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PP Mguire
12-19-2012, 06:12 PM
I want to hear your opinion on this. Keep it clean please.

brokenwave
12-19-2012, 06:39 PM
gun is one of the tool to kill stuff , people try to compare that to a car because cars kill more people than gun each year. but before carzy people start using cars instead of guns to kill people. use your brain, car got more than one funtions. gun only got one

werty316
12-19-2012, 09:01 PM
There are hundreds of thousands of guns and ammunition in circulation so enforcing a harsher gun control law is pointless because five-O isn't gonna go door to door.

Situations like the recent school shooting are very sad to here about however it is not the first time an incident like that has occurred and what has changed since that first time? Not a thing.

Pablo 54
12-19-2012, 10:15 PM
Preface: I have a brother that has several handguns and an aunt and uncle who used to hunt (aunt and uncle passed away from cancer). My father worked for a trucking company in the 60’s and 70’s- he always carried a gun. I carried an M-16 with an M-203 grenade launcher, was the gunner for our .50 and, at times, the gunner on our M-60. I was also the “shotgun” guy for riot training.

My personal feeling: It is outrageous to think that civilians can own weapons that approach and sometime surpass the killing power of an organized military. I would have to guess that our founding fathers could not have imagined the day when 1 person could fire more rounds in 10 seconds then twenty or thirty militiamen could unleash in 1 minute.

I don’t have any answers to the issue, only two suggestions. Think about reducing clip and magazine sizes and reinstate the AWB.

That’s all I’ve got to say.

ryandigweed
12-19-2012, 11:36 PM
There's the good and there's the bad. I mean a gun is good for self defense. And it's always good to know how to use one in case of an emergency. I'm thinking of trying out some guns myself. But bringing a gun into a home and keeping it there I think is kinda dangerous. What's going to happen if some kids try to access it even whilst under a key. I mean every kid would be like oh my dads got a gun. Let me try to open his drawer and show it to you. And bang.

Then again some people get quite drunk and or are very short tempered, and they make hasty decisions. I think those kind of people should be kept away from guns. I hope no body takes that as an offense.

Although in case of a Roberry, if someone is holding you up with a gun. And you show him a gun, he might have not intended to shoot you. But once he sees ur gun he's going to shoot you out of fright of being shot by you.

Just my thoughts on this

najiro
12-20-2012, 12:53 AM
Just want to share the current situation about this in my country.
My country currently imposes total gun ban to all private individuals. They can purchase one and have it licensed by the licensing is very strict. So many exams and you kinda need a solid reason to get one which usually goes like "because my life is threatened" kind of reasons which would be verified by the authorities first. Then there's a different license need if you want to carry it around with you which is more strict. Anyway, since there are too many guns out there already, the next step is not to collect and ban them.. fortify security is perhaps the next best move. In my country almost every business establishment have a security guard and 50-60% of them carries a gun. From 24/7 convenient stores to buses on a trip, they have guards. Every school, mall and other establishments that have people have strict entrances which are usually limited to 2-3 and everybody that passes there would be examined, have their bags opened, get you physically inspected (so that guards will touch your waist and some parts below which I think is something not usual in the US)... this is a normal thing here and I believe it does work somehow.

TehYoyo
12-20-2012, 02:52 AM
Here's my stance on the issue:

I do think that gun control is necessary, but not by stopping people from having guns. Assault weapon ban? I think it's sensible, but I think it's unconstitutional, and, however *potentially* dangerous to the general population it is, I do believe that we need to uphold the constitution whenever possible. I think that more in-depth background checks on anyone buying a gun should be a mandate. It could be paid for by the buyer, which would cut costs for the government.

Here's my rant:
I really hate how Obama (and I'm not one of those people who thinks that everything bad is Obama's fault) is using the tragedy at Sandy Hook to support his own policies. Please, leave politics out of this. The tragedy there is not a reason or justification to attack the other side and clarify why we need gun control. Please - this is a tragedy for every United States citizen and even people worldwide. Let's leave petty politics out of it.

PP Mguire
12-20-2012, 02:52 AM
Preface: I have a brother that has several handguns and an aunt and uncle who used to hunt (aunt and uncle passed away from cancer). My father worked for a trucking company in the 60’s and 70’s- he always carried a gun. I carried an M-16 with an M-203 grenade launcher, was the gunner for our .50 and, at times, the gunner on our M-60. I was also the “shotgun” guy for riot training.

My personal feeling: It is outrageous to think that civilians can own weapons that approach and sometime surpass the killing power of an organized military. I would have to guess that our founding fathers could not have imagined the day when 1 person could fire more rounds in 10 seconds then twenty or thirty militiamen could unleash in 1 minute.

I don’t have any answers to the issue, only two suggestions. Think about reducing clip and magazine sizes and reinstate the AWB.

That’s all I’ve got to say.Last time I checked it was illegal for a civilian to own fighter aircraft, a tank, or nuclear weaponry. The military will always have weapons that surpass the fire capacity that civilians have. Then again, one of the soul reasons why the 2nd amendment is there is for protection against the government if need be, or something along those lines.


There's the good and there's the bad. I mean a gun is good for self defense. And it's always good to know how to use one in case of an emergency. I'm thinking of trying out some guns myself. But bringing a gun into a home and keeping it there I think is kinda dangerous. What's going to happen if some kids try to access it even whilst under a key. I mean every kid would be like oh my dads got a gun. Let me try to open his drawer and show it to you. And bang.

