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Fantasma
02-10-2006, 07:06 PM
I donīt know how they can do an OS with such an incompatibility, I think that microsoft is laughing at us with the damn Vista:

JON PEDDIE said that 50% of the PCs used now generation integrated graphics that won't be able to run Vista Glass.
That, said Peddie, means there are nearly a billion PCs in use which in his words have "antiquated integrated graphics".

Great news for the graphics companies because add in boards will be required to run the new OS.

But we suspect large corporations rolling out PC systems today will be sticking with what they know and not buying add in cards which would be a mare to install and support.

Which means they won't want to be upgrading to Microsoft Vista any time real soon. All silver has a cloudy lining. ĩ


http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29633

PUTALE
02-10-2006, 08:01 PM
this is purely understandable as the graphic demand of teh Vista is far beyong today's xp. however, this is only talking about Aero, so i am sure if people tone down the eyecandies, they should be able to use the OS without invest too much on the graphic upgrade.

Frank Marino
02-10-2006, 08:47 PM
It's just the glass effect that take so much power right? I was reading about that in some old issue of PC magazine the other day. Frankly, even if my computer can run the effects, I don't know if I want to waste resources and power on something so insignificant.

shanewu
02-10-2006, 09:13 PM
Most companies are not early adopters of software anyway. If Vista came out today, many companies wouldn't switch to it for a year or two (if not more) and by then, they will probably hit their hardware upgrade time anyway. :)

Frank Marino
02-10-2006, 10:09 PM
But won't it still hurt performance? I would assume that while gaming, glass effects would shut off and not affect anything, but what about intensive windows apps, like Photoshop?

zachig
02-11-2006, 07:39 PM
I don't like guess. You'll just have to wait and see. Call me an optimistic, but I have a good feeling that it'll be OK and it'll run on most (if not all) PCs. :?

Bio-Hazard
02-11-2006, 07:57 PM
I'm not all that worried about it right now as I don't really plan on switching over right away anyway. And when I do I'll more than likely build a new box that's setup up for the OS, so it won't be a big deal.......... :shock:

PUTALE
02-11-2006, 11:07 PM
Most companies are not early adopters of software anyway. If Vista came out today, many companies wouldn't switch to it for a year or two (if not more) and by then, they will probably hit their hardware upgrade time anyway. :)

that's true. In fact quite a lot of companies are still using windows 2K and few are even using older OS. I think that it's a good idea for the companies actually switching to new OS as it's more stable.

Generally speaking, I think most PC that were biuld/bought over last year or two should run Vista fine, provided that you got a decent graphic card I think. I think even if you don't have the graphic card that support aero, you can still run the OS under normal mode.

Fantasma
02-13-2006, 09:58 AM
Yes, you can run the Vista OS, but it is appearing a lot of incompatibilities like one that I read sometime ago that old monitors couldnīt run Vista because of some chip or another one that said that old DVD and CD burners canīt run it because of some feature that usually the OS itself do it but Vista wonīt do it and you had to buy new burners.

Anyway, coming again to the topic, the Vista Glass is a waste of resources and graphics potential, imagine if one person has the overclocking in the graphics card all day, when working in 3D and working in 2D. If you are using 3D all day, the cards suffers more and gets hotter, so probably, your card is going to last less

pym
02-13-2006, 11:21 AM
the Vista Glass is a waste of resources and graphics potential, imagine if one person has the overclocking in the graphics card all day, when working in 3D and working in 2D. If you are using 3D all day, the cards suffers more and gets hotter, so probably, your card is going to last less

Well, it is a choice, it's not a must...
Xp has it's own eye candies that takes a lot of resources, you may remove them to get much faster reactions...
So it depends on the user and how much he wants to invest in order to get the whole package that Vista has to offer.

BlackStar
02-13-2006, 05:31 PM
This happens everytime Microsoft releases a new OS. Windows 95 was had issues, and forced everyone to upgrade their hardware. XP was even worse on older hardware.

I'm not a big Microsoft fanboy, but it's funny how everyone get's so upset when the new OS requires better hardware, more memory, or harddrive space. Seems to me that MS has to create an OS that will last 3 to 5 years and are looking at what hardware will be mainstream then, not what hardware is already mainstream or outdated.

pym
02-13-2006, 10:23 PM
This is a very nice read regarding the subject.

Taek a look:
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6143883/index.html

BlackStar
02-14-2006, 02:25 PM
Nice overview, pym. Thanks.

As they say, looks like waiting for new DirectX 10 hardware would be the way to go if you want the full effect.

pym
02-14-2006, 04:30 PM
You're welcome ;)
It is a great article that sums up all the issues we discussed over here.
About DX 10, yeah, as always, we'll need a better hardware to support better graphics, this has nothing to do with Vista...

PUTALE
02-14-2006, 06:51 PM
I think all the confusion and guessing will be cleared when vista is out and people start testing it :lol: