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Pablo 54
12-23-2012, 01:02 PM
It’s been a long time since I purchased an AMD chip so this is purely for my own edification. If I were to build an AMB based system, what would a good solid build look like? I know I could easily put together a snappy Intel based system but I have completely lost touch with what AMD has been doing over the past several years.

I was thinking an FX-8350 paired with an ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX.

Just wondering.

najiro
12-23-2012, 01:34 PM
Interesting, I consider those as "high-end" parts. What are you planning for the build in terms of usage? Gaming? I was an AMD guy before since I like that AMD stuff are cheaper and the AM3+ socket offers a lot of options from athlons, phenoms, bulldozers and piledrivers. AMD boards are also cheaper.

foxmobouser
12-23-2012, 03:14 PM
It’s been a long time since I purchased an AMD chip so this is purely for my own edification. If I were to build an AMB based system, what would a good solid build look like? I know I could easily put together a snappy Intel based system but I have completely lost touch with what AMD has been doing over the past several years.

I was thinking an FX-8350 paired with an ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX.

Just wondering.

I'd have to say you really should get some AMD chips there alot of fun (build/overclock learning curve is just so different from intel). There can be a few different solid builds depending on budget and needs, I'd say:

1: A10-5800k paird with ASRock FM2A85X Extreme6 FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4)

2. FX-8350 paired with an ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX

3. FX-8150 paired with ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX

theres some nice cheaper motherboards depending on what features you need and keep in mind the Steamroller is coming out in 2013

Pablo 54
12-23-2012, 06:27 PM
An all-around build that could do video editing, some light gaming and a bit of Photoshop.

My first overclock I ever attempted was with an Athlon on an Asus board. I was very naive and way over confident in my abilities. The end result was a flash and a puff of smoke followed by a comment something like, “You are a dumb a**” from my wife.

Is anyone running a CAD program on their builds?

PP Mguire
12-23-2012, 06:43 PM
I personally think AMD is a waste of money besides certain niche builds. They sell Phenom 2 955s for less than 100 on Newegg now though. I would have lots of fun having one of those again.

I'm not running any CAD but I could. Any specific reason?

foxmobouser
12-23-2012, 07:52 PM
If your not going to do big overclocking or need all those expansion slots then the ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX is a tad bit of an overkill.

Cody_Irwin
12-23-2012, 10:23 PM
I still have yet to go to AMD, As their motherboards cost as much as a processor, I just want to try my FM1 Processor since no one wants it! lol

Pablo 54
12-23-2012, 11:08 PM
My son will be taking some classes next year (CAD).

I would just love to build something with an AMD chip at the core. Their prices seem exceptionaly low for what you are getting but the trade off in performance is pretty steep.

foxmobouser
12-23-2012, 11:26 PM
My son will be taking some classes next year (CAD).

I would just love to build something with an AMD chip at the core. Their prices seem exceptionaly low for what you are getting but the trade off in performance is pretty steep.

I really haven't noticed any difference in real life performance use between my intel rig in sig and the AMD system other than the price tag.

As for CAD I heard ATI firepro cards work the best.



I still have yet to go to AMD, As their motherboards cost as much as a processor, I just want to try my FM1 Processor since no one wants it! lol

Just built one yesterday for an HTPC, its in my sig, CPU +mobo 55$, case 29$, HD 6450 14$ for crossfire Total= 98$

PP Mguire
12-23-2012, 11:58 PM
I really haven't noticed any difference in real life performance use between my intel rig in sig and the AMD system other than the price tag.

As for CAD I heard ATI firepro cards work the best.




Just built one yesterday for an HTPC, its in my sig, CPU +mobo 55$, case 29$, HD 6450 14$ for crossfire Total= 98$

For regular every day things there isn't much of a difference. If you aren't balls to the wall on wanting to suck every bit of performance out AMD chips are fine. I do a lot of heavy CPU things now and I wouldn't trade my 3960x for any "8" core AMD. Idk though, all of my Intel rigs feel faster and mostly are than any AMD setup I've used.

werty316
12-24-2012, 12:05 AM
If you are on a tight budget then AMD is a good route.

najiro
12-24-2012, 12:55 AM
I still have yet to go to AMD, As their motherboards cost as much as a processor, I just want to try my FM1 Processor since no one wants it! lol
FM1 line is about to be halted this 2013. FM2 on the other hand is very promising IMHO. A10-5800k crossfired should be enough for gaming and still beat an i3 build. Performance wise, intel builds are still faster on high-end builds and the vishera-sabertooth amd setup can get you an i5-2500k-P8Z77-V build which is better in terms of both performance and efficiency. Still, I really think AMD wins the lower-end build with their FM2 IMHO.

brokenwave
12-24-2012, 03:09 AM
i don't think is the cpu need to worry about, it's the video card that you need to think

My son will be taking some classes next year (CAD).

