View Full Version : 2 more telling nvidia to stick it ..
Raptorfury
07-23-2008, 08:50 AM
now i am not if this 100% yet but if it is this is defienetly goin to hurt .. like gainward/Palit and inno3d leaving nvidia rumor has it XFX and Evga are following suit as well ... according to the article there not goin to Ati tho . Here (http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/21/two-nvidia-partners-defect)
srpeters18
07-23-2008, 09:08 AM
I would take anything you get from Inquirer with a grain of salt.
PP Mguire
07-23-2008, 10:24 AM
No, a large bucket of salt. XFX has always been Nvidia and i doubt they will change now.
bobletman
07-23-2008, 02:17 PM
Wow, I never believe what the inquirer say they are always wrong. And that would be such a bad move on XFX's part if they left they would lose so much money.
Scott
07-23-2008, 02:21 PM
Both EVGA and XFX have been with NVIDIA over 9 years. I do not believe they would jump ship.
There is no promise the Intel GPU will be worth any thing so would be silly to jump ship for an unproven product.
Sadasius
07-23-2008, 03:13 PM
That is a bunch of BS. No salt needed to be taken!!! :lol:
Methious
07-23-2008, 04:31 PM
The Inquirer don't they do like Alien baby and 3 legged cow stories?
Intels coming with a new GPU, they've been leaking it for months and months, they have the money to do it right and their talking Ray Tracing replacing Rasterization.
They have a demo on UTube:
Intel Ray Tracing Demo Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blfxI1cVOzU)
Don't know if it's going to be better/worse who's going to move to it but they have massive money to throw at it and can optimize the GPU for their chips easily. Might end up being Intel GPUs for Intel CPUs with Intel Chip sets.
Then they change the name to Umbrella Cooperation and the next thing you know we got blood sucking zombie computers roaming the streets.
coxmaster
07-23-2008, 05:38 PM
Umm.. you guys havent looked at much tech news recently have you. The Inquirer is a legitamate technology new source. Its not affiliated with the other Inquirer.
I still dont believe it though
typh4u
07-23-2008, 06:24 PM
Then they change the name to Umbrella Cooperation and the next thing you know we got blood sucking zombie computers roaming the streets.
LOL that would be awesome!!!
bobletman
07-23-2008, 06:29 PM
LOL that would be awesome!!!
Youd think so at first, until you relize your computer killed your entire family and is watching you while you sleep.
Raptorfury
07-23-2008, 06:46 PM
Both EVGA and XFX have been with NVIDIA over 9 years. I do not believe they would jump ship.
There is no promise the Intel GPU will be worth any thing so would be silly to jump ship for an unproven product.
gainward been with them for bout just as long as evga . and they jumped ship . intels gpu i seriously doubt will make any major head way against ati and nvidia . even if intel stops supporting multi gpus on there chips and limits it to there own , it would seriously hurt intel's profit margin on that front .
typh4u
07-23-2008, 06:55 PM
Youd think so at first, until you relize your computer killed your entire family and is watching you while you sleep.
Damn Bobletman you make me want to pump some 3inch slugs into my computer right now.
tyle6
07-23-2008, 08:29 PM
LOL there something wrong with a couple of you!!
Quote:Originally Posted by bobletman
Youd think so at first, until you relize your computer killed your entire family and is watching you while you sleep.
Damn Bobletman you make me want to pump some 3inch slugs into my computer right now.
I cant see these guys being the ones to jump ship when they pretty much are the major Nvidia retailers in NA. now maybe the them taking on both companies cards I could see... I just might like that...
ASUS MSI and GIGABYTE already do why not XFX and EVGA?
coxmaster
07-23-2008, 08:31 PM
I dont honestly see either company switching at all. Everybody seems happy as it is.
Sadasius
07-23-2008, 09:45 PM
Then they change the name to Umbrella Cooperation and the next thing you know we got blood sucking zombie computers roaming the streets.
I would have him on a chain and would pet him, squeeze him and call him George and feed him people starting with my neighbors. I fully support this direction! :icon_tiphat:
Kougar
07-24-2008, 12:54 AM
Both EVGA and XFX have been with NVIDIA over 9 years. I do not believe they would jump ship.
There is no promise the Intel GPU will be worth any thing so would be silly to jump ship for an unproven product.
Agreed.
