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Das Capitolin
07-06-2006, 05:19 PM
http://news.com.com/Apple+widget+checks+raise+eyebrows/2100-1045_3-6090966.html?tag=nefd.top

A few Mac users are concerned about a feature in the latest update to Mac OS that directs their computers to check in with Apple Computer's servers on a regular basis without the user's knowledge or permission.

Apple released an update to Mac OS last week that fixed a few bugs and added some features. One feature Apple added was described as the ability to verify that a widget was an authentic program. Widgets are small software programs that provide Mac users with little bits of useful information, like the weather report or stock tickers.

Some bloggers have become concerned that Apple is collecting information without their authorization, after the recent furor caused by Microsoft's Windows Genuine Advantage Notification program. Microsoft inserted a prerelease program in a regular Windows update that checks Windows PCs to make sure they are running a genuine copy of the operating system, but the company included that beta feature without telling users and has since posted instructions on how to remove it after a backlash.

Apple's Dashboard Advisory verification software was designed as a security feature, a company representative said. "Apple takes protecting user privacy very seriously. The Dashboard Advisory feature is a security tool that ensures that the correct version of a widget has been downloaded from a third-party site and no personal information is transmitted back to Apple," the company said in a statement.

Dashboard Advisory looks at just widgets, not the rest of the operating system. Widgets available on Apple's Downloads page are actually hosted by the companies that developed the widgets, not Apple. The verification feature is designed to ensure that the widget advertised on Apple's Download page is the same widget that gets installed on a Mac, or to prevent someone from spoofing a link to trick a user into downloading a different program.

A Mac with the latest version of Mac OS, version 10.4.7, sends a HTTP (hypertext transfer protocol) GET command to Apple's servers to verify that the widget is authentic, the company representative said. There is no way to turn off the transmission, which takes place about every eight hours, and the user is not prompted before the transmission is made.

Rob
07-06-2006, 05:23 PM
You'd think with all the uproar over WGA phoning home, Apple would say "Oops, we made a mistake. We're issuing a patch to stop our OS from phoning home. Sorry about that!"

Das Capitolin
07-06-2006, 05:33 PM
You'd think with all the uproar over WGA phoning home, Apple would say "Oops, we made a mistake. We're issuing a patch to stop our OS from phoning home. Sorry about that!"

I recall reading somewhere that Apple is 26% owned by Microsoft, so maybe it is in the genes. Seriously though, I would have expected Apple to make sure they don't follow the path of Microsoft. But apparantly it seems like no big issue to them.

mousiness
07-06-2006, 05:35 PM
yeah its true apple has been owned by microsoft a little while before they made the first gen ipod.

Das Capitolin
07-06-2006, 05:38 PM
yeah its true apple has been owned by microsoft a little while before they made the first gen ipod.

Good thing I quit my MS stock a year ago. Looks like Apple is going to go the way of Microsoft if they don't be careful.

mousiness
07-06-2006, 05:46 PM
theyve already gone too far by going intel, but thats because IBM left them in the dust i guess

Das Capitolin
07-06-2006, 05:50 PM
theyve already gone too far by going intel, but thats because IBM left them in the dust i guess

No. Where have you been? Oh, that's right, you weren't even born yet! IBM flourished because it did not make the PC design proprietary. Apple did, which is why you couldn't build a Mac.

mousiness
07-06-2006, 05:55 PM
but apple never designed processors but at the time IBM was owning the pc market technology wise and especially their CPUs which is why apple went with powerpc processors from IBM but now IBM ditched apple because they didnt wanna make processors that couldnt compete against intels in macs anymore so IBM f\ditched mac which forced mac to go to the next best processors that would work well with their technology which is why they went with intel, phew

werty316
07-06-2006, 06:57 PM
Good thing I quit my MS stock a year ago. Looks like Apple is going to go the way of Microsoft if they don't be careful.

Yeah especially since the Mac uses Intel chips now.

mousiness
07-06-2006, 07:07 PM
yeahyeah thats what i meant, gees i can never explain myself right

Das Capitolin
07-06-2006, 07:11 PM
Yeah especially since the Mac uses Intel chips now.

Believe me, I am glad to be done with stock in MS, but I will be very happy to sell my Intel stock for anything more then I paid.

mousiness
07-06-2006, 07:15 PM
wouldnt anyone? :wink:

Kougar
07-06-2006, 08:03 PM
IBM didn't ditch Apple, it was the other way around.

While Apple switching to Intel probably was a good thing for several reasons, (such as the flexibility to dual-boot XP or simply just use vitualization software to run XP in OS X, which seems to have spurred sales) I'd still have to wonder what IBM's Power6 generation is really capable of, especially after it's own die shrink.

mousiness
07-06-2006, 08:06 PM
no IBM ditched apple, apple never wanted it to happen ive rea it wait ima find proof, woops youre right lol

Das Capitolin
07-06-2006, 09:27 PM
IBM has had their chips in everything from computers to cars, to copiers and phones. Intel and AMD have had similar product placement, but to a smaller degree.

no IBM ditched apple, apple never wanted it to happen ive rea it wait ima find proof, woops youre right lol

Why would you even post this Mousiness? Just to have one more post?

GIBSON
07-07-2006, 03:01 PM
IBM didn't ditch Apple, it was the other way around.

While Apple switching to Intel probably was a good thing for several reasons, (such as the flexibility to dual-boot XP or simply just use vitualization software to run XP in OS X, which seems to have spurred sales) I'd still have to wonder what IBM's Power6 generation is really capable of, especially after it's own die shrink.
You're forgetting one major reason, the performance difference is huge!

Kougar
07-08-2006, 02:29 PM
I will just say this... from what I have seen, Presler is to Conroe, what K8 is to K8L, is what Power5 is to Power6 (65nm). All three new designs have and will have some impressive leads over the older designs... Don't mix up the old Power5 stuff with the unlreleased Power6 design ;)

tomato
07-08-2006, 06:00 PM
We're running the older dual-processor G5's at work, and for what we use'em for (newspaper publication) they run really, really swell. They are quick in just about any program that we choose to run...
With the exception of IE, I find it pretty quirky on the Mac, so I mainly use Safari, (Apple's default web browser). Strange coincidence, or something more? :P

Anyway, I do hope that Apple chooses to remove this service, as it will cause nothing but headaches for eveyone involved: the users will become annoyed that they may (in the future) not be able to use any "unauthorized" widgets, and the folks at Apple must hire/focus more staff to keep track of said widgets.... let them roam and be free, I say :P