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zachig
04-08-2006, 09:12 PM
Please post here how much you scored in 3DMark06 with your Video Card! :D

Here's how my XFX 6800GS (485/1100@521/1200) scored in 3DMark06: 3039 Pts

http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/6301/3dmark066fa.th.jpg (http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark066fa.jpg)

pc_man_iac
04-08-2006, 09:14 PM
ok Here we go looks like I will try here is mine

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/projectdetails.jsp?projectType=14

4079

Bio-Hazard
04-08-2006, 09:25 PM
My X800XL gets like a 1000 or something, I'll have to load 06 and run it again...........it takes like forever to complete with my card.................. :cry:

werty316
04-08-2006, 09:34 PM
4031
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=82156

ok Here we go looks like I will try here is mine

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/projectdetails.jsp?projectType=14

4079

Links like those don't show your score gimp, it just logs the user to there account. It has to be likn teh link uptop or it won't show.

pc_man_iac
04-08-2006, 09:49 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=234135

fine than

Bio-Hazard
04-08-2006, 10:20 PM
OK, here ya go.............. :shock:

1941 3DMarks

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=234723

pym
04-09-2006, 07:35 AM
That's a pretty nice score. zachig!
I am waiting for my new XFX 7800GT to arrive and then run the 3D Mark 06 with it (after I buy some new hardware and move to PCI-E)...

Can't wait to see how it scores ;)

zachig
04-09-2006, 08:10 AM
That's a pretty nice score. zachig!
I am waiting for my new XFX 7800GT to arrive and then run the 3D Mark 06 with it (after I buy some new hardware and move to PCI-E)...

Can't wait to see how it scores ;)

Thanks, pym :D . I really hope you'll get your new 7800GT soon... :wink:

Be sure to let us know how it scores in 3DMark as soon as you get it... :)

werty316
04-10-2006, 05:02 AM
He'll probably get somewhere between 7500-8300 depending if a dualcore is used and if he OCs the card.

pc_man_iac
04-10-2006, 12:43 PM
Yeah Werty I dont think that he will get that high in 3dmark 06 , between 7500-8300 prolly in 05 but not 06[/quote]

Bio-Hazard
04-10-2006, 02:16 PM
If he were to OC the poop out of everything he could get up to those scores in 06................. :wink:
The top 7800GT on the ORB is getting just shy of 9000, but seeing as pym doesn't OC really, he may get into the 6000 range.


http://service.futuremark.com/orb/projectsearch.jsp

z3r0C00L
04-10-2006, 04:48 PM
The 9,000 number is with SLI... without SLI those cards don't post such great numbers.

A single x1900XTX paired with an Athlon64 X2 4600+ will score about 6,000 points with the x1900 oc'ed to 690/1600.

pym
04-10-2006, 05:17 PM
If he were to OC the poop out of everything he could get up to those scores in 06................. :wink:
The top 7800GT on the ORB is getting just shy of 9000, but seeing as pym doesn't OC really, he may get into the 6000 range.


http://service.futuremark.com/orb/projectsearch.jsp

Well, I do OC my cards usually, but not too much...
I don't invest too much time in it, what I get in a few minutes os tweaking is what stays...
I'll update you soon with what I get ;)

werty316
04-10-2006, 06:57 PM
Yeah Werty I dont think that he will get that high in 3dmark 06 , between 7500-8300 prolly in 05 but not 06

Oh wait sorry I thought I posted this in teh 05 topic, my bad.

Bio-Hazard
04-10-2006, 09:07 PM
LOL........... :P :arrow: :arrow: :mrgreen: :paw:

Chakka
04-11-2006, 02:29 AM
My 3dmark06 score with the XFX 7900gt 520mhz version was 5027. I ran it twice and the lower score was 5024.

Now lets say I could overclock the card without voiding the warranty, which I havent, but you could probably expect to see an XFX XXX 7900gt 560mhz version achieve scores around 5400.

Bio-Hazard
04-11-2006, 02:59 AM
Reg with Futuremark and you can post your scores to their ORB so the other members can compare directly with theirs if they would like. I makes things a lot nicer and iit's free.


http://service.futuremark.com/orb/index.jsp

Chakka
04-11-2006, 04:59 AM
Reg with Futuremark and you can post your scores to their ORB so the other members can compare directly with theirs if they would like. I makes things a lot nicer and iit's free.


http://service.futuremark.com/orb/index.jsp

What, you didnt believe me? After all weve been through...lol...here is the 3dmark06 link for the default:
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/projectdetails.jsp?projectType=14&projectId=235254

And here is another one giving someone an idea of buying the 7900gt XXX version at 560mhz.
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/projectdetails.jsp?projectType=14&projectId=235265

Bio-Hazard
04-11-2006, 05:18 AM
Links aren't working for me here either............. :shock:

werty316
04-11-2006, 05:50 AM
Yep they are invalid. Make sure you "publish" the benchmark scores.

Chakka
04-11-2006, 01:07 PM
Yep they are invalid. Make sure you "publish" the benchmark scores.

I havent been forced to publish on the web before so Ill figure it out later tonight and post again. I checked last night (around midnight my time) and the link was fine not realizing it went directly to my project manager page while I was still logged in. :?

pc_man_iac
04-11-2006, 04:55 PM
you have to publish to compare thing so other ppl can see it and well compare...

Chakka
04-11-2006, 07:32 PM
Ok, I think I got it here - my high score:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=235265

pc_man_iac
04-11-2006, 07:38 PM
yay this one works too

liqnit
04-12-2006, 05:11 PM
my result
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=241139

3470 on 1280*1024
i cannot change the resolution to lower.

Bio-Hazard
04-12-2006, 05:59 PM
It's still alot better than what I'm getting with my old X800XL.............. :cry:

werty316
04-12-2006, 06:18 PM
my result
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=241139

3470 on 1280*1024
i cannot change the resolution to lower.

No need to since 1280x1024 is the default setting; unless you pay for the product.

kangaruffian
04-12-2006, 07:11 PM
My Gainward 7800GT GLH gives over 4000 i'm pretty happy :)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=241676

werty316
04-12-2006, 07:27 PM
Oc'ing can do that.

Bio-Hazard
04-13-2006, 12:08 AM
Oc'ing can do that.

You bet your butt it helps............... :twisted: But on some cards all the OC'ing in the world doesn't help................. :evil:

Chakka
04-13-2006, 12:27 AM
Oc'ing can do that.

You bet your butt it helps............... :twisted: But on some cards all the OC'ing in the world doesn't help................. :evil:

Did you see the score that this 7900gt did on both 3dmark05 & 06? From what I can tell, the scores that I got beat the 7800gtx 512mb and approaches closely the base 7900gtx from the reviews that I have looked at.

