Newegg has the best 478 Mobo.

[Miker]

$49, DDR2, PCI-e 16x.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130178

[joz]

eww...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138079

biostar = better

[slugbug]

Could be the base for a cheap GPU folding rig if you already have a socket 478 cpu lying around.

I'd go with the MSI with Intel chip set over the Biostar which has a Via chip set.

[Miker]

North Bridge Intel 945GC
South Bridge Intel ICH7

You can't get better then that.

[Sadasius]

$49, DDR2, PCI-e 16x.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130178

Good find! That would make for a cheap folding machine. Just throw a GTX260 on the sucker and forget about it.

[tyle6]

Really! lol, To bad they dont ship to canada or i would get one of these for that price to replace and aging 478 board!!

[Miker]

This chipset is the best 478 chipset + it has ddr2 and PCI-e. MSI is a good company too.

They have open box for a little over $30.

You are talking $700 w/ OS for a GTX260 rig... I just priced it out on newegg.

[PP Mguire]

478 P4 ftl though.

[TunedFish]

Interesting find. I have 2 478 chips, so I might get one now that the good pci-e express vid cards are cheap.

[Goliath182]

Good find! That would make for a cheap folding machine. Just throw a GTX260 on the sucker and forget about it.

Too bad P4s are horrible, or you could do something else on that.

[Robfactory]

I remember my first 478, it was a P4 1.4ghz.
It was in a Dell Dimension 8100.
that thing had Rambus Ram and it lasted me 2 yrs.

[Miker]

A 3.0Ghz Prescott is still a great chip.

[trueg50]

A 3.0Ghz Prescott is still a great chip.

Quite true.

Plus it is fine for keeping an 8800GTS folding merrily along.

I still want to get a nice little pico-ATX Atom board (or Merom) and slap a gargantuan 9800GX 2 on it; even if it is just borrowed stuff, I think it would be hilarious.

[tyle6]

ROFL, I have a micro ATX 754 board running a 2ghz athlon i could strap my 9800GTX into for yea if you really wanna see something like that!

[Miker]

ROFL, I have a micro ATX 754 board running a 2ghz athlon i could strap my 9800GTX into for yea if you really wanna see something like that!

Look, the reason this board is good as that you can make a small folding rig with leftover parts. Who doesn't have a P4 and some DDR2?

[Sadasius]

Exactly...I have a couple P4 chips lying around and DDR2 ram is cheap as snot. Would make for a good folding machine for sure. I have a spare micro tower case too that just sitting in the closet that would be perfect for this.....Is there anyone on here that can purchase this for me and I can pay them to have it shipped here to Canada with an extra bonus $20 for themselves? I will pay for the entire cost and shipping. Will cost you nothing and you gain $20 ta boot. I will make a folding rig out of it for our team.

[PP Mguire]

Plus it is fine for keeping an 8800GTS folding merrily along. Bout all its good for. Since i have only DDR laying around i wouldnt waste the DDR2 i do have on a P4. If i used the cpu to fold id have an oven in the summer.

[Miker]

Bout all its good for. Since i have only DDR laying around i wouldnt waste the DDR2 i do have on a P4. If i used the cpu to fold id have an oven in the summer.

Stop hitting on P4s, it is annoying. Sadasius and I both have had really good P4 rigs in the past, and we have both moved on to newer stuff but we would never say a P4 can't be great. A new hyper 3Ghz + P4 works great, and you know that a 7950GT is still a decent card.

[Sadasius]

Well I don't need the P4 to do anything really. Folding will be just on the card and not the CPU. The GTX 260 offloads work from the CPU so I think it will be good to just do some folding on a rig like this. I am not going to use the rig for anything else. Just going to turn it on and shove it the corner somewhere and once in a while clean the dust filters.

[PP Mguire]

Stop hitting on P4s, it is annoying. Sadasius and I both have had really good P4 rigs in the past, and we have both moved on to newer stuff but we would never say a P4 can't be great. A new hyper 3Ghz + P4 works great, and you know that a 7950GT is still a decent card.I know this. Just look at the argument me and Frag had recently on GRID running on an AGP system with a P4 3.0ghz. I actualy have not just 1 but 2 P4s sitting in my closet. I cant do anything with them becasue the Athlons i have laying around are better. And nobody wants to buy the P4s either.

[Miker]

You prob have some of the older P4, have you ever had one of the newer ones?

4x Sata 3gbs. Just saw that, highspeed. :lol:

[Sadasius]

I know this. Just look at the argument me and Frag had recently on GRID running on an AGP system with a P4 3.0ghz. I actualy have not just 1 but 2 P4s sitting in my closet. I cant do anything with them becasue the Athlons i have laying around are better. And nobody wants to buy the P4s either.

Well if your not going to use that P4 3.0 that I sent you just send it back and I will slap it in this rig for folding then and make use of it.

[Miker]

What is the best P4 you have? I have an extra 2.8GHz Hyper laying around.3

[Sadasius]

Well I have the hyper 3.2 but that rig is going to used for a server soon. The other P4 I have is a none hyper 1.8. Slow as crap but will still work in this as it will only be folding. I gave PP my other P4 hyper 3.0 because he said he needed it for a folding machine. That's why I asked if he was not going to use it I would.

[Goliath182]

You prob have some of the older P4, have you ever had one of the newer ones?

4x Sata 3gbs. Just saw that, highspeed. :lol:
I have one of the new P4's and they still suck lol. If Nvidia made a 8 series AGP card id put it in my P4 rig.

[Sadasius]

I have one of the new P4's and they still suck lol. If Nvidia made a 8 series AGP card id put it in my P4 rig.

Read the first post....Don't need one to be AGP. You can use an existing 8 series in that board and all you have to do is throw in some old parts. Makes for a really cheap folding rig that would earn some big points for Bjorn3d.

[Goliath182]

I always read ALL the posts in a thread. I have a AGP board that my P4 is in already, with DDR1 500. Im not interested in buying a new one.

[Sadasius]

But you would buy a 8series card that's AGP instead of a $50 board??? That don't make sense. Especially since you can use the 8 series cards now in other builds as well and with AGP your kinda screwed. I paid $270 for a 7950 AGP card....I would never do that again. Cannot use it in anything else. I think a $50 board is the wiser buy and just use existing junk you have lying around. Maybe it's just me and I am not seeing the point your making but it seems to make sense to me.

[joz]

Quite true.

Plus it is fine for keeping an 8800GTS folding merrily along.

I still want to get a nice little pico-ATX Atom board (or Merom) and slap a gargantuan 9800GX 2 on it; even if it is just borrowed stuff, I think it would be hilarious.


rofl. Sad... There ARE NO ATOM BOARDS WITH PIC-E.

Get a Nano, it outperforms the Atmon anyway, and has PCI-E.

[Goliath182]

I would have to pay 50 bucks for a board and then 25 bucks for DDR2 and thats before i buy the card. Id rather go AGP.

[Sadasius]

That price I paid for the 7950GT was just last year. What do you think they will charge for a 8 series AGP card? My estimate would be around $250 at least. So if you figure $50 for a board, $25 for ram and another $100 for a 8800GT that will still be less then what you would pay for a high end AGP plus you can still be able to swap the GT into another existing system. I thought the way you did last year and boy did I pay. So for $175 you can have a folding rig that does about 5000 ppd. Not bad in my book!

[Goliath182]

If i bought another 8800 GT id SLI it, but id rather stay with AGP on my P4.

[PP Mguire]

When things get setlled im going to use it as a server/fold machine and a possible backup gaming machine for LANs. I left my Silent Tower on it to stay cool and mounted another 90mm fan on it. :D

Miker yes i have 2 P4 3.0ghz HTs. One is Prescott (that Sadasius gave me) and the other is an older Northwood that came with the board.

