Intel Roadmap | CPU Names - Das Capitolin

[Kougar]

Well, you wanted a new thread Das Capitolin ;)

Yes, "Pentium" has been left to the history books. Anandtech mentioned it a few times and Ars Technica in particular had some articles on this. This is just a news link, but they link back to THG as well http://www.techspot.com/news/20132-intel-drops-pentium-brand-name.html (http://www.techspot.com/news/20132-intel-drops-pentium-brand-name.html) Here's a rather older .Ars blurb on this, but it's an older one. I know they have a newer article somewhere... ;) http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051130-5655.html (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051130-5655.html)

Here is an official roadmap: Intel Desktop CPU Roadmap 2006 (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=787)

Although this was more useful (And interesting) to me: Intel Life After "Conroe" (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2649)

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5313/1775largelongtermroadmap7fs.png

[GIBSON]

any idea what comes after 32nm as they can't go much smaller than that right (or so i believe to have read somewhere)

[Kougar]

any idea what comes after 32nm as they can't go much smaller than that right (or so i believe to have read somewhere)

Absolutely none! Intel does not even know what kind of fab process they plan to use to create the chips below 32nm, although in the Intel, Life after "Conroe" article they go into detail on some ideas they have been looking at. :)

[Das Capitolin]

Well, you wanted a new thread Das Capitolin ;)

Yes, "Pentium" has been left to the history books. Anandtech mentioned it a few times and Ars Technica in particular had some articles on this. This is just a news link, but they link back to THG as well http://www.techspot.com/news/20132-intel-drops-pentium-brand-name.html (http://www.techspot.com/news/20132-intel-drops-pentium-brand-name.html) Here's a rather older .Ars blurb on this, but it's an older one. I know they have a newer article somewhere... ;) http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051130-5655.html (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051130-5655.html)

Here is an official roadmap: Intel Desktop CPU Roadmap 2006 (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=787)

Although this was more useful (And interesting) to me: Intel Life After "Conroe" (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2649)

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5313/1775largelongtermroadmap7fs.png

Thanks! A thread made just for little 'ol me.

I wished that the codenames didn't confuse the issue; because I would bet that the Pentium series may squeak into one of those productions.

Seriously though, Intel doesn't know what is coming after 32nm process? Well if they can't see that far ahead, can anyone else?

[mousiness]

since you said anyone else the production process will obviously get smaller, but as for the architecture they wont know until there is full knowledge of the competition and what they want to do with the performance ie. needs of the customer

[Kougar]

Thanks! A thread made just for little 'ol me.

I wished that the codenames didn't confuse the issue; because I would bet that the Pentium series may squeak into one of those productions.

Seriously though, Intel doesn't know what is coming after 32nm process? Well if they can't see that far ahead, can anyone else?

Intel doesn't plan to reach below 32nm until four years from now. Considering they are trying to create the tech to build with this process, it sounds like they're on track...

I would honestly expect AMD to only know as much as Intel, if not less. Some of the technology needed just hasn't been developed or worked out yet. That said, AMD is currently at 90nm prepping to just begin 65nm by December and ramp into full production by the first few months of next year, while Intel has been running 65nm chips since about the start of this year. From what I've seen to date Intel will be building 45nm CPUs by the 2nd half of 2007, and AMD doesn't plan to get there until the first half of 2008, after pushing it up half a year already.

I recall that Samsung has just started building 40nm NAND flash chips with improved durability and write speeds over the current stuff, but that's about it as far as I recall of anyone else nearing 32nm with anything.

[mousiness]

there still has to be research done with this matter and im not surprised intel doesnt know ehere itll be 5 or 6 years from now, eventually theyll go into atom sized dies lol

[werty316]

I wonder what will happen once 32nm chip rides along; what comes after 32nm, something smaller or perhaps pm (pintometer or what ever comes after "p").

[mousiness]

eventually theyll get so small they have to think up new internal i/o's to match the CPU size and will eventually lead to smaller pc overall

[Kougar]

Seriously though, Intel doesn't know what is coming after 32nm process? Well if they can't see that far ahead, can anyone else?

Actually they're still working out 45nm, I should have said. Let alone hashing the theory behind the processing for 32nm!

However this might interest you... ArF laser light source to enable production of sub-45 nm semiconductors (http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/07/06/cymer_arf_laser/) Infact the last paragraph is news to me, and might be what Intel and AMD were hoping for... IBM drives chipmaking process beyond current limitations (http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/02/21/ibm_duv_euv/)

[mousiness]

Actually they're still working out 45nm, I should have said. Let alone hashing the theory behind the processing for 32nm!

However this might interest you... ArF laser light source to enable production of sub-45 nm semiconductors (http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/07/06/cymer_arf_laser/) Infact the last paragraph is news to me, and might be what Intel and AMD were hoping for... IBM drives chipmaking process beyond current limitations (http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/02/21/ibm_duv_euv/)
actually what kougar said is very true, it isnt easy switching production processes, 65nm to 45nm to 32nm... thats a lot of nm shaved off the other and it will pose AMD or Intel a challenge

[GIBSON]

actually what kougar said is very true, it isnt easy switching production processes, 65nm to 45nm to 32nm... thats a lot of nm shaved off the other and it will pose AMD or Intel a challenge
Another big problem is the heat output, with every step down on the scale, the heat gets more concentrated on that small spot. I've read a few articles about a new technology they are developing for this future problem. It involves making microchannels in the chip where they'll let water flow through (some sort of inbedded watercooling) it's really neat, they have done some tests with it and it appears to be working.