Why haven't they killed this man yet?

[=CDU=Above]

If this is true, it will change the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUmlLqkUHd0&search=water%20fuel


There....that ought to give you contest competitors something to discuss for awhile.

[XJnine]

I just heard about this the other day but I hadn't seen the video. Very cool stuff.

If something like this takes off the next thing we'll need is inexpensive desalinization plants.

[GIBSON]

this does sound really interesting, but what exactly is the difference between H2O and HHO as i wouldn't know any way to make a molecule with a O and 2H other than H2O :D

[borschtBomber[SS]]

thats friggen awesome. *runs off to find the man* :)

[werty316]

I remember the character "Hyde" from the TV show "That 70s Show" talking about a car running on water and this would be cool it becomes this.

[Bryan]

That's very cool. But how long before fresh water became scarce because we were using it for fuel?

[werty316]

Proabably a long time since the earth is 80% water. I wonder if you don't have any water around and you run out of gas/water in the middel of nowhere you can pee into your car as fuel :lol:

[GIBSON]

Proabably a long time since the earth is 80% water. I wonder if you don't have any water around and you run out of gas/water in the middel of nowhere you can pee into your car as fuel :lol:
your bound to clog the filter that way :mrgreen:
About the earth being 80% water isn't correct (the percentage is a bit less), but most important of all, you are talking about salty water. As far as i know salty water would be a no go, and if you know anything about the water in the world, then you'd know that there is only a very small percentage of all the water in the world that isn't salty. Another problem is that of that already small percentage is only even a lot smaller percentage exploitable, most of it is very deep down in the ground, in rivers, mountains, etc. and a lot of it is in gletsjers. So it all comes down to this, if they are going to use water as fuel, they are going to have to build a lot plants where they get the salt out of seawater (and those things are pretty expensive).

EDIT: here's another interesting article about the subject: http://www.atsnn.com/article/158213

[werty316]

I was saying it in general and not being specific to salt water/fresh water.
Here are some facts:

Approximately 80 percent of Earth's surface is covered with water.

Only one percent of this water is fresh we can use.
97 percent is saltwater
two percent is water frozen in glaciers

Earth's fresh water supply is limited and threatened by pollution.

Today, have approximately the same amount of water as when the Earth was formed; Earth will not get any more water.

Water moves in a never-ending cycle; nature recycles it over and over again.

The water you drink may have been a drink for a dinosaur.

You use an average of 168 gallons of water a day.

In the United States, we use approximately 25 trillion gallons of fresh water each year.

We are using our fresh water faster then we are recharging our groundwater.

In the United States, more than 50 percent of our wetlands that recharge and purify ground water have been destroyed.

http://www.epa.gov/gmpo/edresources/water_5.html

[mousiness]

That's very cool. But how long before fresh water became scarce because we were using it for fuel?
in 10 years i bet gas is being chugged down by the US army and all the jetliners and lets not forget rich bas***** that chug gas down like water on a hot day with them using their hummers as carpools in rush hour traffic

[GIBSON]

I was saying it in general and not being specific to salt water/fresh water.
Here are some facts:



http://www.epa.gov/gmpo/edresources/water_5.html

you did reply with "Proabably a long time since the earth is 80% water" to Brian who clearly stated fresh water

[werty316]

Ah I missed that he said freshwater. Thx for clearing that up and in that case not very long since alot of fresh water it being threaten by pollution and there isn't alot of fresh water supplies.

[Kougar]

That's very cool. But how long before fresh water became scarce because we were using it for fuel?

Remember in the clip where he is holding the flame alongside a piece of metal? Water was reforming and condensing off of it... Basically the same reason your gasoline car produces water as a byproduct out your exhaust pipe ;)

I just have to reiterate everyone else though, this is simply cool, and I'm amazed I've only now heard of it??

The US, and more especially other European counties gain fresh water supplies from the oceans. Saltwater desalination plants are nothing new, and we have at least a few that I know of operating along the Gulf of Mexico shore line. The only drawback to turning salt water into fresh water is it is not cheap to do.

[=CDU=Above]

Here's the thing. The man said 100 miles on 4 fluid ounces. It's not going to suck up the world's fresh water supply. All one would have to do is simply place a cup out side in the rain. The supply would be endless. Also, the fact that the exhaust/byproduct is also water...it could be a reciprocating system.

[Das Capitolin]

in 10 years i bet gas is being chugged down by the US army and all the jetliners and lets not forget rich bas***** that chug gas down like water on a hot day with them using their hummers as carpools in rush hour traffic

Mousiness, go look up "peak oil output". The world is expected to reach the peak of oil collection by 2018. This means that in almost ten years, there will begin using the last of all available oil sources.

The other thing that people need to understand is this: HHO is two parts Hydrogen and one part Oxygen. It will burn super clean and as combustion engines are build just for Hydrogen combustion, they will become much more efficient.

[Bryan]

The one thing people always forget about when they espouse the benefits of non-fossil fuels is combustibility. Nothing else produces the same bang as gasoline, thus you need more of it to produce equivalent power. It's going to be a huge culture shift for people to give up their gasoline and diesel powered cars. Not that it can't be done, or shouldn't be done, but it's not an easy transition. In spite of what Al Gore might tell you. 8-)

[werty316]

Here's the thing. The man said 100 miles on 4 fluid ounces. It's not going to suck up the world's fresh water supply. All one would have to do is simply place a cup out side in the rain. The supply would be endless. Also, the fact that the exhaust/byproduct is also water...it could be a reciprocating system.

Damn dude I never thought abou those points, great thinkin ;)

[Kougar]

Mousiness, go look up "peak oil output". The world is expected to reach the peak of oil collection by 2018. This means that in almost ten years, there will begin using the last of all available oil sources.

The other thing that people need to understand is this: HHO is two parts Hydrogen and one part Oxygen. It will burn super clean and as combustion engines are build just for Hydrogen combustion, they will become much more efficient.

I'm not trying to rebute your claim that fossil fuels will eventually run dry, however this claim with dates in the near future has been around for decades, with the number being reached and passed every several years...

While I am all for alternative means to generate power and the like, the flaw with that number is it does not account for advances in technology that allow us to utilize known but previously unreachable stores of the black gold, and the constant discovery of new deposits, also partly due to new technologies. For the moment there are two extreme and vast oil reserves that have not even been even marginally tapped yet, one previously due to the high costs involved and the other mostly due to environmentalists.

The one thing people always forget about when they espouse the benefits of non-fossil fuels is combustibility. Nothing else produces the same bang as gasoline, thus you need more of it to produce equivalent power. It's going to be a huge culture shift for people to give up their gasoline and diesel powered cars. Not that it can't be done, or shouldn't be done, but it's not an easy transition. In spite of what Al Gore might tell you.

I'm afraid this would be especially true for Texas. The only thing approaching the number of large trucks that are on the roads here are SUVs... and there are about as many Hummers driving around as electric-hybrids (Not kidding, seen a good number of both of those, in relative terms to trucks and SUVs mind you).

[GIBSON]

it will however be a bit weird that you are using HHO in a power plant while HHO is formed by elektrolyse

[Das Capitolin]

it will however be a bit weird that you are using HHO in a power plant while HHO is formed by elektrolyse

Well, they didn't mention just how much electrical energy it takes to break H2O into HHO. We can create electrical energy with nuclear reactors, but vehicle fuel we cannot.

[GIBSON]

Well, they didn't mention just how much electrical energy it takes to break H2O into HHO. We can create electrical energy with nuclear reactors, but vehicle fuel we cannot.
yes i know, i just find it kind of a funny situation :mrgreen: