What's Your Preferences In Various Hardware?

[najiro]

Q: What brand(s) do you prefer in the following hardware? (For gaming and/or general purpose use | In the sense of buying hardware and what you can afford)

1- Processor
2- Motherboard
3- Graphics Card
4- Boot Drive
5- Storage Drive
6- Chassis or Casing
7- Power Supply
8- Ram modules
9- Peripherals (mice, keyboard, and other stuff you would want to have in your PC)
10- Monitor
11- Audio devices
12- Cooling solution (aircooling or watercooling)

*I hope that completes the list
Optional: Give a brief explanation why you prefer the brand. No need to mention brands you dislike.

[peti1212]

From all the testing I have done my list is bellow numbered by how I would choose if had to and while it is important to stay unbiased in reviews when checking out hardware, here is my ranking from tested hardware I have done, so not purely ranked by brand name, but by my experience with each product.

1) #1 Intel / #2 AMD
2) #1 ASUS / #2 GIGABYTE / #3 MSI
3) #1 ASUS / #2 MSI / #3 GIGABYTE
4) SSD: #1 Kingston / #2 Samsung / #3 OCZ or Corsair, HDD: #1 WD, #2 Seagate, #3 Hitachi
5) SSD: #1 Kingston / #2 Samsung / #3 OCZ or Corsair, HDD: #1 WD, #2 Seagate, #3 Hitachi
6) Hard to say, I like many and I can't rank, but right now NZXT Phantom 820, then CM Storm Trooper,
7) #1 Seasonic / #2 Corsair / #3 Cooler Master

[PP Mguire]

Ranked for my experience with product. All things considered like quality, customer service, how far you can push said product, price, looks, ect.

1 Intel
2 ASRock
3 eVGA
4 PCI-E Revodrive or SATA Samsung SSD
5 Seagate
6 This really depends. So far the best looking and easiest to work with has been Corsair.
7 Corsair (essentially Seasonic)

[najiro]

Processor: Intel
Motherboard: ASUS > Asrock
Graphics Card: eVGA > ASUS
Boot Drive: Seagate
Storage Drive: Seagate
Chassis: Coolermaster > Lian Li
Power Supply: Corsair > FSP
Rams: G.skill! (cheaper than the competitors, good overclocking rams)
Peripherals: Generic mice user only coz it tends to break down after a few months due to the nature of my usage LOL
Keyboard = a Logitech with a lot of macro keys (currently using a G110)
Monitor: Samsung (but im using a toshiba)
Audio: Creative (cheap in my country)

[CDsDontBurn]

1 Intel / AMD
2 MSI / EVGA / Gigabyte / ASUS
3 PowerColor (If AMD) / EVGA (If NVIDIA)
4 Something SSD like. IDK yet as my only experiences with SSDs are what I have in my laptop
5 Anything from WD or Seagate that is 7200RPM and has 64MB cache. Oh, lots of storage capacity too :p
6 It depends. For sure nothing with a door
7 Lots: Corsair, Seasonic, OCZ / PCP&C, Enermax, Antec, Cooler Master, Thermal Take, FSP-Sparkle, Silver Stone

[That Guy]

1) Processor - Intel (1), AMD (2).

Intel b/c they're the best. AMD because they're budget friendly. And also b/c there're only two choices.

2) Motherboard - ASUS (1), AsRock (2)

ASUS always puts out gorgeous, hardworking, and reliable boards. I like the aesthetic of AsRock's Extreme series boards.

3) Graphics Card - EVGA (1), MSI (2)

EVGA because their customer service is fantastic and they have great cards.

4) Boot Drive - Corsair (1)

Their Neutron GTX is a great SSD.

5) Storage Drive - Western Digital (1), Seagate (2)

Western Digital because their customer service (while outsourced to India, true) is great - ask for anything and they'll send it to you, if it's relevant to your warranty. I.E. I needed a SATA cable so they sent one. And a PATA cable.

6) Chassis or Casing - NZXT (1), Silverstone (2)

NZXT has beautiful cases that are large and pretty. I only put Silverstone number 2 b/c of the price. Although their gorgeous RV002 case is only $140ish.

7) Power Supply - Corsair AX Series (1)

Fully modular, reliable goodness. Also, OCZ makes some nice PSUs as well.

[werty316]

1) Processor - Intel - Raw power house chips.

2) Motherboard - Asus - Overall just awesome boards- design, features, overclocking features, etc.

3) Graphics Card - Nvidia (EVGA - Top notch customer service).

4) Boot Drive - Corsair SSD or Samsung SSD - Excellent SSDs.

5) Storage Drive - Seagate edges out WD by a small amount. Both companies have great customer service but I've had more dead HDDs from WD than Seagate. 3 dead HDDs in 3 months? Common WD.

6) Chassis or Casing - Cooler Master - Great cases with exceptional value.

7) Power Supply - Corsair - Reputable PSUs.

Maybe a cooling preference should be mentioned as well? Air for me and the Phanteks PH-TC14PE gets my vote.

[khangdan1992]

ok this is my view point:

Graphics Card
Processor
Motherboard
Boot Drive
Power Supply
Chassis or Casing
Storage Drive

[sifter]

1) Processor: Intel
2) Motherboard: Asus, MSI, EVGA
3) Graphics Card: EVGA
4) Boot Drive: Intel SSD
5) Storage Drive: Western Digital
6) Chassis or Casing: SilverStone
7) Power Supply: Seasonic

[TehYoyo]

1) Processor: Intel
2) Motherboard: ASUS
3) Graphics Card: EVGA for Nvidia, ASUS for Radeon GPUs.
4) Boot Drive: Vertex 4 or Samsung 830/40
5) Storage Drive: WD Caviar Black
6) Chassis or Casing: SilverStone TJ11, Silverstone TJ07, Silverstone RV001, or NZXT Phantom (not the 820)
7) Power Supply: Corsair, SeaSonic, Kingwin, Rosewill (has some really nice PSUs, Platinum 80+ for cheap)


Maybe a cooling preference should be mentioned as well? Air for me and the Phanteks PH-TC14PE gets my vote.

Good idea. But I'd say that if you're going hardcore, you can't mess with liquid. Hard to say a brand for this, but EK waterblocks get my vote. For air, maybe the Hyper212Evo just for cheap, efficient cooling that's better than the stock HSF.

[najiro]

Wow! We got a lot of EVGA fans here.. maybe we should call for some contest sponsorship :)

[CDsDontBurn]

Wow! We got a lot of EVGA fans here.. maybe we should call for some contest sponsorship :)

Earlier this year there was one contest here where Jenseng Huang or w/e his name is (I forget right now) signed an NVIDIA card. The card was an EVGA card.

[najiro]

Earlier this year there was one contest here where Jenseng Huang or w/e his name is (I forget right now) signed an NVIDIA card. The card was an EVGA card.
waaaaaaaaaaaah! really?! I discovered this forum too late then X__X

[CDsDontBurn]

It's cool. I wasn't around for that competition either. I only picked up my activity here again like 3 weeks ago or something like that.

[najiro]

It's cool. I wasn't around for that competition either. I only picked up my activity here again like 3 weeks ago or something like that.
:( evga cards is so hard to find in my place.. stores don't sell them.. I would need to order one in an order basis where I need to pay for shipping and other extra fees. Well.. gamers here don't really do high-end builds like those with crossfire or SLI. You might even find it funny how people here brand a "gaming PC" build.. on the average, specs PC specs like AthlonII X2 250 + GT 220 or HD 5450 is already qualified as a "gaming PC" as long as it can run DOTA, CS, GTA and your average browser.. I know westerners would totally reject such classification X__X
So just imagine how hard it is to look for high-end parts here.. the demand for them is close to zero...

[ET3D]

Preferences? Are these what I want to have or what I buy? :)

At home all my CPU's are AMD (Phenom II X6 in the desktop, Phenom II X3 in the HTPC, E-350 in the laptop) but I'll probably buy Intel next time I buy (though so far I don't feel the need).

My GPU's in use are also all AMD (Radeon 5850 in the desktop, Radeon 5550 in the HTPC, E-350 in the laptop), but I won these two cards. I will probably own an NVIDIA chip in a Nexus 7 soon, so at least that would balance things out. :) Mmmm, just realised I also have an AMD GPU in my Wii and soon will have another one in an Xbox 360. For graphics cards (not chip) brands I don't have a particular favourite.

I do like AMD. I think it's a nicer company than Intel and NVIDIA. Plus I got a lot more free AMD cards than NVIDIA ones. Still, IMO its products are less appealing these days.

Motherboards I often buy Gigabyte because of value for money and they generally work well over time.

Other parts I don't have specific brand preferences.

[Cody_Irwin]

1) Processor------------INTEL
2) Motherboard--------Asus (Would be Zotac if they made E-ATX/ATX mobo's in USA
3) Graphics Card-------Zotac
4) Boot Drive-----------I own no SSD so...Western Digital HDD
5) Storage Drive-------WD
6) Chassis or Casing---Dont care if it's got a good Cutout ect.
7) Power Supply-------Varies Corsair/Seasonic/Cougar/Antec/Thermaltake, All have great PSU's

[Joshua_Mahr]

1) Processor------------INTEL
2) Motherboard--------Asus
3) Graphics Card-------PowerColor
4) Boot Drive-----------OCZ Vertex 4 or Samsung 840 Pro
5) Storage Drive-------OCZ Vertex 4
6) Chassis or Casing---CMaster, Lian-Li, Antec
7) Power Supply-------Corsair or SeaSonic Only

[slugbug]

1) Processor ----------Intel
2) Motherboard -------Gigabyte
3) Graphics Card ------EVGA
4) Boot Drive ---------Kingston SSD
5) Storage Drive ------Western Digital
6) Chassis or Casing---Cooler Master
7) Power Supply ------Corsair

[brickspuck]

This is my point:

Processor
Motherboard
Graphics Card
Power Supply
Storage Drive
Boot Drive
Chassis or Casing

[ryandigweed]

No.
Component
Performance
Budget


1.
Processor:
Intel
AMD


2.
Motherboard:
ASUS
ASrock


3.
Graphics Card:
MSi - NVIDIA Chipset
Saphire-ATI Chipset


4.
Boot Drive:
Samsung
Intel


5.
Storage Drive:
WD RE4
Seagate


6.
Chassis:
Bitfenix
Bitfenix


7.
Power Supply:
Corsair
Xigmatek




Was wondering that there was no Sound or RAM preference :S

[PP Mguire]

No.
Component
Performance
Budget


1.
Processor:
Intel
AMD


2.
Motherboard:
ASUS
ASrock


3.
Graphics Card:
MSi - NVIDIA Chipset
Saphire-ATI Chipset


4.
Boot Drive:
Samsung
Intel


5.
Storage Drive:
WD RE4
Seagate


6.
Chassis:
Bitfenix
Bitfenix


7.
Power Supply:
Corsair
Xigmatek




Was wondering that there was no Sound or RAM preference :S
Probably because as of right now, unless you are going to the elite hardcore of either side there is no point.

[Pablo 54]

1) Processor: Intel – I have never fried one in an OC
2) Motherboard: Asus or MSI – I have never had to send one back
3) Graphics Card: Nvidia - F@H ability
4) Boot Drive: any SSD – Any SSD that is on sale.
5) Storage Drive: 2TB WD Black – Reputation
6) Chassis or Casing: Fractal – Something different than TTK et al.
7) Power Supply: Corsair/TTK – Depends on which one is on special.

[ryandigweed]

Probably because as of right now, unless you are going to the elite hardcore of either side there is no point.



Those Samsung DDR3 modules are great budget rams and work with less volts. :-) .. And usually I would have a preference of corsair vengeance vs Kingston if those Samsung rams weren't available :-)

[najiro]

Those Samsung DDR3 modules are great budget rams and work with less volts. :-) .. And usually I would have a preference of corsair vengeance vs Kingston if those Samsung rams weren't available :-)

Okay let me edit the first post hehe. Rams do matter and I do have a preference for them too :)
Can't find samsung rams in my area, mostly G.skill at corsair here. I'd prefer G.skill now although I bought corsair vengeance before

[brokenwave]

cpu intel or amd as long it's free
mb workstation as long it's free
gpu green or red as long it give me best bang for the buck
hd sg or wd as long it's big in data size
case any as long it's free
pus any as long it's free
oh there's only two things i need to buy, it's gpu and hd

[altereDad]

Looking back I don't see Intel being as involved in its community. Call me a follower of service, I like the AMD for that. If it's capable (and both are) handling what I need it for, it works.

1) Processor ----------AMD
2) Motherboard -------ASuS
3) Graphics Card ------GeForce
4) Boot Drive ---------OCZ SSD
5) Storage Drive ------WD
6) Chassis or Casing---CM or Corsair
7) Power Supply ------Corsais/TT

[PP Mguire]

AMD are more involved because they need the PR. As it stands, Intel replaced a fried i5 that I cooked under phase. Good enough for me on the CS side. AMD is capable sure, but I prefer more bang for my buck (No, I didn't pay for the 3960x).

[ryandigweed]

AMD are more involved because they need the PR. As it stands, Intel replaced a fried i5 that I cooked under phase. Good enough for me on the CS side. AMD is capable sure, but I prefer more bang for my buck (No, I didn't pay for the 3960x).


How did you get the 3960x then? Just curious

[PP Mguire]

Won it and the board at Quakecon. I purchased a 2500k setup back Feb which was totally worth the money even over an i5 750.

[ryandigweed]

Won it and the board at Quakecon. I purchased a 2500k setup back Feb which was totally worth the money even over an i5 750.



Congrats man. Was it a sweepstakes or did you win some tournament or something.? Either ways, it's a kickass rig. I was wondering howcome you got 3 rigs in ur sig, but now I know.

[PP Mguire]

I actually only have the one in my sig, but I technically have 4 computers.
I didn't win myself, it was my fiance. She volunteered many hours since she wasn't able to get a spot and wound up winning the board and CPU. I am using it because she doesn't need anything more than my old i5 since she doesn't game on the PC.

[najiro]

I actually only have the one in my sig, but I technically have 4 computers.
I
@______@
wow.. I could really use another one that I can use in my parent's house.. I hate using my old laptops.. it's soooooooooo slow.. grrrrrrrrrrrrr

[PP Mguire]

@______@
wow.. I could really use another one that I can use in my parent's house.. I hate using my old laptops.. it's soooooooooo slow.. grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Just gotta accumulate stuff over the years.

[ryandigweed]

I actually only have the one in my sig, but I technically have 4 computers.
I didn't win myself, it was my fiance. She volunteered many hours since she wasn't able to get a spot and wound up winning the board and CPU. I am using it because she doesn't need anything more than my old i5 since she doesn't game on the PC.

At least, she won something kickass for you. Which gives you one more reason to marry her :D

[PP Mguire]

At least, she won something kickass for you. Which gives you one more reason to marry her :D

Yup. She also got me a GTX465 a few years back and got me in contact with a few cool people as well.

[ryandigweed]

Yup. She also got me a GTX465 a few years back and got me in contact with a few cool people as well.



MARRY HER !!!!! Ahahaha but don't blame me later

[PP Mguire]

MARRY HER !!!!! Ahahaha but don't blame me laterLol I will be next year.

[Saryn]

I've always had AMD cpu's and Nvidia cards. As far as everything else, I am not overly picky.

[peti1212]

You guys see a trend here with EVGA cards? And this is why they don't do reviews nowadays, only with certain sites. They say "people know us, why spend money on samples if its not required", though I'd think if there would be more reviews out there, not just by those that are EVGA fans or EVGA knows will put out good reviews, then the lookout for the company would be different. Just my thoughts on the whole EVGA thing. Won't say what or how I know. I'm just going to leave it at knowing people at EVGA and their honest opinions about their quality, and marketing. You'd be shocked by the amount of things they bypass just to save on cost. ;)

[ryandigweed]

You guys see a trend here with EVGA cards? And this is why they don't do reviews nowadays, only with certain sites. They say "people know us, why spend money on samples if its not required", though I'd think if there would be more reviews out there, not just by those that are EVGA fans or EVGA knows will put out good reviews, then the lookout for the company would be different. Just my thoughts on the whole EVGA thing. Won't say what or how I know. I'm just going to leave it at knowing people at EVGA and their honest opinions about their quality, and marketing. You'd be shocked by the amount of things they bypass just to save on cost. ;)




Wow I didn't realise it, but it makes sense. For stock cards I love Evga ! I have had a gtx560 and now gtx680. But Their coolers aren't great for overclocking, unlike msi twinfrozer cards. ..