Intel's "GPU" has turned into a 300watt behemoth that currently requires a 12-layer PCB to even work, and I believe that was at 45nm. They can't exactly die-shrink it to fix their power and PCB complexity issues if so... it would made the GTX 280 look like a budget card in terms of cost of production and final MSRP. No one would be able to afford it except for commercial uses, which is what may end up occuring at the rate they are going with Larrabee. So no one is going to be "jumping ship" to Intel...
Sadasius
07-24-2008, 01:00 AM
Agreed.
Intel's "GPU" has turned into a 300watt behemoth that currently requires a 12-layer PCB to even work, and I believe that was at 45nm. They can't exactly die-shrink it to fix their power and PCB complexity issues if so... it would made the GTX 280 look like a budget card in terms of cost of production and final MSRP. No one would be able to afford it except for commercial uses, which is what may end up occuring at the rate they are going with Larrabee. So no one is going to be "jumping ship" to Intel...
Do you have a link for those details as I cannot find details like that but instead older news with slide presentations.
***EDIT*** Found a picture of the proposed card however.
http://www.custompc.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_190/it_photo_95262_26.jpg
3991vhtes
07-24-2008, 02:41 AM
Well, I hope this is just BS from the inq.
I just started my build and I want XFX NVIDIA products!
bobletman
07-24-2008, 02:54 AM
It most likely is BS, there have been so so so many times the inquirer has been completely wrong.
PP Mguire
07-24-2008, 03:34 AM
The Inquirer is a legitamate technology new source. Its not affiliated with the other Inquirer. Theres only one, and they are straight BS.
coxmaster
07-24-2008, 03:39 AM
Theres only one, and they are straight BS.
Sorry.. i really dont like making people look dumb but i have to point this out. The Inquirer is NOT IN PRINT. They do not have any printed publications in your supermarkets, thats The National Inquirer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Inquirer) The inquirer however is a Technology news site: The Inquirer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_inquirer)
werty316
07-24-2008, 03:46 AM
The INQ = a big bag of salt.
trueg50
07-24-2008, 03:49 AM
Nope.
I believe the thought was in response to EVGA removing the "SLI" section of their forum (no one posted in it).
http://evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=466366&mpage=3 (http://evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=466366&mpage=3)
It is more crap from INQ in their latest Nvidia flogging campaign.
I used to really respect them, but lately Charlie (I think he's the one that pulls pure Nvidia hate out of his bum) keeps posting barely believable stories out left and right.
PP Mguire
07-24-2008, 06:50 AM
The inquirer however is a Technology news site: The InquirerNot to make people look intirely stupid but thats exactly the site were talking about.
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/21/two-nvidia-partners-defect
coxmaster
07-24-2008, 06:55 AM
Not to make people look intirely stupid but thats exactly the site were talking about.
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/21/two-nvidia-partners-defect
Apparently you didnt see what i was referring to..
The Inquirer don't they do like Alien baby and 3 legged cow stories
That is the kind of responses i was trying to disprove..
PP Mguire
07-24-2008, 11:38 AM
That was a joke to the fact that they are all rumours and nothing more.
Raptorfury
07-24-2008, 09:42 PM
according to fudzilla this is also true Here (http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8544&Itemid=38) but they are moving over to Intels video card . . all i am gonna say is it better be something bc otherwise any one who moved over to intels larrabee is gonna get Stomped .....
lil info bout intels larrabee ..
Here (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-9985097-64.html)
Here (http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/18/intel-details-the-larrabee-next-gen-hybrid-cpu-gpu/)
Here ( wikipedia ) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larrabee_(GPU))
Here (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/06/intel_visualization/)
just for info sake this was bout XFX & Evga's ditching Nvidia . wether or not they goin to or not goin too is still up in the air . from the recent moves from nvidia pricing agreement has seriously hurt its distributors partners . thats y Palit/Gainward and inno3d moved over to the red team . it was not economically sound to stay with just nvidia ( facts are facts cant deny it ) . my self i dont really care who source you trust , all i did was found a good article and posted it here so everyone can see whats goin on .
PP Mguire
07-24-2008, 10:17 PM
I think we may be over looking somethign here. They may just be partnering with ATi as well instead of just dropping Nvidia completely. Sorta like what Asus is doing. But i still think this wont happen.