Can you see why I want to keep this card even though the fan wont power down - if XFX support cant help me on this, I put an after market silent cooling device on the card even if it voids my warranty....

Scott Sherman
04-13-2006, 02:36 AM
9072

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3340

Chakka
04-13-2006, 03:40 AM
9072

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3340

Great score from what I can tell...I assume your running SLI based on your sig. Did you test each card individually?

werty316
04-15-2006, 10:53 PM
Great score from what I can tell...I assume your running SLI based on your sig. Did you test each card individually?

Probably somewhere around half of that score.

liqnit
04-17-2006, 06:24 PM
After some OC : 3729
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=251443

CPU : AMD 3200@2400Mhz
VGA CORE : 479Mhz
VGA Memory : 1.25Ghz

zachig
04-18-2006, 08:17 AM
WOW!!! That's a pretty good score, liqnit. Well done!!!

I still think you can push it further, to let's say...over 4000... :rolleyes:

Anyway, like always, be careful!!! ;)

Bio-Hazard
04-18-2006, 02:02 PM
I wish my card would score as high as that..........:( Good job.

liqnit
04-18-2006, 03:00 PM
WOW!!! That's a pretty good score, liqnit. Well done!!!

I still think you can push it further, to let's say...over 4000... :rolleyes:

Anyway, like always, be careful!!! ;)
thanks
the 1.25Ghz for mem was amazing for me i was afraid to take it higher
but i think it go higher...
maybe it will ;)

Bio-Hazard
04-18-2006, 03:06 PM
It wouldn't take all that much more to push your scores over 4K, I'd go for it if for no other reason than just to get the highest possible score.............;)

liqnit
04-19-2006, 04:38 AM
It wouldn't take all that much more to push your scores over 4K, I'd go for it if for no other reason than just to get the highest possible score.............;)
i gues you are righ but i still need to get a good reading of my card temp before OC too much .
i don't want to hurt him i use currently the reding from the driver page which is not convineint

Bio-Hazard
04-19-2006, 04:42 AM
I would think that the utility that came with the card would show the temps and control the fan. If it's not working, you might want to as the XFX guys for a little help.............;)

liqnit
04-19-2006, 05:53 PM
Thanks good Idea

zachig
04-20-2006, 10:04 AM
OH...BTW, liqnit, I'm always using "rthdribl" (Real-Time High Dynamic Range Image-Based Lighting) to test the maximum temps of my Video Card, as it heats up the Video Card very fast and the card reaches MUCH HIGER temps that it reaches with 3DMark...

I'm always running it for AT LEAST 10 Minutes and watch the temps go all the way uo ;).

You can download it here:
http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/

Bio-Hazard
04-20-2006, 01:34 PM
I use that and ATiTool artifact tester to heat things up..........;) ATiTool also motors the temps and fan speed, that is if you have a fan...........:)

ATiTool also works with Nvidia cards if you wanted to know.

"Major changes to the latest stable version are:

Added support for NVIDIA video cards
Addded support for ATI X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900
Added voltage control for ATI X1800
Added current draw monitoring for ATI X1800
Added VDDCI change for ATI X1900
Fan & Voltage settings can be saved to a profile now "http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/

zachig
04-20-2006, 02:34 PM
I really didn't know that ATItool works also on nVidia Card.

It's really good to know that. THX!!! ;)

Bio-Hazard
04-20-2006, 02:50 PM
It's just been added in the latest version, 0.25 Beta 14.
I have no idea as to what cards it supports, but give it a try, can't hurt.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/Tweaking/ATITool

zachig
04-20-2006, 03:30 PM
Thanks, Bio. I'll give it a try on my XFX 6800GS...;)

werty316
04-20-2006, 05:53 PM
Sweet ATITool is one great program and now that nVidia cards have been added this is sweet. Hopefully its stable since its a beta version.

Bio-Hazard
04-20-2006, 05:59 PM
Sweet ATITool is one great program and now that nVidia cards have been added this is sweet. Hopefully its stable since its a beta version.
It's been working perfactly for me with my ATi card, I always get the newest release as soon as it's out. I've yet to have a problem with it.......;)

werty316
04-20-2006, 06:01 PM
Yeah but this is first version supporting nVidia cards. Sorry thats what I meant.

Bio-Hazard
04-20-2006, 06:08 PM
I still don't think it'll be a problem, the guy writing the progran has been at it for some time and to add additional cards shouldn't be that big of a deal, just a matter of adding in the hardware monitoring code and the like, but I'm no programmer, so what do I know............;)

Chakka
04-21-2006, 03:48 AM
Do you think this tool will work on my 7900gt? Its the major complaint that I have with this video card. The temp is currently at 40c but the fan speed never changes.

Bio-Hazard
04-21-2006, 04:39 AM
I'd give it a try, it's a small download and if you don't like it or it doesn't work, just get rid of it. No harm done.
My last Nvidia based card was a TNT2 GPU and that was long before ATiTool days so I haven't have the chance to play with ATiTool on any current Nvidia based cards, but I'm hoping that will change very soon.......;)

Kougar
04-21-2006, 09:53 AM
Alright... Default settings on 3DMark06 I scored a grand total of 582 marks, although my CPU score was 693...

Um, on a slightly more useful note... 3dmark06 Under the Magnifying Glass (http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/04/03/3dmark06_under_the_magnifying_glass/) is a full analysis of how it computes the score.

As opposed to earlier 3dMark programs, the CPU tests are now built into the final score, and ya cab expect a lack of SM3 support to cut the graphics score by half just about...

liqnit
04-21-2006, 01:08 PM
I use that and ATiTool artifact tester to heat things up..........;) ATiTool also motors the temps and fan speed, that is if you have a fan...........:)

ATiTool also works with Nvidia cards if you wanted to know.

"Major changes to the latest stable version are:
Added support for NVIDIA video cards
Addded support for ATI X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900
Added voltage control for ATI X1800
Added current draw monitoring for ATI X1800
Added VDDCI change for ATI X1900
Fan & Voltage settings can be saved to a profile now "http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/

thanks it is just what i wanted an appliaction outside the Driver to show the temp
i still cant see the Fan speed but i hope it will show on next betas

z3r0C00L
04-26-2006, 12:24 AM
x1900XT with Athlon64 X2 3800+ @ 2.8GHz.

Scored 6,581 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=265476)

This is my secondary rig... the one with the nice Blue and Red Cathodes ..;)

werty316
04-26-2006, 01:04 AM
New Score

A64 @ 2.4Ghz
XFX 7800GTX @ STOCK

4102
http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc195/th_10056_3dMark06__v84.43_Beta__High_Performance__ 4102.jpg (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc195&image=10056_3dMark06__v84.43_Beta__High_Performanc e__4102.jpg)

Bio-Hazard
04-26-2006, 04:11 AM
Hopefully in a few weeks I'll be able to post mine with the CPU cranked up to around 2.7-2.8 with a pretty new card. I'll just have to learn how to OC the beast a little first though.

Kougar
04-26-2006, 04:48 AM
Hopefully in a few weeks I'll be able to post mine with the CPU cranked up to around 2.7-2.8 with a pretty new card. I'll just have to learn how to OC the beast a little first though.

Well, you've doubtlessly heard of all of these often enough but even if beta 14 of ATI Tool doesn't support it yet, you can use the artifact detection on it paired with Coolbits. Rivatuner seems to also be popular for Nvidia users...

I'll say it again though, you better be nice to that card, or else! ;)

Bio-Hazard
04-26-2006, 05:00 AM
I think I'm just going to go with the Nvidia included software to start with to see how it works out and move on from there.
Don't worry, I'll treat it like a baby...........;) and protct it from overheating and all the good stuff...............:rolleyes:

Kougar
04-26-2006, 05:31 AM
I think I'm just going to go with the Nvidia included software to start with to see how it works out and move on from there.
Don't worry, I'll treat it like a baby...........;) and protct it from overheating and all the good stuff...............:rolleyes:

I didn't know nVidia included anything of the sort?? Or are they following in the footsteps of ATI and changing their stance on overclocking?

Bio-Hazard
04-26-2006, 04:47 PM
XFX supplies some stuff along with their cards from what I understand, I won't know for sure till I get the card. This will be the first Nvidia based card I've used in several years, so I'm really looking forward to it............;)

"Now overclocking this card brings up another interesting point on the XFX 7900GT. When browsing the driver CD supplied with the video card you'll see one of the available utilities labeled Overclock Utility.

I was very surprised when clicking the utility to find that XFX had included the Coolbits overclocking tool on the driver CD for your tweaking pleasure. Also included is a basic overclocking guide for those new to tuning there systems for maximum performance. The guide is entitled:
XFX: Overclcoking.
Taking off the sneakers and lacing up some steel-toe boots"

http://www.bleedinedge.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=93&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=3

zachig
04-26-2006, 04:56 PM
The guide is entitled:
XFX: Overclcoking.
Taking off the sneakers and lacing up some steel-toe boots"

(http://www.bleedinedge.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=93&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=3)


Hehehe!!! :D That's why I like XFX so much...;)

zachig
05-05-2006, 05:29 PM
Here's my new 3DMark06 score with my new MSI 7800GTX@470/1300:

4618 Pts

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4499/3dmark060nc.th.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark060nc.jpg)

Bio-Hazard
05-05-2006, 06:28 PM
That's a pretty good increase you got from your old card...............;)

Bio-Hazard
05-10-2006, 04:41 AM
Here's my first run with 3D Mark 06:

http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/6995/3dm061bx.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=288952

werty316
05-10-2006, 05:36 AM
Very nice score.

Bio-Hazard
05-10-2006, 06:13 AM
Thanks, I really need to get a new CPU now, this old A64 3000 is killing me.............;)

werty316
05-10-2006, 06:34 AM
Hehe I don't know about that as I am pretty happy with my 3000+ which can OC with ease to 2.4GHz at 1.4V and I have had it to 2.86GHz once for testing. Benchmark programs like 3dmark06 don't convince me to get a dualcore since only a few if not alot of games take fulll advantage of a dualcore. Pretty much any new game released relies much more on a powerful VGA.

Kougar
05-10-2006, 07:33 AM
Dual-core still helps, as even if the game is single threaded you still can offload Windows and it's hundreds of threads onto the second core, to free up the first one completely for your game. So really it doesn't even matter if the game is single or dual threaded, dual-core still helps to some degree.

Oh, and I still like my 3dmark06 score of 582 ;) I'll see if I can improve that any... lol.

Bio-Hazard
05-10-2006, 01:38 PM
This card is still a great improvment over my old X800XL though. With my X80XL I got 1941 points on 3D Mark 06 at max OC on both the CPU and video card, and now I'm up to 4498 with both the CPU and video card at around mid range.

tomato
05-10-2006, 04:56 PM
Nice score, sbrehm! Just a biiiit of an increase from your old card, eh? ;) :P

zachig
05-10-2006, 05:02 PM
WOW, that's a very nice score, Bio!!! I hardly get mine (7800GTX) to 4300 when overclocked to 470/1300! :( (And that's also with my X2 3800+)

werty316
05-10-2006, 05:11 PM
Dual-core still helps, as even if the game is single threaded you still can offload Windows and it's hundreds of threads onto the second core, to free up the first one completely for your game. So really it doesn't even matter if the game is single or dual threaded, dual-core still helps to some degree.

Oh, and I still like my 3dmark06 score of 582 ;) I'll see if I can improve that any... lol.


I don't think alot of people would use the second core for windows apps while gaming. After all you want full frames when gaming

Kougar
05-10-2006, 07:51 PM
I don't think alot of people would use the second core for windows apps while gaming. After all you want full frames when gaming

That is not what I said. You have to run windows itself in the background while you are playing any game... having one core solely devoted to your game with windows itself using the second core inherently will improve game performance, regardless of whether or not it is a single or multi-threaded game.

werty316
05-10-2006, 07:55 PM
If you don't have any apps running while playing a game windows won't really use the 2nd core at all. When windows isn't running any apps there is no load hence no reason to use the 2nd core. As it stands single cores are better for gaming.

mousiness
05-10-2006, 07:58 PM
at the moment the most processor you need is intels 6xx line and amds 3500 and up for AMD64s, you really dont need dual core for the moment but in a year or so there will be need for dual core, and what wery just said is true, single cores are much better for gaming because for gaming you need all the power you can get, dual core at the moment is simply futureproofing your pc

werty316
05-10-2006, 08:04 PM
Lets hope dualcore cpus are futureproof. After all 64-bit didn't really catch on.

mousiness
05-10-2006, 10:49 PM
i was actually thinking that exact same thing, dual core cpus might not be futureproof and 64 bit computing hasnt made even a bit of an imapct on our computing... hmm, just like what they say, most of the features of our pcs are never used.

Bio-Hazard
05-22-2006, 09:10 PM
Figured I'd post a 06 run also.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=309895 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=309895)

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1856/3dm0618zj.jpg

mousiness
05-22-2006, 09:12 PM
nonetheless still very impressive with a 3000+, i wish i could pull of scores like that

werty316
05-22-2006, 09:51 PM
WC'ing helps alot. I had my 3000+ at 2.7GHz @ 1.7V once for testing and I will not try that again.

mousiness
05-22-2006, 09:55 PM
LOL very dangerous levels right there, WC'ing helps a lot, hes running his 3000+ at 2.7ghz all the time

Bio-Hazard
05-22-2006, 10:06 PM
And the great thing about my cooling system is that neither the CPU or GPU goes over 35c under max load....................;)

werty316
05-22-2006, 10:13 PM
Gotta love those triple rads ;)

mousiness
05-22-2006, 10:17 PM
And the great thing about my cooling system is that neither the CPU or GPU goes over 35c under max load....................;)
pfft mine goes all the way to 60c at max load (my main pc) and my IBM goes way up to 75c at full load

Dezz
06-06-2006, 09:02 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=332470

9418 not much but I am trying to learn to overclock this rig :)

werty316
06-06-2006, 09:07 PM
Holy crap that is nice score; nice rig and I bet those 7900GT SLi helped.