[PP Mguire]

You guys see a trend here with EVGA cards? And this is why they don't do reviews nowadays, only with certain sites. They say "people know us, why spend money on samples if its not required", though I'd think if there would be more reviews out there, not just by those that are EVGA fans or EVGA knows will put out good reviews, then the lookout for the company would be different. Just my thoughts on the whole EVGA thing. Won't say what or how I know. I'm just going to leave it at knowing people at EVGA and their honest opinions about their quality, and marketing. You'd be shocked by the amount of things they bypass just to save on cost. ;)Met head of RMA with eVGA and the crew he had at Quakecon with Vince. Bunch of nice people where as we discussed before how others are not so nice. I prefer eVGA because I have never had a lick of trouble RMAing any products and getting them replaced. The only eVGA card I have killed was a 280 out of warranty and they were willing to work with me on getting it replaced. The only other company I have had this success was with XFX but they turned camp so they don't get my business. Every piece I have bought from them has been top notch and never DOA and I have never had any bug issues with their boards or cards. I was amazed at how long my poor eVGA FTW P55 survived under phase when I didn't have the proper materials to protect it. Even after having rubber residue and grease in the socket they were still willing to replace it. I prefer companies because of my experience with their product & their service. So far eVGA has been the best experience for me on camp Nvidia as well as many of my friends in person and online.
People have to realize every company cuts corners to make a profit as it's the name of the game. If you can successfully make a product that doesn't die in 3-5 years under normal use for normal customers while making money then kudos. My 465 lasted 225MHz OC on the core under stock cooling for 3 years while hitting 90c a lot during gaming sessions. Good enough for me. Probably still running in that assholes rig that stole it from me.
I would say they are right in thinking their name is out there enough, but wrong for thinking they couldn't use any extra PR.

[brokenwave]

lol
"My 465 lasted 225MHz OC on the core under stock cooling for 3 years while hitting 90c a lot during gaming sessions. Good enough for me. Probably still running in that assholes rig that stole it from me."

[PP Mguire]

I'm glad my misfortunes humor you.

[Aoshi]

Aww I'm sorry that happened! Hopefully karma kicks his ass.

[PP Mguire]

Aww I'm sorry that happened! Hopefully karma kicks his ass.The cops did, but I didn't get my stuff back.

[CDsDontBurn]

You guys see a trend here with EVGA cards? And this is why they don't do reviews nowadays, only with certain sites. They say "people know us, why spend money on samples if its not required", though I'd think if there would be more reviews out there, not just by those that are EVGA fans or EVGA knows will put out good reviews, then the lookout for the company would be different. Just my thoughts on the whole EVGA thing. Won't say what or how I know. I'm just going to leave it at knowing people at EVGA and their honest opinions about their quality, and marketing. You'd be shocked by the amount of things they bypass just to save on cost. ;)

As a former EVGA employee, I know exactly what you're talking about. :lol:


Met head of RMA with eVGA and the crew he had at Quakecon with Vince. Bunch of nice people where as we discussed before how others are not so nice. I prefer eVGA because I have never had a lick of trouble RMAing any products and getting them replaced. The only eVGA card I have killed was a 280 out of warranty and they were willing to work with me on getting it replaced. The only other company I have had this success was with XFX but they turned camp so they don't get my business. Every piece I have bought from them has been top notch and never DOA and I have never had any bug issues with their boards or cards. I was amazed at how long my poor eVGA FTW P55 survived under phase when I didn't have the proper materials to protect it. Even after having rubber residue and grease in the socket they were still willing to replace it. I prefer companies because of my experience with their product & their service. So far eVGA has been the best experience for me on camp Nvidia as well as many of my friends in person and online.
People have to realize every company cuts corners to make a profit as it's the name of the game. If you can successfully make a product that doesn't die in 3-5 years under normal use for normal customers while making money then kudos. My 465 lasted 225MHz OC on the core under stock cooling for 3 years while hitting 90c a lot during gaming sessions. Good enough for me. Probably still running in that assholes rig that stole it from me.
I would say they are right in thinking their name is out there enough, but wrong for thinking they couldn't use any extra PR.

When I worked at EVGA, the motto amongst the CS crew was, "bend over backwards and take it in the ass". This was in reference to pretty much saying yes to everything the customer wanted.

"Physical damage? Oh, you ran hit it with a sledge hammer? Send it in. We'll replace it for you!"

Ok, maybe not that extreme, but you get the idea. This is the reason why EVGA has such an awesome reputation with their customer base. Lifetime warranty isn't around anymore, and registering within 30 days is a PITA especially if you don't know about that because you're naive about reading their warranty terms and conditions. Regardless of this though, the simple fact that EVGA will have their product replaced regardless of the situation is why people like them and are willing to pay a premium over other NVIDIA partners.

[ryandigweed]

The cops did, but I didn't get my stuff back.


how did your card manage to be stolen? And yeah I put my gtx560 under a lot of stress on a low end system with a weak power supply.the card was even giving a few artifacts at times. I think that was because of the power issue. Still eVGA stayed by my side through dark times with a crappy PSU !!





