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Scott
07-01-2008, 09:14 PM
Well the big three and even Toyota and getting big drops in sales do to gas prices. I just have to wonder if the SUV would of never been made would we have half the gas problems we have today?

What are you thoughts about this?

Goliath182
07-01-2008, 09:47 PM
I think some people think they need SUV's when they really dont. Trucks have a lot of uses, it certainly can do things a normal car cant. You cant blame vehicles for gas problems. The automakers should be focusing more hydrogen, and other alturnative fuels.

Instigator AG
07-01-2008, 10:09 PM
Now would be a great time to open a Truck rental store. There are many people trading their trucks in for a car and will sooner or later need a truck for one reason or another.

Miker
07-01-2008, 10:54 PM
Every one should just drive a 2006 GTO and drive over 90MPH and get 30MPG.

AJ.
07-01-2008, 11:13 PM
Every one should just drive a 2006 GTO and drive over 90MPH and get 30MPG.

Or you could get a small Corrolla or Sentra and do that all day driving safely. :lol:

Andrew1990
07-01-2008, 11:25 PM
Or you could get a small Corrolla or Sentra and do that all day driving safely. :lol:


Or get a moped that gets 50mpg and can drive 35mph.......



I wonder if we will ever go back to the horse and carriages of the past? Would make some since......

PP Mguire
07-02-2008, 12:02 AM
The automakers should be focusing more hydrogen, and other alturnative fuels.Oh yea lets drive rolling hydrogen bombs lol. Something goes wrong BOOM.

Yea, i saw this coming. My sister is getting rid of her truck too since we arent doing the pro audio business anymore.

Null
07-02-2008, 12:29 AM
I firmly believe that the SUV craze has contributed to our current gas problems.

We have three parties involved here:

The Consumer

The Product

The Manufacturer

slugbug
07-02-2008, 02:30 AM
Just look at how many people buy 4x4s for the look and never take them off-roading. Most people could get by with a smaller fuel efficient vehicle but choose to drive gas guzzling boats that barely get 20mpg.

Kougar
07-02-2008, 02:47 AM
Well the big three and even Toyota and getting big drops in sales do to gas prices. I just have to wonder if the SUV would of never been made would we have half the gas problems we have today?

What are you thoughts about this?

Well, their more efficient vehicles are seeing gains... the only problem was car manufacturers made their bread & butter from SUV and truck sales... one quote I found from way back in 2003 states:

Manufacturers generally make 15% to 20% in profit on an SUV, compared with only 3% or less on a car, according to Michael Flynn, director of the University of Michigan Office for the Study of Automotive Transportation. Link (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030224-423464,00.html)

My opinion is yes, even without SUV's and Suburbans and Hummers and pickups we'd still have gotten into this problem, it may have only taken a little longer. I say that because if people were driving more efficient vehicles, they'd also likely be driving even more often and driving longer distances because they could afford to, or generally just being less concerned about wasting fuel.

The last oil to gasoline refinery was built 32 years ago... not that that matters much since there is only a finite number of places to get the oil from to refine to begin with. If we can't drill for our own oil to increase the available supply to keep pace with our own ever increasing demand, then the writing was on the wall a long time ago.

Goliath182
07-02-2008, 03:10 AM
Oh yea lets drive rolling hydrogen bombs lol. Something goes wrong BOOM.
Thats ignorance. Gasoline blows up pretty easy. With the right design hydrogen can be safer than gasoline.

PP Mguire
07-02-2008, 05:47 AM
It was a joke.

Goliath182
07-02-2008, 05:51 AM
My bad didnt know you were joking. :ahhhhh:

srpeters18
07-02-2008, 09:37 AM
Actually, nuclear power to reduce our oil consumption for energy production combined with drilling in currently protected areas and some new refineries would ease many, many of our current oil troubles. But now its too late, it'd take another 10 years to notice most of the effects. Thanks environmentalists!!

Enigmachine
07-02-2008, 01:10 PM
It's not the first gas crisis, so it's not like people were not warned or didn't know. Everybody knew that gasoline is a limited ressource ever since, what, the first satellite pictures? World War II? Everybody knows that most countries' main interest in the middle east is for gas. Yet SUVs, 4x4 and other gas guzzlers were still built. Even worse, people bought them.

It's like going to a salad bar knowing there's only so much salad available, so you bring a bigger bowl. It's a normal, emotionally immature response, and a lot of people do it. It only makes it worst for everyone...

And the situation is just going to get worse, do you know how many fuel-powered cars China is going to buy in the next 10 years?! It makes the whole SUV debate look like a drop of water in the ocean.

So I say let's build luxury alternative-power vehicles and sell them to the Chinese... Everybody wins. :)

borschtBomber[SS]
07-02-2008, 04:10 PM
Umm, if you guys think SUV's and trucks are causing the gas prices to rise you are way off the mark....the US isn't exactly the one driving prices up with demand. ;)

jellyrole
07-02-2008, 04:16 PM
Soccer moms have contributed to this by buying the biggest vehicle possible that's not a truck. I mean come on..get a ****in mini van instead of a huge SUV to carry your 1 kid around.

Null
07-02-2008, 04:16 PM
It's the triumvirate of Evil:

India

China

Gas Hogs

Gizmo-guy
07-02-2008, 09:40 PM
I have to admit I own a SUV. If I didn't drive 18 miles on back country roads to work I would never have purchased it. In the winter the drifts can be rather large, as I live in an area where corn fields are everywhere. All that open fields on both sides of the road in the winter leaves nothing to block the wind. I dislike filling up the tank, but with gas prices as they are I do A LOT LESS driving around, only when I need to go somewhere.

PP Mguire
07-02-2008, 10:34 PM
Ill worry about oil when it isnt still gushing outa the land over there.