Dezz
06-06-2006, 09:12 PM
LOL they had to help I sux at overclocking but I want to learn :roll:

werty316
06-06-2006, 09:23 PM
Here an article that is indepth:

http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=300

Dezz
06-06-2006, 09:24 PM
Thank you sir :grin:

mousiness
06-06-2006, 10:00 PM
why does it show the fx-60 as an x2? are the fx-60's reworked 4800+ cores?

werty316
06-06-2006, 10:02 PM
FX-60 is a dual core CPU.

Bio-Hazard
06-07-2006, 11:50 PM
I did a bit of tweaking on my system and got a few more points.............;) Just think of what I could get running a SLi rig.........:)

Score: 4713

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=335145

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9695/3dm0624lg.jpg

zachig
06-08-2006, 05:43 AM
Well done, sbrehm!!! That's a very good score for 7900GT with a Single-Cored 3000+ CPU. I bet you could easily break the 5K barrier with a nice X2 3800+...:wink:

Bio-Hazard
06-08-2006, 03:20 PM
I'm slowly saving up my money for a X2.............;) And hopefully one of these days the price will drop a little.

zachig
06-08-2006, 03:51 PM
I'm slowly saving up my money for a X2.............;) And hopefully one of these days the price will drop a little.

I'm sure that prices of ALL Socket-939 CPU will drop down soon...just give the new AM2 CPUs some time...:wink:

Kougar
06-08-2006, 05:34 PM
I'm slowly saving up my money for a X2.............;) And hopefully one of these days the price will drop a little.

Ugh, please don't make me hunt for the link... :( I'm already linked out from a oversized post I made over at THG that's absurdly huge! (If you think my posts here are bad enough... :wink: )

AMD already stated they would initiate a price drop of their own to, if not match, then at least respond to Intel's own drastic price slashing. No date was mentioned, but since Intel's prices are expected to plummet right on the launch of Conroe on July the 23rd, then AMD's should happen shortly thereafter. :)

Bio-Hazard
06-08-2006, 07:25 PM
That's the one I've been hearing about, but you never know just what AMD is going to do with their prices. After all, they have been doing the smartest things price wise the past year or so..;)

mousiness
06-08-2006, 07:50 PM
the prices for X2s are way too high, even for a 3800+ its expensive, i made a pc with a bunch of components at tigerdirect (LOL DIDNT BUY IT) with AM2 and for that rig i had an MSI 570 MoBo, OCZ RAM 1GB, 250GB seagate drive, ultra case & psu, XFX 6800 Xtreme and an AM2 4200+ X2 for 2k w/ tax incl. viewsonic $500 monitor, pretty good deal, a whole pc including monitor for 2k with tax and shipping included in that 2k price, ceratainly an affordable gaming rig, and then when i made a weak-performing 939 system with a 3800+ the price was still 2.1k...

werty316
06-08-2006, 08:03 PM
AMD doesn't have a budget dual core like Intel's Pentium D 805; I think AMD should have made a 1.8GHz X2; but in any case dual core CPUs aren't even used to their full potential so no use on spending the money.

Bio-Hazard
06-08-2006, 08:41 PM
I'm not planning on getting a X2 unless they drop the prices a lot, at the current $300 for a 3800 X2, it's still way out of my budget range............:(

werty316
06-08-2006, 08:47 PM
Me too; I would wish for a Opteron 165 or X2 3800+ for $200CAD ;)

Bio-Hazard
06-08-2006, 08:50 PM
Somewhere in that area would be extremely nice.........:)

werty316
06-08-2006, 08:53 PM
By that time chances are one of those CPUs woudl be too slow :lol:

mousiness
06-08-2006, 08:57 PM
AMD doesn't have a budget dual core like Intel's Pentium D 805; I think AMD should have made a 1.8GHz X2; but in any case dual core CPUs aren't even used to their full potential so no use on spending the money.
lol nice, nah thats too slow and what you said about dual-cores not being used to their full potential is true, id just get a 4200+ or a 4400+ for futureproofing but for now i wouldnt even bother buying a new cpu since vista, dx10 and conroe are coming out soon

mousiness
06-08-2006, 09:07 PM
is it just me or did AMD just release a 4600+?

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1446929&Sku=CP1-A64-4600%20E

LOL i never noticed this but the 5000+ has the same clock speed as the fx-60 for almost 1/3 of the price HA

werty316
06-08-2006, 09:08 PM
I would wait for a while before getting a DX10 card since they can' tun DX9 games without some sort of software emulation; also there is not point on getting a DX10 card as soon as they are out if there are no DX10 games.

werty316
06-08-2006, 09:09 PM
is it just me or did AMD just release a 4600+?

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1446929&Sku=CP1-A64-4600%20E

Nope the CPU speed is just wrong; The 4600+ X2 is 2.4GHz and not 2.0GHz.

Bio-Hazard
06-08-2006, 09:10 PM
Well, I'm looking at a new 939 as there's no way in hell I could front the cash for a complete new system, AMD or Intel, it would cost me way to much. I do have to eat and make house payments after all.............;)

mousiness
06-08-2006, 09:31 PM
lol, yeah true, BUT there is one more point before buying pc parts or a pc, BUY PCS THAT YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL THEIR FEATURES, it is said that over 90% of people who buy their pcs dont use 95% of the features on their motherboards, so if you buy only compenets you will actually use youll save a ton of money and thats the reason i got an intel board because i cant use all of the features of a DFI board lets say

Bio-Hazard
06-08-2006, 09:34 PM
Trust me, I know how to take full advantage of everything my system can put out.............;)

mousiness
06-08-2006, 09:42 PM
youve made that very obvious sbrehm lol

Dezz
06-09-2006, 01:26 AM
Do like I did by it one piece at a time one month the amdfx60 the next some ram ..its slow but it works I am by no means rich I just got the pieces over 8 months lol

werty316
06-09-2006, 02:38 AM
Getting a FX60 would be a huge setback since they cost $1k.

Bio-Hazard
06-09-2006, 04:47 AM
I would never buy a top of the line CPU, normally with a good CPU I can OC as high or higher than the top CPU's...............;)
I'm just wanting a X2 with 2x1meg cache when the price drops............:)

werty316
06-09-2006, 05:30 AM
Exactly what I do to. No sense in waste alot of $ if I can get the same performance on a slower chip with just OC'ing.