As a former EVGA employee, I know exactly what you're talking about. :lol:




Wow. I didn't know you worked with evga. It must have been awesome. I would love to work with evga. Did you get any benefits regarding their hardware?


eVGA really gives alot to the community. And they're really awesome. The main guys like rob are really helpful. Whenever I mail eVga regarding some issue Rob is always there to help me. :-)

By the way I'm active on the eVGA forums as well :-)

Sent from my GT-N7000

[PP Mguire]

As a former EVGA employee, I know exactly what you're talking about. :lol:



When I worked at EVGA, the motto amongst the CS crew was, "bend over backwards and take it in the ass". This was in reference to pretty much saying yes to everything the customer wanted.

"Physical damage? Oh, you ran hit it with a sledge hammer? Send it in. We'll replace it for you!"

Ok, maybe not that extreme, but you get the idea. This is the reason why EVGA has such an awesome reputation with their customer base. Lifetime warranty isn't around anymore, and registering within 30 days is a PITA especially if you don't know about that because you're naive about reading their warranty terms and conditions. Regardless of this though, the simple fact that EVGA will have their product replaced regardless of the situation is why people like them and are willing to pay a premium over other NVIDIA partners.QFT. Exactly why I stick with them. The only time I use anything else is when I can't pass up a deal trading.


how did your card manage to be stolen? And yeah I put my gtx560 under a lot of stress on a low end system with a weak power supply.the card was even giving a few artifacts at times. I think that was because of the power issue. Still eVGA stayed by my side through dark times with a crappy PSU !!







Wow. I didn't know you worked with evga. It must have been awesome. I would love to work with evga. Did you get any benefits regarding their hardware?


eVGA really gives alot to the community. And they're really awesome. The main guys like rob are really helpful. Whenever I mail eVga regarding some issue Rob is always there to help me. :-)

By the way I'm active on the eVGA forums as well :-)

Sent from my GT-N7000Laziness bit me in the ass. I was trading my 465 and a benj for 2 470s. He offered for me to drive to his place which was almost an hour drive one way from my place so I just asked for video and a pic of the cards. I received then we made the trade. When I got home both cards were dead, the email was fake, and the number was fake that he used. I managed to track him down online with a friend and since I had half of his plate memorized I used that to match his vehicle and sent the address and plate information in to the police.

[CDsDontBurn]

Wow. I didn't know you worked with evga. It must have been awesome. I would love to work with evga. Did you get any benefits regarding their hardware?


eVGA really gives alot to the community. And they're really awesome. The main guys like rob are really helpful. Whenever I mail eVga regarding some issue Rob is always there to help me. :-)

By the way I'm active on the eVGA forums as well :-)

Sent from my GT-N7000

It's something I don't talk about. Realistically, it's something I don't talk about because I didn't like working there. It was just a job, a stressful job at that, where you felt unappreciated because you were "expendable". For as long as I was there, I saw many faces come and go. The average employee turn-over rate for my department was 3 - 6 months. Other departments were slightly longer being 1 year.

I'm only saying this because I used to work there. If you would have asked me while I worked there I would have straight up lied and said, "yea it's really cool working here". I'm sure that if you call in right now and ask what it's like to work there, the reply would more than likely be a "yes" with that being a false "yes". That is of course unless it's a new-hire who is fully excited about working there and is naive about working there.

I still have friends who work there and they tell me how "awesome" it still is to work there. The funny part is, I happen to run into more people that work there now. That's happened a few times at school, lol.

Oh, and is that Rob Baca that you're talking about? Or just some forum dude?

[ryandigweed]

. When I got home both cards were dead, the email was fake, and the number was fake that he used. I managed to track him down online with a friend and since I had half of his plate memorized I used that to match his vehicle and sent the address and plate information in to the police.


CSI : Bjorn3D









Oh, and is that Rob Baca that you're talking about? Or just some forum dude?


Yeah Rob Barca. He's a real cooperative guy :-)!


Sent from my GT-N7000

[CDsDontBurn]

Yeah Rob Barca. He's a real cooperative guy :-)!


Sent from my GT-N7000

Rob is hella cool people. I've known him since when I worked with him at PC Club back when that was around.

[najiro]

Woah! I missed a lot of chat here!
Now I see why eVGA is so trusted..
"ran on a sledge hammer"?
LOL!
True enough about the reviews.. they are that reputable I guess.

[ryandigweed]

Rob is hella cool people. I've known him since when I worked with him at PC Club back when that was around.

I never even heard about that club. Damn I need to get down to the roots :-)

Sent from my GT-N7000

[PP Mguire]

CSI : Bjorn3D









Yeah Rob Barca. He's a real cooperative guy :-)!


Sent from my GT-N7000
Wasn't that hard actually. Friend got the IP and tracked the block for me and drove over there looking for the vehicle. Got lucky and found it, jotted down the address, sent it in.

[ryandigweed]

Wasn't that hard actually. Friend got the IP and tracked the block for me and drove over there looking for the vehicle. Got lucky and found it, jotted down the address, sent it in.

Ahahah way too awesome man..I could never pin point people messing with me..maybe because they were using dynamic IPs and I don't know how to track the location and narrow it down to a certain block

Sent from my GT-N7000

[PP Mguire]

Ahahah way too awesome man..I could never pin point people messing with me..maybe because they were using dynamic IPs and I don't know how to track the location and narrow it down to a certain block

Sent from my GT-N7000
I know how to get IPs and such, even narrow to a city but my friend knows all that crap as it's kind of his thing. That and wireless technology. He's my go to guy if I ever get stuck.

[peti1212]

Wow. I didn't know you worked with evga. It must have been awesome. I would love to work with evga. Did you get any benefits regarding their hardware?

I know several people that used to work for EVGA, and they do not work for them anymore. They used to be in other departments, not technical support, and one of the people that I know that still works for them works at the technical support department. Either way, the rest of the staff left because of the way they were treated, the lack of respect, and job conditions. Plus some started seeing the reality of things.