I would just love to build something with an AMD chip at the core. Their prices seem exceptionaly low for what you are getting but the trade off in performance is pretty steep.

CDsDontBurn
12-24-2012, 07:02 AM
The 8x50 series CPUs are truly a waste unless you are continuously using applications that are taking advantage of all 8 cores. Otherwise, it would be better to go with a quad-core CPU such as the FX-4170. At leas there, most applications will be able to better use a quad-core CPU over an octo-core CPU.

Goliath182
12-24-2012, 05:26 PM
i don't think is the cpu need to worry about, it's the video card that you need to think

Really depends on what you're doing. If you're doing a lot (and I mean a lot) of simulation work then sure, but it sounds like hes just taking a beginning class which would go over very basic simulations at the most. I'd save a boat load of money and just go for a consumer card over a Firepro.

I've used SolidWorks and NX on my current and previous builds. Runs just fine on anything, like I mentioned before its when you start simulating that stuff starts slowing down.

That Guy
12-24-2012, 11:17 PM
Are you just looking for a good CPU/Motherboard combo? That's really the only thing that needs to be AMD-based.

I think if you're looking to go the AMD route, you really have to get a cheap Phenom II... if you're getting a $200 AMD processor, why not just get a 2500k? It doesn't make a lot of sense. Something like this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727).

najiro
12-25-2012, 06:37 AM
I think he already have a motherboard considering the way he posted the thread. If you do have the motherboard, why bother going for another platform. As long as you don't go beyond what seems to be inefficient, there's always that threshold wherein enough is enough performance-wise.

Pablo 54
12-25-2012, 03:05 PM
Change to the plan…
I have 2 HTPC’s that I built for my house. Since having family over for the holidays, two of my in-laws would like me to build something similar to what I have (both are Intel based 2400 & 2100t). I have read a few articles about Trinity and would like to give it a whirl. Does anyone have an AMD based HTPC or know of some in-depth reviews I can access? If not, I will go with the tried and true.

My systems can play anything and everything without a hitch.

foxmobouser
12-25-2012, 05:25 PM
Well my cheapo HTPC was built 3 days ago and its already up and running, its in my sig as setup #3. I've used it to stream and watch netflix yesterday on a 42 inch TV and all was great. I have it paired with a microsoft 800 wireless desktop.

PP Mguire
12-25-2012, 06:12 PM
Change to the plan…
I have 2 HTPC’s that I built for my house. Since having family over for the holidays, two of my in-laws would like me to build something similar to what I have (both are Intel based 2400 & 2100t). I have read a few articles about Trinity and would like to give it a whirl. Does anyone have an AMD based HTPC or know of some in-depth reviews I can access? If not, I will go with the tried and true.

My systems can play anything and everything without a hitch.Then I have to say APU all the way. Them are some good stuff.

CDsDontBurn
12-26-2012, 04:42 AM
Change to the plan…
I have 2 HTPC’s that I built for my house. Since having family over for the holidays, two of my in-laws would like me to build something similar to what I have (both are Intel based 2400 & 2100t). I have read a few articles about Trinity and would like to give it a whirl. Does anyone have an AMD based HTPC or know of some in-depth reviews I can access? If not, I will go with the tried and true.

My systems can play anything and everything without a hitch.

At work, my work station is an AMD A6-3650 on a Gigabyte A55M board w/4GB of RAM and it works like a champ. Additionally, some of my test stations are similar setups but with slight variations in the MoBos and RAM like A75 and 8GB of RAM, etc. These also work out great for all the GPU testing I do with them.

najiro
12-26-2012, 11:22 AM
I agree with CDs, a FM1 or FM2 build should be enough for a HTPC. However, I would lean towards FM2 since it is more efficient

Pablo 54
12-26-2012, 11:49 AM
Thanks all. I feel a bit better about my choices now. Not sure when they will want them but I will let you know about the builds.