Chakka
06-11-2006, 03:47 AM
Heres my new score at 5798. Workin on getting it past 6000 on a single 7900gt.

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/projectdetails.jsp?projectType=14&projectId=339739

Bio-Hazard
06-11-2006, 05:03 AM
Samething with this link............:(

Which volt mod did you do to your card? The 1.4 or the 1.55..............:)

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6797/3dm0634am.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=339966 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=339966)

Chakka
06-11-2006, 01:09 PM
Sbrehm I did it again...here is the compare link:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=340393

Edit: Now at 5820.

Scott Sherman
06-11-2006, 01:17 PM
Another single card score :)

9005

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=340348 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=340348)

Chakka
06-12-2006, 12:17 AM
Ok I dont think Im going to get any better than this score of 6061 on my single 7900gt (I hit my goal of getting over 6000, enough of pushing it any further):
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=341131

zachig
06-12-2006, 06:34 AM
WOW!!! Well done, Chakka!!! :grin:

I knew it was possible to pass 5K in 3DMark06 with 7900GT and X2 3800+, but I didn't know it's possible to get even beyond 6000pts!!! :roll:

I guess I was wrong...and impressed as well!!! :mrgreen:

Bio-Hazard
06-12-2006, 02:46 PM
Volt mods do wonders for the 7900GT's, makes them clock as high as a 7900GTX, but with only 256 meg ram.

Scott Sherman
06-20-2006, 01:48 AM
New score with some tweaking!!

9411

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=352128 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=352128)

Victor
06-20-2006, 01:50 AM
Man, that's amazing score. I don't think that I even break 4000.

Bio-Hazard
06-20-2006, 03:38 AM
Goes to show you what a top system will put out............;)

Nice going Scott............:)

zachig
06-20-2006, 06:16 AM
WELL DONE, Scott!!! I must admit that I really envy at you...I'm dying to get a system like yours!!! Not that I have a "bad" system at the moment, I just fell in love with both your video card and CPU (to the matter of fact, I fell in love with everything you got...hardware I mean...:lol:).

Especially, I'm dying to put my hands on such a 7950GX2...:grin:

Can't you talk to the guys at XFX to offer a nice 7950GX2 as a giveaway prize for next month contest??? :???: :mrgreen:

Chakka
06-20-2006, 07:07 PM
WOW!!! Well done, Chakka!!! :grin:

I knew it was possible to pass 5K in 3DMark06 with 7900GT and X2 3800+, but I didn't know it's possible to get even beyond 6000pts!!! :roll:

I guess I was wrong...and impressed as well!!! :mrgreen:

Thanks...btw, you have a great system compared to many others Ive seen.

Personally, Im not going to invest anymore in any of my 2 rigs until Vista, DirectX10 and the HD formats are all ironed out. I think those of us with 939 dual core rigs wont see any performance differences until the new stuff comes out. Just my 2 cents.

zachig
06-20-2006, 09:02 PM
Thanks...btw, you have a great system compared to many others Ive seen.

Personally, Im not going to invest anymore in any of my 2 rigs until Vista, DirectX10 and the HD formats are all ironed out. I think those of us with 939 dual core rigs wont see any performance differences until the new stuff comes out. Just my 2 cents.

THX..We have pretty similar rigs...:roll: I guess that me either won't be upgrading anything soon, unless I'll win something...:mrgreen:

werty316
06-20-2006, 11:58 PM
Yup hardware is going to take a huge face lift with DX10 and Vista coming. Waiting is the only hard part :(

mousiness
06-21-2006, 12:52 AM
at least conroe is only a processor change not an entire damn mobo change so the transition wont be very faulty

Bio-Hazard
06-21-2006, 04:18 AM
at least conroe is only a processor change not an entire damn mobo change so the transition wont be very faulty
MoBo is the easy part (cheapest too), what's going to cost is the video card, new ram (for AMD s939 users) and the OS it's self...........:mrgreen:
If everything works out, I may end up with a Conroe test rig next month (complete), but that's just a if right now.

Kougar
06-21-2006, 08:32 PM
I own an Intel rig, and the only thing I have that I can use in the new rig is the case itself. And likely just some of the hard drives, since I'll need an IDE controller card with most of the boards only offering one IDE slot right now. I actually have been craving a P180-B to replace the case too for expansion room, but that'll have to wait until someone runs a good special on one... and assuming I can afford it :roll:

mousiness
06-29-2006, 05:45 PM
MoBo is the easy part (cheapest too), what's going to cost is the video card, new ram (for AMD s939 users) and the OS it's self...........:mrgreen:
If everything works out, I may end up with a Conroe test rig next month (complete), but that's just a if right now.
hmmm thatll be interesting maybe some tests too?? thatd be nice if possible:-D

werty316
06-29-2006, 06:31 PM
Thats the only problem with me too, getting new ram, cpu, and a board. My rig performs quite well so its not worth getting a Core 2 Duo.

Bio-Hazard
06-29-2006, 06:38 PM
For my personal use I'm not changing a thing except for maybe a new better OC'ing CPU. The other stuff is for work stuff...........;)

werty316
06-29-2006, 06:51 PM
Oc'ing form 1.8GHz to 2.7GHz isn't good enough? Common now.

Bio-Hazard
06-29-2006, 08:23 PM
I want to get over 3 GHz.............;)

I'm looking real hard at the 3800 Venice single core, but I'm still waiting for the price cuts and a review of that new Anti-Hyper threading stuff that they have been talking about.

werty316
06-29-2006, 08:33 PM
Two etailers in Canada have the 3800+ Venice for $175CAD and another has it on sale for the same price till July 24. Talk about cheap and I thinking about getting but I was too see what AMD has in the future plus by then prices will be even cheaper.

Chakka
06-29-2006, 11:51 PM
I want to get over 3 GHz.............;)

I'm looking real hard at the 3800 Venice single core, but I'm still waiting for the price cuts and a review of that new Anti-Hyper threading stuff that they have been talking about.

Oh yeah - Im just glad that Intel decided to get back into the game which is causing AMD to seriously cut prices! But wait for the July 24th price change when conroe is introduced...I think you already know about this but here is the link on the new AMD pricing - that 3800 single is going down to $139 from a high of around $300 - sweet!
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2800

Bio-Hazard
06-30-2006, 01:19 AM
The 3800 single core has been down that low for a week or 2 already at most all the big e-tailers.

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA21440

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=120274&Category_Code=AMD64

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103531

Chakka
06-30-2006, 02:52 AM
Oh I wasnt really paying attention cause Im not really in the market just yet anyway...so do you think they will go down more once conroe officially launches?