Then again some people get quite drunk and or are very short tempered, and they make hasty decisions. I think those kind of people should be kept away from guns. I hope no body takes that as an offense.

Although in case of a Roberry, if someone is holding you up with a gun. And you show him a gun, he might have not intended to shoot you. But once he sees ur gun he's going to shoot you out of fright of being shot by you.

Just my thoughts on thisAll in the parenting honestly. One of my ex best friends grew up with .45s and shotguns in a case unlocked all his life. Never once did he touch one or even think it until he was old enough to learn how. Even then, never without his dads permission. He has worked at a gun range for the past 5 years and IMO could easily be their gunsmith if he wasn't so damn modest. I grew up with a shotgun in the house and I only fired it once. It was a flare for the 4th of July when I was 16. It never crossed my mind or my friends minds to even mess with it as I knew my dad would kill me if I touched it.
I can go as far as saying half the problems we have with my generation and the current generation is terrible parenting.

Saryn
12-20-2012, 04:34 AM
A gun is a tool. A spear is a tool. A hammer is a tool. A wire is a tool. You can kill with all four. Lets ban them all. Guns do not kill people, people kill people. Banning guns will not change anything.

brokenwave
12-20-2012, 05:17 AM
nobody here saying banning anything here, you are typing like a child, act with reason

A gun is a tool. A spear is a tool. A hammer is a tool. A wire is a tool. You can kill with all four. Lets ban them all. Guns do not kill people, people kill people. Banning guns will not change anything.

PP Mguire
12-20-2012, 05:42 AM
nobody here saying banning anything here, you are typing like a child, act with reason
Read the topic. We are discussing the possibility of the gun ban and/or stricter gun laws the government are tossing about.

ET3D
12-20-2012, 07:54 AM
A gun is a tool. A spear is a tool. A hammer is a tool. A wire is a tool. You can kill with all four. It's just way way easier to kill with a gun.

Figit090
12-20-2012, 08:20 AM
You can kill with a butter knife.


I think it's too easy to get too much devastation. Hand guns shooting six shots is a LOT of death, but a clip that can allow the killing of more than 30 people before reloading is absurd. Anyone that has any sort of hand-eye coordination could put a gun like that in single shot and...well....

I think semi-auto hunting rifles are also unnecessary, it's too easy to get the parts to make them fully-auto assault rifles. I think guns are something we'll have to deal with, but right now it's too easy to get guns that are just too deadly.

If you didn't have an assault rifle you'd have to carry numerous weapons just to reach the capacity of a large clip, or know how to reload fast enough to be nearly as deadly as one single assault rifle with a large magazine.
Reduce the available weaponry to single-shot weapons that you have to physically reload and it won't be so easy to stick your gun out the back of a moving car and rattle off 200 rounds at a police car. Yeah the baddies could get their weapons but it would be harder for the dummies and inexperienced nutjobs to get them. Right now I'm sure anyone with Google and a local gunshop could wait a few weeks, stick some pieces on a gun and have a fully automatic AK47. Around where I live, I'm sure lots of them DO.



I think people will always have guns, but being able to buy a gun at Walmart that looks like it belongs in a war doesn't seem right. We even make models of them to sell to kids, which doesn't seem to instill the best intentions to begin with, but I'm not going to start blaming issues with gun problems on media.

I think the comparison to cars isn't so valid because they don't have the strict rules they should have either, in my opinion. It's too easy for a poor driver and irresponsible people to 1) get a license 2) keep a license after making SERIOUS mistakes.

Joshua_Mahr
12-20-2012, 04:07 PM
Just my stupid lil two cents. I can throw knifes as fast as a normal person can shoot a revolver. It's how my parents raised me that tells me I should not go around using that ability. Do I think we should ban guns, NO! But there should some kind of random checks on someone who has a stockpile of guns or other weapons. I have a modest amount and I would have no objections for a surprise visit from a sheriff to check if they are properly stored and locked.

ryandigweed
12-24-2012, 12:34 PM
Just my stupid lil two cents. I can throw knifes as fast as a normal person can shoot a revolver. It's how my parents raised me that tells me I should not go around using that ability. Do I think we should ban guns, NO! But there should some kind of random checks on someone who has a stockpile of guns or other weapons. I have a modest amount and I would have no objections for a surprise visit from a sheriff to check if they are properly stored and locked.


Wow you need to teach me how to throw knives that fast. Ahha. But according to a mythbusters episode. They concluded that a a person with a knife cannot defend as well with a throwing knife. He may throw a knife at the gun guys chest. But he would also get a bullet most probably at the same time.

Joshua_Mahr
12-24-2012, 01:06 PM
Well aware. That's why "you don't bring a knife to a gunfight."

ryandigweed
12-24-2012, 04:37 PM
Well aware. That's why "you don't bring a knife to a gunfight."



But you still need to teach me to throw knives!

I just Carry a swiss knife around. Not a throwing knife though

Goliath182
12-24-2012, 05:44 PM
The government (*cough* democrats *cough*) is not going to take away your guns, end of discussion in my mind. Why this continues to be an issue amazes me.

TehYoyo
12-24-2012, 11:22 PM
The government (*cough* democrats *cough*) is not going to take away your guns, end of discussion in my mind. Why this continues to be an issue amazes me.

Well it's certainly something that is being discussed... Do you have any facts backing up your assumption?

PP Mguire
12-25-2012, 06:30 PM
Well it's certainly something that is being discussed... Do you have any facts backing up your assumption?

Have to agree with this. So far every thing is pointing at them slipping in different guns under the AR ban.