Raptorfury
07-24-2008, 11:04 PM
it could be , but i dont think they be goin to ati , but again relying on a video card thats not even out ( larrabee ) isnt exactly a smart move either . its still way to early to see if they do go with larrabee bc it wont be ready till later part of 09 or the beginning of 2010 . and from what i read on the larrabee its based off a cpu more then a GPU . but either way for 4 companies that used to be solely Nvidia to suddenly embrace Nvidias competitor to sell there card but still sell nvidia hardware got to be saying something . msi , asus , gigabyte never said they will sell just one companies gpu .
coxmaster
07-24-2008, 11:05 PM
Is it possible that Intel would contract out making their motherboards??
Too much confusion. I say we nuke'm all and start fresh. :lol:
Miker
07-24-2008, 11:38 PM
Is it possible that Intel would contract out making their motherboards??
Um, they already do?
typh4u
07-24-2008, 11:38 PM
This is exactly what Charlie thrives on. He is nothing but a drama queen. Right now Charlie is sitting back laughing his buttocks off laughing at all the threads about how XFX and EVGA are leaving Nvidia.
coxmaster
07-25-2008, 12:07 AM
Um, they already do?
Wow sorry.. completely spaced out when i posted that. For some reason i thought they didnt.
:magic:
jellyrole
07-25-2008, 02:19 AM
You were probably trying to say contract them out to XFX or EVGA possibly.
coxmaster
07-25-2008, 03:04 AM
Yeh i was thinkin something along those lines.. I personally think it would be cool is XFX made intel mobos AS WELL AS Nvidia, but i dont see that happening
PP Mguire
07-25-2008, 03:11 AM
I was gonna say i thought they already did but thinking about it ive never seen an XFX X38/48 ect. Yea i think they should.
Miker
07-25-2008, 07:07 AM
I was gonna say i thought they already did but thinking about it ive never seen an XFX X38/48 ect. Yea i think they should.
If XFX made a x48, I would've gotten it. Long as it wasn't a 750i POS.
Raptorfury
07-25-2008, 07:15 AM
but the x38/x48 is Ati crossfire supported not sli supported . the x58 will have both sli and crossfire support which is an entirely different socket .
srpeters18
07-25-2008, 07:31 AM
Haven't heard anything about x58 supporting SLI. Did I miss that somewhere? Last I heard Nvidia and Intel were going to battle to the death.
PP Mguire
07-25-2008, 11:33 AM
Because of the chipset wars Nvidia is thinking about dropping outa the chipset making business. So they will be putting the n200 chip on the X58 for SLI support.
Scott
07-25-2008, 12:23 PM
and the X58 with the SLI chips on them maybe sold only thru XFX, EVGA's and BFG since they support NVIDIA cards already. This would then put all that support on these vendors that already have to support the cards and give Intel clean hands.
Ever thought about that? That could be what this has all been about when Charlie hears a rumour of these folks signing stuff with Intel.
Raptorfury
07-25-2008, 07:42 PM
its possible but , from what i reading it has nothing to do with mb's but video cards . and with nvidias current agreements with there partner's bout pricing , makes it a bit more believeable . not to mention they allready had 2 other members start selling competitor products .
PP Mguire
07-25-2008, 08:02 PM
The other 2 companies may have started selling ATI products but i know Gainward still sells Nvidia products too. Just dropping Nvidia would be a stupid business move.
Raptorfury
07-25-2008, 11:00 PM
and apprently counting only on Nvidia sales wasnt a smart move either .... personally i think it would be a good idea for the other companies to try out other gpu chips , you would get a much higher robust market with gpu's mainboards etc. now if only gainward sold here in the states :( ......
PP Mguire
07-26-2008, 03:05 AM
yea i remember back in teh day how i wanted their Gainward 7800GS Golden Sample. It was a 7800GTX in AGP format for real.
Raptorfury
07-26-2008, 03:27 AM
i owned a gainward 5700 ultra , and man i will say this bout that card even tho it was considered nvidias gaggle fook of a card that lil thing seriously whooped some booty . of coarse that was just before gainward moved from taiwon to europe and they sold cards here in the states .. after they did that i seriously lost most of my interest in nvidia :( i used leadtek 6800le card and a evga 8800gts 320 . while both performed very well i still wondered only if i had a gainward what could i do .........
PP Mguire
07-26-2008, 07:18 AM
Actualy the FX5800ultra was the one that was horrible. I had an FX5700ultra myself and it was actualy pretty decent.
typh4u
07-26-2008, 07:54 AM
I think I slept through the FX series.
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