Bio-Hazard
06-30-2006, 03:33 AM
I'm not sure about the single cores, most are at the listed cut prices already. I'm really hoping that the dual core X2 drop a bunch, but if they don't, I'll just get a faster single core to see just what I can get out of it.

werty316
06-30-2006, 04:35 AM
The S393 3800+ X2 price cut looks damn good; I might have to get one.

mousiness
06-30-2006, 04:35 PM
you guys should really look for buying the 4000+ at final sales, they OC like an fx-53 and are basically an fx-53 with the multiplier unlocked, or maybe even a nice 3800+ would be good

Bio-Hazard
06-30-2006, 04:43 PM
you guys should really look for buying the 4000+ at final sales, they OC like an fx-53 and are basically an fx-53 with the multiplier unlocked, or maybe even a nice 3800+ would be good
We know this, but for single cores, the 3700 Sandy would be my top pick, cheaper than the 4000 and only 200MHz slower if I remember right.

mousiness
06-30-2006, 04:47 PM
you might as well buy the top-of-the-line processor before the sales will be cancelled, but the price is still kinda hefty for a single core for a 4000+ so yes youre right sbrehm, that 3700 sandy would be nice for you wallet and performance wise too

werty316
06-30-2006, 05:17 PM
4000+ screw that. A 3800+ is half that price and only 200MHz slower which would be solved with some OC'ing. I prefer cheaper chips so I can OC them to expensive chip speeds like my 3000+ which OCs to an easy 2.4GHz at stock volts.

Tell me which would you choose?
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3558/0clipboard022yl.jpg
Talk about good savings of $160CAD. On another etailer in Canada the 4000+ is over $425CAD!!!
Woudl you still choose the 4000+ mousiness?

Bio-Hazard
06-30-2006, 05:40 PM
That's it 100%, I'm just looking for a few extra multis to play with and hopefully clock a bit higher. No reason in this world to buy a top end CPU. Outside of the fact that even with the price cuts I couldn't afford one.

Scott Sherman
06-30-2006, 05:51 PM
When are you all going to catch my 3DMark06 score?

werty316
06-30-2006, 06:05 PM
:lol:,.. maybe when those 7950GX2 cards are $200 but by then you would have something faster :lol:

mousiness
06-30-2006, 07:00 PM
might as well get a sandy core with the 3700 theyre easier to OC

werty316
06-30-2006, 07:32 PM
might as well get a sandy core with the 3700 theyre easier to OC

I think you might have meant to post here. (http://www.bjorn3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7408) Nah I don't want to pay the extra $80 just for 1MB cache instead of 512KB plus the 3700+ isn't gonna have a price drop.

Bio-Hazard
06-30-2006, 08:56 PM
When are you all going to catch my 3DMark06 score?

Never I guess.................:paw:

Unless I win the LOTO tomorrow night.............8-)

mousiness
07-01-2006, 12:13 AM
or unless i go into some pc hardware store and walk out the backdoor with a bunch of parts lol, scott you are one lucky man8) :mrgreen:

werty316
07-01-2006, 01:59 AM
Just wait until nVidia incorporates Quad-SLi in their drivers, Scott will pop another 7950GX2 in and will own all.

Kougar
07-01-2006, 05:15 AM
Just wait until nVidia incorporates Quad-SLi in their drivers, Scott will pop another 7950GX2 in and will own all.

Quad SLI on Intel P965 Chipset
(http://www.xbitlabs.com/web/display/20060626163001.html)

werty316
07-01-2006, 05:00 PM
I read about that article about a user that qas successful with enabling Quad-SLi on an Intel rig but Quad-SLi is still not official yet to the retail market, just certain companies like Dell, Alienware, etc.

mousiness
07-01-2006, 07:01 PM
gees the quad-sli review will be so amaizing i cant wait and scott will be the one with that rig, damn nice:wink:

werty316
07-01-2006, 07:30 PM
To bad nothing takes advantage of Quad-SLi as the current scores aren't mind blowing.

mousiness
07-01-2006, 07:33 PM
quake 4 does as there still are no cards to play that game at absolute full settings

werty316
07-01-2006, 08:22 PM
Sure about that. I played Quake 4 with everything maxed out @ 1280x1024 on a 7800GTX ;)
FEAR and Oblivion require a more faster VGA card than Quake 4.

mousiness
07-02-2006, 01:17 AM
damn man i thought wrong and of all the reviews are read they all mentiobned quake 4 is way too complicated for its time

werty316
07-02-2006, 01:26 AM
I think DOOM3 was when it first came out but not anymore with the fast VGA cards. I Oblivion pushes todays VGA cards to the max.

mousiness
07-02-2006, 01:27 AM
with the desperate competition now i must say im not surprised at all:-D

darkorb
07-20-2006, 04:48 PM
i got 2400 with my 6800gt. i dont understand, why so low... 1gb ram
3500+ 250gb hdd.

werty316
07-20-2006, 06:48 PM
Thats a normal score for you setup with 3dmark06. A dualcore CPU a faster video card helps but more so a faster video card.

vfrex
07-22-2006, 02:08 PM
Am2 Sempron 3000
XFX 7300GT

Stock Speed:
3DMark06
1445

Scott Sherman
07-22-2006, 02:46 PM
You noticed I took my score out of my signature, waiting for my other XFX card to get here Wednesday and my monitor will be here Monday. Next week should be a fun week. :mrgreen:

zachig
07-22-2006, 02:52 PM
You noticed I took my score out of my signature, waiting for my other XFX card to get here Wednesday and my monitor will be here Monday. Next week should be a fun week. :mrgreen:
So should we expect to see a new score of "2 x 7950 GX2 XXX"? :roll: :mrgreen: :wink:

werty316
07-22-2006, 05:43 PM
No doubt since there are Quad-SLi drivers.

Bio-Hazard
07-27-2006, 11:33 PM
By just changing the CPU I just topped 5000 points in 3D Mark 06...................:mrgreen: And that's not even OC'ing the CPU yet........:wink:
350 point increase from the CPU alone.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=403481

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6670/3dm06is3.jpg

Scott Sherman
07-28-2006, 12:59 AM
New score when the non Beta drivers are out. Lots of bugs and performance things to be fixed.