[Miker]

When things get setlled im going to use it as a server/fold machine and a possible backup gaming machine for LANs. I left my Silent Tower on it to stay cool and mounted another 90mm fan on it. :D

Miker yes i have 2 P4 3.0ghz HTs. One is Prescott (that Sadasius gave me) and the other is an older Northwood that came with the board.

Well Northwood is slow as hell unless you are doing encoding. (It was really good at that for some reason) And have you ever used the Prescott, sadasius told me you aren't using it.

[Goliath182]

Lol Miker, Miker havening issues today or something? Second time you've been wrong today. The Northwood plays games better, and is pretty close to the Prescott in everything else. The only big lead Prescott has is in Overclocking, as it doesn't heat up as fast as the Northwood.

Hes used his Prescott with his 7800 GS before and his Athlon smoked it.

[Miker]

Lol Miker, Miker havening issues today or something? Second time you've been wrong today. The Northwood plays games better, and is pretty close to the Prescott in everything else. The only big lead Prescott has is in Overclocking, as it doesn't heat up as fast as the Northwood.

Hes used his Prescott with his 7800 GS before and his Athlon smoked it.

All I remember is that the EE edition was slower then the Northwood at encoding video.

[PP Mguire]

Well Northwood is slow as hell unless you are doing encoding. (It was really good at that for some reason) And have you ever used the Prescott, sadasius told me you aren't using it.Did nobody pay attention to the thread where i was proving a point to Frag? I used the cpu Sadisius gave me along with a 7800GS to play GRID maxed @ 1024x768. Older Intel rigs have a serious input lag problem.

[3991vhtes]

So from what I understand, the Northwood Pentium 4 (not the crappy celeron) is pretty much on par with a Prescott, except better in video encoding.. hmm....

that's weird because the Prescott has 1MB L2 cache, and SSE3 whereas a Northy only has 512k L2 cache, and SSE2..

[Miker]

So from what I understand, the Northwood Pentium 4 (not the crappy celeron) is pretty much on par with a Prescott, except better in video encoding.. hmm....

that's weird because the Prescott has 1MB L2 cache, and SSE3 whereas a Northy only has 512k L2 cache, and SSE2..

I know it doesn't make sense, but I think the L2/L3 slows it down at some things. >_<

[3991vhtes]

I know it doesn't make sense, but I think the L2/L3 slows it down at some things. >_<

Odd. I always assumed.. More L2 the better!

Edit- Wouldn't the SSE3 speed up endoding O.o

[Goliath182]

Odd. I always assumed.. More L2 the better!
Generally that is true but on the P4's that doesnt seem to show up.

[PP Mguire]

So im to assume that if i did this GRID test with the Northwood instead it would actualy run better? Or am i missing something?

[Miker]

So im to assume that if i did this GRID test with the Northwood instead it would actualy run better? Or am i missing something?

It is hard to tell, it seems like the more L2/L3 you have the better it is at some things, but is slows down some data-processing.

[PP Mguire]

Well i dont feel like tearing apart my rig again or my dads just to test it :/ He got kinda mad the last time (even though hes running my old stuff)

[Goliath182]

So im to assume that if i did this GRID test with the Northwood instead it would actualy run better? Or am i missing something?
I wouldn't imagine its a big gap.

[Goliath182]

I was looking and i dont see a cheap 478 mobo that supports a P4 EE.


Theres this option, comes with a CPU (Athlon 3200+ socket 754) and PCIe, also comes with 512meg card of DDR1.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135082

[PP Mguire]

LOL what a freakin rip! Thats my AM2 board with DDR and S754.

[Goliath182]

LOL what a freakin rip! Thats my AM2 board with DDR and S754.
Lol. Maybe that explains why its a piece of c***. :lol:

[PP Mguire]

Yes, and explains why my board uses a damn Nforce 403/Geforce 6100 chipset. WTF