screw the name man, get something better.

[Miker]

I want a Ferrari, that is my dream.

[PP Mguire]

Your "dream" is gonna cost you more than a house in a short period of time.

[Goliath182]

Lol wow Miker you must be missing part of your brain. Look at the cost of those parts. Your GTO isn't even that old i don't get why your getting a new car already. For way cheaper you could put some performance parts on that and beat the Ferrari in anything.

Personally i hate the sound of those. Sounds like their running on 2 cyls.

My statement still stands, Detroit thunder over Euro purr.

[darkorb]

Miker i can see you wanting a Ferrari in youre lifetime, but it is not an everyday car. Replacing those parts will cost you and at youre age it is not smart to buy a ferrari, it will cost you a **** load.

Srpeters, yea american cars have the best price/hp ratio, but when you look at it, a 200HP german car can beat a 300HP american car. It isnt all about the HP.

The Dodge viper has a 8.4l V10 and produces 600HP. Dont get me wrong, the viper is one of my favourite cars, but then look at a BMW m5 5L V10 with 500 HP. Americans needed 3.4L to make 100 more HP?

Americans like their muscle, but the engineering isnt up to par thats why they need those monster sized engines to produce the amount of horsepower.

['Amp!']

Top speed and HP doesn't matter, you buy a Ferrari to have a Ferrari.

Right, not to drive one just to have one. Anyone who owns a Ferrari doesn't drive it all that often because it isn't really meant for driving.

If you're buying it to OWN it then that's cool but if you're buying it drive it all the time then that's silly.

[Miker]

Right, not to drive one just to have one. Anyone who owns a Ferrari doesn't drive it all that often because it isn't really meant for driving.

If you're buying it to OWN it then that's cool but if you're buying it drive it all the time then that's silly.

I have a GTO, I just want a Ferrari to put like 250-500 miles a year on. Also the 456 is not a race car, it is a reliable 4 seater like a Porsche Cayenne or something of that nature, it can be a daily driver if you want it to be.

[PP Mguire]

Srpeters, yea american cars have the best price/hp ratio, but when you look at it, a 200HP german car can beat a 300HP american car. It isnt all about the HP.

The Dodge viper has a 8.4l V10 and produces 600HP. Dont get me wrong, the viper is one of my favourite cars, but then look at a BMW m5 5L V10 with 500 HP. Americans needed 3.4L to make 100 more HP?Rofl thats cause your looking at the wrong cars buddy.

[srpeters18]

Yeah, like my co-workers GT500. Stock its a 5.4l V8 with 500hp and 504 lbft of torque. With the pipes, pulleys and programmer its at 586 and will smoke that BMW any day of the week. Plus there isn't a sound on earth like the one that blower makes.

Two weeks ago we hit 150mph on the highway in 4th gear. Still had some pedal left and two more gears to go through.

[darkorb]

Their nice cars, but nothing like the build quality of German cars.

[PP Mguire]

You pay out the ass for VW and Porche parts though.

[darkorb]

You get what you pay for.

[Miker]

Yeah, like my co-workers GT500. Stock its a 5.4l V8 with 500hp and 504 lbft of torque.

They dyno at more like 440 though stock, and I doubt pipes pulleys and a program will gain 140HP.

And about German cars, they are nice for the first year. My uncle has 2 AMGs, and he blows so much money in upkeep it is not even funny. They are so fancy, so much stuff to break. I would love to have a R32 Rabbit/Golf though.

[srpeters18]

They dyno at more like 440 though stock, and I doubt pipes pulleys and a program will gain 140HP.

And about German cars, they are nice for the first year. My uncle has 2 AMGs, and he blows so much money in upkeep it is not even funny. They are so fancy, so much stuff to break. I would love to have a R32 Rabbit/Golf though.

Well that's funny, cause that's what he got off the dyno. Those cars dyno stock at 500 rwhp, not engine.

[Miker]

Well that's funny, cause that's what he got off the dyno. Those cars dyno stock at 500 rwhp, not engine.

So you saying 500rwhp 440 off the engine?

[PP Mguire]

You get what you pay for.Not exactly.

[srpeters18]

So you saying 500rwhp 440 off the engine?