Bio-Hazard
07-28-2006, 04:39 PM
A small bump in HTT got me a few more points in 06, I guess I should go for the max............;)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=404419 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=404419)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7872/3dm061rh9.jpg

tomato
07-28-2006, 04:51 PM
Sweet score sbrehm! Can't wait to see some scores with an OC'd CPU ;)

Bio-Hazard
07-28-2006, 06:51 PM
One last run before I see what happens by dropping the multi down to 10. The most O can get out of the CPU at the stock multi is 11x250 (2.75 GHz) with the ram 1:1 and that's at 1.5v. I could bump the volts more, but the chip is still brand new, so I'm going to give it a break.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5730/3dm062rb3.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=404578

Kougar
07-29-2006, 03:43 AM
That first one is a "small bump"?? Amazing what a good CPU upgrade will get ya nowadays! And really, I think 2.75ghz at 1.5v is a really good OC. I sure wouldn't push that chip much farther, she's already blazing... ;)

werty316
07-29-2006, 05:39 AM
Nice overclock and I guess watercooling helps ;)

Bio-Hazard
07-29-2006, 05:56 AM
It helps a bit I guess, but I think I'm only going to keep it at a nice cool 2.5 GHz. I can get that at stock voltage..............;) I'll try later on to see if I can get higher than 2.75, I have plenty of volts leftover, but this chip does heat up fast when you put volts to it, even with water cooling.

werty316
07-29-2006, 06:00 AM
Yeah extreme overclocking is just for show and benchmarking.

Scott Sherman
07-29-2006, 11:43 AM
Ok the score does not seem that great right? A few things, 1280x1024, 8SxAA, 16xAF and BETA drivers.

So know what you think?

ToXic_WaSTe
07-29-2006, 01:23 PM
Ok the score does not seem that great right? A few things, 1280x1024, 8SxAA, 16xAF and BETA drivers.

So know what you think?

:mrgreen:

Awesome score, I'd be happy getting half that. Great rig!!!

werty316
07-29-2006, 05:49 PM
Damn sweet score Scott. I guess those Betas are stable?

zachig
07-29-2006, 07:28 PM
WOW!!! That's a really amazing score you got there, Scott.

I'm getting "only" 4618pts with my "X2 3800 / 7800GTX" combo. :???:

Anyway, I really hope for you that these "beta" drivers are stable enough to keep them...:wink:

Bio-Hazard
07-29-2006, 07:41 PM
Nice score, sort of was expecting a bit more out of quad SLi though to be honest.

ToXic_WaSTe
07-29-2006, 07:51 PM
Nice score, sort of was expecting a bit more out of quad SLi though to be honest.

You have to take the scores with a gram of salt. The 4 graphic cards are downclocked, so its the fastest but not by a huge amount. Though the price seems pretty good thinking its 2 cards in one. 8-)

werty316
07-29-2006, 10:46 PM
You have to take the scores with a gram of salt. The 4 graphic cards are downclocked, so its the fastest but not by a huge amount. Though the price seems pretty good thinking its 2 cards in one. 8-)

Downclocked??? Why would they be downclocked? Its four GPUs so you would expect some kickass scores but I guess Quad-SLi drivers aren't quite optimized and there is nothing that takes advantage of Quad-SLi due to a CPU bottleneck.

ToXic_WaSTe
07-29-2006, 11:17 PM
Downclocked??? Why would they be downclocked? Its four GPUs so you would expect some kickass scores but I guess Quad-SLi drivers aren't quite optimized and there is nothing that takes advantage of Quad-SLi due to a CPU bottleneck.

Because of heat issues, Dont know if it is still true but what i heard was that the 7950 GX2 is 2 7900GTX downclocked.


When placing two PCB's close together heat will become a factor to take into consideration as there is a lot less airflow. So to compensate and obviously to make sure it's not competing with the GeForce 7900 GTX SLI config, the graphics core of the GeForce 7950 GX2 has been downclocked to 500MHz. That's a pretty huge difference. By lowering the core clock the internal voltage probably was lowered a bit also, thus that would result into lower temps. The GeForce 7950 GX2 takes two GTX boards, and joins them via 32 PCI Express lanes. Sixteen lanes are routed to the motherboard out to the PCI Express adaptor.

http://www.mvktech.net/content/view/3246/38/

werty316
07-29-2006, 11:23 PM
Heat would be an issue but not at the point where the card needs to downclock itself. Its the fact that the GX2 is clocked slower than a 7900GTX:

7950GX2
Core - 500MHz
Memory - 600MHz (1.2GHz effective)

7900GTX
Core - 650MHz
Memory - 800MHz (1.6GHz effective)

The GX2 is basically two 7900GTX cores sandwiched together.

ToXic_WaSTe
07-29-2006, 11:37 PM
Heat would be an issue but not at the point where the card needs to downclock itself.
Never said it downclocked itself


Its the fact that the GX2 is clocked slower than a 7900GTX:

7950GX2
Core - 500MHz
Memory - 600MHz (1.2GHz effective)

7900GTX
Core - 650MHz
Memory - 800MHz (1.6GHz effective)

The GX2 is basically two 7900GTX cores sandwiched together.

And there is my point, its a factory preset downclock.

werty316
07-30-2006, 12:27 AM
Downclocked??? Why would they be downclocked? Its four GPUs so you would expect some kickass scores but I guess Quad-SLi drivers aren't quite optimized and there is nothing that takes advantage of Quad-SLi due to a CPU bottleneck.
Because of heat issues, Dont know if it is still true but what i heard was that the 7950 GX2 is 2 7900GTX downclocked.

I asked "why they would they be downclocked" and you replied "Because of the heat issues"...

GIBSON
07-30-2006, 12:31 AM
I asked "why they would they be downclocked" and you replied "Because of the heat issues"...
He wasn't lieing werty. nVidia had to downclock them if they didn't want their cards failing all over the place. Or do you really think they clocked them down just to spare ati?

werty316
07-30-2006, 12:38 AM
Ok I got confused by his post.
You have to take the scores with a gram of salt. The 4 graphic cards are downclocked, so its the fastest but not by a huge amount. Though the price seems pretty good thinking its 2 cards in one. 8-)
Even if the 7950GX2 has slower clocks than the 7900GTX you would figure Quad-SLi setup would get a higher 3dmark06 score because it hasfour GPUs and more bandwidth. Again maybe a Quadcore CPU could help.

ToXic_WaSTe
07-30-2006, 12:47 AM
Ok I got confused by his post.

Even if the 7950GX2 has slower clocks than the 7900GTX you would figure Quad-SLi setup would get a higher 3dmark06 score because it hasfour GPUs and more bandwidth. Again maybe a Quadcore CPU could help.

Yep, but its like it always has been with dual graphic cards, The preformance doesnt jump to 200% because you have 2 GPUS and it wont jump 400% because you have 4. especially since the GX2's are downclocked, so you dont get the preformance of four 7900gtx

werty316
07-30-2006, 12:52 AM
I know that as it all theoretical but you would figured Quad-SLi could hit 9000 or more.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/QuadSLI/images/3dmark06.gif
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/QuadSLI/8

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/quad-sli-preview/charts/6dm_total.gif
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce7900-quad-sli_25.html

Obviously its not quite optimised.

Bio-Hazard
07-30-2006, 01:03 AM
It's basicly 2 7900GT with 512 meg ram..........;) put together.

Scott Sherman
07-30-2006, 01:40 AM
Plus I am running at 8xAA and 16xAF, they are not.

tomato
07-30-2006, 03:46 AM
HOLY SH*T Scott, nice score, and with beta drivers to boot! You can only hope your scores will go up once the proper drivers are certified and released.... jerk ;) :P

Kougar
07-30-2006, 04:13 AM
Plus I am running at 8xAA and 16xAF, they are not.

Very, very impressive... I think you're about ready to upgrade to Vista now. :wink: Have ya done any OCing on those cards? I hear they have a little headroom left, surprisingly!

werty316
07-30-2006, 06:24 AM
Plus I am running at 8xAA and 16xAF, they are not.

Ah I must have missed that. What score do you get with default settings?

Bio-Hazard
07-30-2006, 02:25 PM
Ya, something that us poor people can compare results to...............;)

Chakka
07-31-2006, 01:16 PM
Ya, something that us poor people can compare results to...............;)

U could get a much better score if you simply did the reversable mod on your free (I dont feel sorry for you) 7900gt.

Im at 650/1600 (stock 7900gtx) with the 1.5v mod and have been there for over a month or two now and playing Oblivion no problems with eye candy options turned on. Its easier than watercooling IMO.

Bio-Hazard
07-31-2006, 03:14 PM
I know, but I don't really care to do volt mods of any sort. Bios clocking is one thing, moding HW is another. Besides, the card is plenty fast enough the way it is..............;)

werty316
07-31-2006, 05:16 PM
Hardware modding is my limit also and I have yet to see how far I can push my 7900GT.; soon though.

zachig
07-31-2006, 05:35 PM
I totally agree with both sbrehm and werty. I never did any volt mod to none of my video cards, though I've overclocked a lot of them (sometimes even too much...:wink: ), and I'm not planning to do so in the future...

"soft mod" and "overclocking" is where my limit line cross, and I also think it's too risky, especially when talking about high-end cards like the 7800GTX/7900GT/7900GTX or their ATI compatibles...:roll:

But hey, that's just me, anyone should do whatever he wants with his video card, depending if he's willing to take the risk or not...I know more than one person that really doesn't care if he kills a video card or two, as he has no problem of running and buying a new one (and even a better one) just the day after he "fried" his card...:mrgreen:

ToXic_WaSTe
07-31-2006, 06:15 PM
I totally agree with both sbrehm and werty. I never did any volt mod to none of my video cards, though I've overclocked a lot of them (sometimes even too much...:wink: ), and I'm not planning to do so in the future...

"soft mod" and "overclocking" is where my limit line cross, and I also think it's too risky, especially when talking about high-end cards like the 7800GTX/7900GT/7900GTX or their ATI compatibles...:roll:

But hey, that's just me, anyone should do whatever he wants with his video card, depending if he's willing to take the risk or not...I know more than one person that really doesn't care if he kills a video card or two, as he has no problem of running and buying a new one (and even a better one) just the day after he "fried" his card...:mrgreen:

Well you can reach some pretty sepctacular results with Vmods, just wanted to show you... :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92444&page=5

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/DOTHAN_780ES/LN2/P4GD1/ATI_2k5_16468_png.png

werty316
07-31-2006, 06:19 PM
If I was to vmod my 7900GT what point would it prove? Doing so for bragging rights so taking the risk isn't worth it for an already fast card.

ToXic_WaSTe
07-31-2006, 06:25 PM
If I was to vmod my 7900GT what point would it prove? Doing so for bragging rights so taking the risk isn't worth it for an already fast card.

Yeah but how many cards run 1GHz ???

I think it shows that there is still unused potential in the cards :P

Chakka
07-31-2006, 06:26 PM
If I was to vmod my 7900GT what point would it prove? Doing so for bragging rights so taking the risk isn't worth it for an already fast card.

Well 3 things. One, overclocking is trying to get more performance out of cheaper parts otherwise I would just buy the more expensive chips...same concept with the reversable vmod for the 7900gt. Two, the real life gaming difference while playing oblivion went from choppy performance to smooth performance because I was getting way more FPS after the vmod. And three, the 7900gt was designed to run at 1.4v and not downvolted to 1.2v...its actually the same GPU in the 7900gtx. I think that all the problems with the 7900gt vid cards is not having enough volts running through the gpus in the first place to adequately get stabilbity.

What really is the difference between giving your cpu more vdimm to get a higher stable overclock? Its the same thing imo.

werty316
07-31-2006, 06:33 PM
Yeah but how many cards run 1GHz ???

I think it shows that there is still unused potential in the cards :P
If I blow a $300 card would you compensate me for modding it?

Any hardmodding is crossing the line with me period.

Chakka
07-31-2006, 06:44 PM
Actually it was fun - isnt that what this is all about! Its even the headline article in the recent mainstream mag Computer Power User (CPU)...the editors documented the process. Have you ever seen a reversable (this isnt a hard mod) vmod to get the performance of a $600 vid card for half the cost?

zachig
07-31-2006, 08:04 PM
I also think it's mainly for bragging rights...but hey, if you're having fun doing it, you said it all. I think that if you enjoy it, than go with it. I still prefer not to try it...:wink:

GIBSON
07-31-2006, 08:45 PM
What really is the difference between giving your cpu more vdimm to get a higher stable overclock? Its the same thing imo.
You probably meant Vcore right?
Anyhow, I'd do it with a cheap card to clock the crap out of it as to get the performance of a top of the line card. I wouldn't try it on a top of the line card though, unless I were to be loaded, but I'm not...;-) I've seen a guy getting some really nice performance out of his voltmodded cheapo watercooled card. Plus as chakka said, you get the fun out of doing it too! :D

Bio-Hazard
07-31-2006, 10:01 PM
All, and I mean all my games play just fine with the card the way it is, it's 100% stable and doesn't give me any problems. Maybe one day when I win the Loto I start volt modding, but until then, NOPE..........;)

Scott Sherman
08-01-2006, 01:59 AM
Ok do this, set your AA and AF to none.

Then go run 3DMark06 at 1600x1200

The post your score.

Mine, 8302

dukeman
08-02-2006, 08:06 PM
6688 is my best so far. i havent tried it since i installed the duel driver from amd so i will do that tonight.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=322122

XJnine
08-08-2006, 04:11 PM
Finally decided to give this a run. 2389 at default settings.

P4 3ghz, 6800GT, 2gb RAM.

I need a new machine....

darkorb
08-08-2006, 07:59 PM
i cant change any of the settigns, it says its locked.

werty316
08-08-2006, 09:06 PM
i cant change any of the settigns, it says its locked.
You can only change settings if you purchase the software.

Bio-Hazard
08-08-2006, 11:16 PM
You have to run all default settings if you are running the free version like 99% of the folks out there...........;)