I'm not going to say EVGA's products suck, cuase there are some nice hardware out there from them which will work completely fine, but I wouldn't be proud of certain things they make.

[CDsDontBurn]

I know several people that used to work for EVGA, and they do not work for them anymore. They used to be in other departments, not technical support, and one of the people that I know that still works for them works at the technical support department. Either way, the rest of the staff left because of the way they were treated, the lack of respect, and job conditions. Plus some started seeing the reality of things.

I'm not going to say EVGA's products suck, cuase there are some nice hardware out there from them which will work completely fine, but I wouldn't be proud of certain things they make.

QFT!

The people that are there still from when I was there have moved around to different departments and say they like it there better than CS. However, like you said, their overall treatment isn't the best. One guy goes to my school and he was said, "when you left, you never looked back. you're a smart man" :)

[TehYoyo]

QFT!

The people that are there still from when I was there have moved around to different departments and say they like it there better than CS. However, like you said, their overall treatment isn't the best. One guy goes to my school and he was said, "when you left, you never looked back. you're a smart man" :)

Really. That's kind of interesting - their support staff are certainly good, so the quality of the work doesn't reflect the conditions. What kinds of problems?

[najiro]

I know several people that used to work for EVGA, and they do not work for them anymore. They used to be in other departments, not technical support, and one of the people that I know that still works for them works at the technical support department. Either way, the rest of the staff left because of the way they were treated, the lack of respect, and job conditions. Plus some started seeing the reality of things.

I'm not going to say EVGA's products suck, cuase there are some nice hardware out there from them which will work completely fine, but I wouldn't be proud of certain things they make.
Wow! Thanks some revelation... hmm what could those things be O______O

[CDsDontBurn]

Really. That's kind of interesting - their support staff are certainly good, so the quality of the work doesn't reflect the conditions. What kinds of problems?

Honestly, I don't want to go into more detail than what I've already said. But what I've already said can be backed up by other members of this forum who work / worked / or know people who work for EVGA. All I'll say is what I've already said before. Working at EVGA isn't that great. Peti1212 pretty much hits the nail on the head of work conditions there, and from my friends who still work there, it appears that conditions have not really changed much since I've left back in 2008.

[PP Mguire]

From my experience conditions of work don't necessarily effect the products associated with the company. Cough Apple. Every person I know of that has an eVGA product is extremely happy with it and their CS. In the end, that's all that matters. A job is a job, and you are getting paid to do that job. I've always said to myself if I'm getting paid a decent amount of money for the task at hand then it's best to deal with it or find something else and quit *****ing. My first real job was working for ACS which was an outsourced Sprint call center. Starting out at 13 an hour and being bumped to 15 right out of your two week training period is great for a sit down job. If you have the mentality to deal with idiots over the phone then it's a cake walk. The working conditions over the phone and in person were horrible, but the amount you got paid to do very little you can't really complain. It's a pity they just dropped off the face of the planet =(

[ryandigweed]

From my experience conditions of work don't necessarily effect the products associated with the company. Cough Apple. Every person I know of that has an eVGA product is extremely happy with it and their CS. In the end, that's all that matters. A job is a job, and you are getting paid to do that job. I've always said to myself if I'm getting paid a decent amount of money for the task at hand then it's best to deal with it or find something else and quit *****ing. My first real job was working for ACS which was an outsourced Sprint call center. Starting out at 13 an hour and being bumped to 15 right out of your two week training period is great for a sit down job. If you have the mentality to deal with idiots over the phone then it's a cake walk. The working conditions over the phone and in person were horrible, but the amount you got paid to do very little you can't really complain. It's a pity they just dropped off the face of the planet =(

I hate call center jobs. The people get pretty mean and rude. Although some people love call center jobs, I feel like it's not for me. Because I tried working at a call center and I used to fall asleep waiting for calls....!

[CDsDontBurn]

I hate call center jobs. The people get pretty mean and rude. Although some people love call center jobs, I feel like it's not for me. Because I tried working at a call center and I used to fall asleep waiting for calls....!

You must have not been busy enough :lol:.

[ryandigweed]

You must have not been busy enough :lol:.



Yep it was the earlier Shift.. The calls used to get busy a little later on after the lunch break or morning cup of tea. And I couldn't get used to waking so early. It was really hectic. That was my first ever job that I had gotten..I was fresh out of school. I and then I decided working isn't my thing is yet. Might as well study. I so it's been 5 years and I'm still studying :-). Had gone for a couple of interviews but didn't get any call backs..

[TehYoyo]

Thanks for the enlightenment, CDsDontBurn.

PP Mguire, I agree with what you're saying, but I also think it's important to enjoy what you do. Obviously, I wouldn't recommend ditching a well-paying job if you don't have another one lined up, but I think if you have other options, it's worth pursuing.

[CDsDontBurn]

Thanks for the enlightenment, CDsDontBurn.

You're welcome!


PP Mguire, I agree with what you're saying, but I also think it's important to enjoy what you do. Obviously, I wouldn't recommend ditching a well-paying job if you don't have another one lined up, but I think if you have other options, it's worth pursuing.

Exactly! If you don't enjoy it, you're going to be miserable working where you work at regardless of the amount of money that is being made.

[Goliath182]

Well I haven't filled out my list so I might as well do that :lol:

1- Processor - AMD as soon as they get their **** together
2- Motherboard - I've always had really good luck with Asus
3- Graphics Card - Sapphire
4- Boot Drive - Kingston or Corsair
5- Storage Drive - Western Digital
6- Chassis or Casing - Cooler Master
7- Power Supply - Corsair
8- Ram modules - Crucial or Gskill
9- Peripherals (mice, keyboard, and other stuff you would want to have in your PC) - MX-518 and whatever is free for keyboard
10- Monitor - Samsung
11- Audio devices - JBL
12- Cooling solution (aircooling or watercooling) - Enclosed water (H50, ect.)

[TehYoyo]

Exactly! If you don't enjoy it, you're going to be miserable working where you work at regardless of the amount of money that is being made.

Well... the money helps. A bit. Y'know, for the hardwares it buys at home.

Well I haven't filled out my list so I might as well do that :lol:

1- Processor - AMD as soon as they get their **** together
2- Motherboard - I've always had really good luck with Asus
3- Graphics Card - Sapphire
4- Boot Drive - Kingston or Corsair
5- Storage Drive - Western Digital
6- Chassis or Casing - Cooler Master
7- Power Supply - Corsair
8- Ram modules - Crucial or Gskill
9- Peripherals (mice, keyboard, and other stuff you would want to have in your PC) - MX-518 and whatever is free for keyboard
10- Monitor - Samsung
11- Audio devices - JBL
12- Cooling solution (aircooling or watercooling) - Enclosed water (H50, ect.)

Lol thanks for getting us back on topic.

[peti1212]

1- Processor - AMD as soon as they get their **** together


They won't! They already gave up competing with Intel and are heading a completely different route.

[Goliath182]

They won't! They already gave up competing with Intel and are heading a completely different route.

In some reguards yes, but they can still beat Intel the way they're going.

[CDsDontBurn]

They won't! They already gave up competing with Intel and are heading a completely different route.

I've been told by AMD that they haven't given up competing with Intel. They've told me that they're changing their strategy on how to compete with Intel and you can see it with their APUs.

[Joshua_Mahr]

I think so too. If there APU's keep going the way they are, I think they might be able to take over the casual laptop and basic gamer desktops. Just my two cents.

[CDsDontBurn]

That's exactly my point.

AMD isn't going for the high end market anymore. They're going for the low-end / laptop / casual gamer market like you said.

[ryandigweed]

I think so too. If there APU's keep going the way they are, I think they might be able to take over the casual laptop and basic gamer desktops. Just my two cents.



Yep I agree. The apus would make great budget laptops as well as htpcs and office systems

[TehYoyo]

Yep I agree. The apus would make great budget laptops as well as htpcs and office systems

An APU for a graphics-heavy computer like a HTPC? I've never built one, so I wouldn't really know, but it logically seems like you need a nice graphics card, no?
That's exactly my point.

AMD isn't going for the high end market anymore. They're going for the low-end / laptop / casual gamer market like you said.
Good. They really can't compete w/ Intel high end. I think I've said that before. They need to hit the budget market because it's pretty wide-open.

[CDsDontBurn]

An APU for a graphics-heavy computer like a HTPC? I've never built one, so I wouldn't really know, but it logically seems like you need a nice graphics card, no?

Yes, the APU is equivalent to a range of low-end stand alone GPUs such as 5450, 5550, 6450, and 6550. All those cards are perfect for an HTPC. Seeing as the APU has that type of GPU embedded into it, it's perfect for an HTPC.

[ryandigweed]

An APU for a graphics-heavy computer like a HTPC? I've never built one, so I wouldn't really know, but it logically seems like you need a nice graphics card, no?



Like CDsDontBurn stated that they provide a good graphic output as compared to low end - mid range graphic cards. That's why everyone's so crazy about apus.

However I would like to add that htpcs aren't that graphic intensive as you'd think. I they just need a decent graphic card to handle high resolutions and clarity on screens.. Apart from that some hardware acceleration while watching movies. Nothing so intense. People are running htpcs on mobile chip sets from tablets and phones. So I don't think there's an issue

[peti1212]

That's exactly my point.

AMD isn't going for the high end market anymore. They're going for the low-end / laptop / casual gamer market like you said.

Exactly. APUs, and apparently ARM based processors... ARM is still new and they are working on it, but we'll see in the next few years.

[ET3D]

An APU for a graphics-heavy computer like a HTPC? I've never built one, so I wouldn't really know, but it logically seems like you need a nice graphics card, no?

The only reason to have a nice graphics card on an HTPC is if it's intended for gaming. Normally they're intended for video playback, and even the lowest end CPU and CPU can do that decently. APU's can work out well even for low end gaming (even hardcore gaming, but you'd have to use low quality settings).

[Joshua_Mahr]

Peti yea AMD is incorporating ARM into there server chips soon.

[Cody_Irwin]

Too bad AMD Doesnt care anymore it seems, since 7990 has been delayed for like 5 months or more now as well. Their stuff keeps getting cheaper and cheaper by the day too.

[CDsDontBurn]

Too bad AMD Doesnt care anymore it seems, since 7990 has been delayed for like 5 months or more now as well. Their stuff keeps getting cheaper and cheaper by the day too.

This isn't the case. AMD dropped the 7990 entirely and left it up to their partners to decide if they wanted to come out with their own version 7990.

AMD has told me a few reasons why, but those are NDA so, yea...

[ryandigweed]

Isn't there the 6gb 7990 by powercolor which retails for around $800. Limited in quantity?

[CDsDontBurn]

Isn't there the 6gb 7990 by powercolor which retails for around $800. Limited in quantity?

Yes, the 7990 by PowerColor is available for $900 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131483&Tpk=powercolor%207990) on NewEgg. However, the design and everything is not AMD's, it's PowerColor's design. PowerColor, as we know, is an AMD partner. So, my previous post on this was correct.

[TehYoyo]

Thanks for the clarifications, everyone.

Why aren't Intel CPUs w/ the right chipsets (H67 or similar) considered APUs? You can use the Intel integrated graphics for video output. In the case of H67, it's HDMI, DVI, and DP.

[werty316]

Integrated GPUs on Intel CPUs are integrated-class whereas integrated GPUs on AMD APUs are discrete-class.

[CDsDontBurn]

Integrated GPUs on Intel CPUs are integrated-class whereas integrated GPUs on AMD APUs are discrete-class.

Doesn't Intel call their integrated graphics "iGPU" or something like that? And AFAIK, AMD calls all their APUs "APU" and their CPUs "CPU" in reference to the APU / CPU having integrated graphics or not. EG, A8-3650 (APU) vs. FX-4170 (CPU). I don't believe Intel does this type of name recognition and call their CPU a CPU still with integrated graphics or "iGPU" support.

Somebody please correct me on the Intel part if I'm wrong on that.

[najiro]

^ yeah I think so to. AMD just want to make some kind of classification for their processor which I think is just right.
APUs got better graphics compared to intel processors, it's one of the huge advantage of the APUs. Plus, the integrated gpu can be crossfired if a compatible discrete graphics (6670 and I forgot the other one| 7750 as well) which is enough for an entry-level gamer.

[ET3D]

Integrated GPUs on Intel CPUs are integrated-class whereas integrated GPUs on AMD APUs are discrete-class.

What do you mean by this? An Intel GPU is faster than a discrete Radeon 5450, for example, or the graphics in a Brazos APU.

[najiro]

What do you mean by this? An Intel GPU is faster than a discrete Radeon 5450, for example, or the graphics in a Brazos APU.

Those were the FM1 APUs. they were kind of a "failure" and AMD will discontinue them in 2013.
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/29610-amd-llano-f1-to-disappear-after-q1-2013

FM2 APUs on the other hand have better iGPUs



APU Model
A10-5800K
A10-5700
A8-5600K
A8-5500
A6-5400K
A4-5300


AMD Radeon Brand
HD 7660D
HD 7660D
HD 7560D
HD 7560D
HD 7540D
HD 7480D

[werty316]

I wasn't stating the names of the integrated GPUs (ex. iGPU, APU, yada, yada) or the performance, I merely commented on the type of integrated GPUs which are used by each CPU company. Integrated GPU is what means, its a GPU that is integrated along side a another device which in case is a CPU. Discrete means a dedicated graphics cards which is what the GPUs on AMD APUs are AKA the Radeon HD6000/7000 series. I hope my wording makes sense.

[PP Mguire]

If Intel goes all BGA then I bet most of us will be using AMD in a few years time. Guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm hoping they just stick to mobile and low end for that.

[TehYoyo]

So iCPU, or whatever Intel calls them is a combo GPU/CPU? It's just a marketing thing?

[PP Mguire]

It's all marketing. Intel has always had some form of crap IGP and these days they are just built on to the CPU.

[CDsDontBurn]

It's all marketing. Intel has always had some form of crap IGP and these days they are just built on to the CPU.

and that's what makes it better than their previous "Intel Extreme Graphics" or w/e they used to call it back then.

[PP Mguire]

The only thing that makes them better is they are slightly better in the performance department than simply putting color on your screen. At least they can play 1080p videos and such.

[TehYoyo]

Ahh. Has AMD introduced something like Virtue-MVP where software switches the CPU/GPU combo and the dedicated GPU? I think that would be really beneficial.

[PP Mguire]

Ahh. Has AMD introduced something like Virtue-MVP where software switches the CPU/GPU combo and the dedicated GPU? I think that would be really beneficial.I'm pretty sure they have a technology like that as Nvidia has one too. I just don't know off hand.

[TehYoyo]

I'm pretty sure they have a technology like that as Nvidia has one too. I just don't know off hand.

Oh OK. Will you post it when you think of it? If you do?

[phenom2]

In order of importance:

1- Processor
Intel for speed, AMD for money/performance ratio

2- Motherboard
Gigabyte/Asus

3- Graphics Card
Sapphire/Club3D/MSI

4- Boot Drive
SSD Plextor or Samsung

5- Storage Drive
Western Digital or Hitachi

6- Chassis or Casing
In Win or CM

7- Power Supply
Enermax/ Corsair CM / In Win

8- Ram modules
Corsair / G.Skill

9- Peripherals (mice, keyboard, and other stuff you would want to have in your PC)

Logitech, Cooler Master

10- Monitor
Eizo (for the best quality), LG, Asus

11- Audio devices
Creative

12- Cooling solution (aircooling or watercooling)
Noctua for air cooling...and Corsair Hydro series for watercooling

[PP Mguire]

Oh OK. Will you post it when you think of it? If you do?Didn't see this before. All I did was put AMD and Virtu-MVP together in Google and came up with this.

http://www.techpowerup.com/168035/Lucid-Virtu-MVP-Now-Available-Through-100-Intel-and-AMD-Motherboard-Models.html

[najiro]

Didn't see this before. All I did was put AMD and Virtu-MVP together in Google and came up with this.

http://www.techpowerup.com/168035/Lucid-Virtu-MVP-Now-Available-Through-100-Intel-and-AMD-Motherboard-Models.html

Interesting. Lucid now available for AMD platform. that's nice. :) Hope AMD keeps up!
Competition is always good for the consumers.

[phenom2]

I've heard this software is so buggy!