No, I'm saying you were mistaken. His car has been on the dyno here, and it came out at 586. As recruiters, we go to all the high schools, colleges, and tech schools, among other places, so we meet people. Like instructors at tech schools that when they see you are driving a GT500 ask you if they can put it on the dyno.

[Miker]

No, I'm saying you were mistaken. His car has been on the dyno here, and it came out at 586. As recruiters, we go to all the high schools, colleges, and tech schools, among other places, so we meet people. Like instructors at tech schools that when they see you are driving a GT500 ask you if they can put it on the dyno.

Well it is common fact that the new GT500 is slower then it should be, and is around 440RWhp. Even PP would agree on that.

[PP Mguire]

Believe it or not sure do. But hey 440 stock is nothing to squak at guys. My dads 289 stock was like 263 or something like that.

[Miker]

See, I can't hit on a Saleen Mustang, or Rouch, they might not have as much engine as a GT500, or even a GTO for that matter but they are tuned right. The new GT500 is just a regular Mustang GT with some cool paint and a big engine.

[srpeters18]

See, I can't hit on a Saleen Mustang, or Rouch, they might not have as much engine as a GT500, or even a GTO for that matter but they are tuned right. The new GT500 is just a regular Mustang GT with some cool paint and a big engine.

And a different suspension, and brakes. And a big blower on the different engine. Saleen and Rousch are kits for a GT. Shelby is far more different than the other two, mechanically at least. I mean, you don't get the body kits that you do with the other kits, but they're not limited run either, anybody that can afford one can own one. Shelby's are quite limited in number.

[Miker]

GT500s have the same suspension and brakes as a Mustang GT. The others might have smaller engines, but they are better because they are tuned, not just a big engine in a shell that can't handle it.

[Goliath182]

You have more head room with a bigger engine, but youd never change anything on it so that doesnt matter.

[srpeters18]

GT500s have the same suspension and brakes as a Mustang GT. The others might have smaller engines, but they are better because they are tuned, not just a big engine in a shell that can't handle it.

No, it doesn't.

The GT500's suspension is lower than a Mustang GT's, and uses recalibrated front and rear shocks, upgraded front and rear stabilizer bars and revised spring rates. The key to the GT500's three-link architecture, according to Ford, is the Panhard rod that provides precise control over the rear axle. It's centrally located and fastened to the upper front end of the differential, while trailing arms are located near each end of the axle.

Source
(http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=105085)

[Miker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0s4OAMISN4

[Goliath182]

A Mustang as KITT who thought of that? :flag_bs:

[borschtBomber[SS]]

Well I should be getting my new toy/car here within the next two weeks. I'll post pics of it when I get it in hand. Its an 07 Mustang GT California Special. :)

I've owned a VW and never will again thanks to the rediculous prices you pay for parts..so you can honestly keep your German cars. :P

[PP Mguire]

Tell that to Darkorb lol. Congrats on your purchase of the Mustang btw.

[darkorb]

got 4 year warranty so.

my cousin has a audi, and my other cousin has had a VW for almost 15 years. First the beetle and now a GTI.

[borschtBomber[SS]]

I'm not saying they aren't nice....I've just known too many to have a lot of problems. VW/Audi's tend to top the list with needing repairs and they aren't cheap to repair either.

[srpeters18]

Yep. Local firestone wanted to charge a girl I know $900 to change out the power steering pump on her late model Beetle.

[borschtBomber[SS]]

haha ouch...though I don't trust any Firestone store as far as I can throw them.

[borschtBomber[SS]]

Well signed for and brought her home today. 2007 Mustang GT California Special :)

http://cryo-laboratory.com/uploader/files/2/stang%20001_thumb.jpg
(http://cryo-laboratory.com/uploader/files/2/stang%20001.jpg)

http://cryo-laboratory.com/uploader/files/2/stang%20002_thumb.jpg
(http://cryo-laboratory.com/uploader/files/2/stang%20002.jpg)

[Miker]

What is a Calli Special? Slow as hell but nice inside?

[borschtBomber[SS]]

Basically a loaded GT with some different visual addons and 18" wheels.

[Miker]

They look way better with out the stupid hoodscoops, good choice.

[PP Mguire]

I saw a stupid spoiled blonde teenager driving a 2007 GT500 yesterday. I wanted to slap her one for the way she was driving it. I could hear gears grinding inside the Waffle House.