Yay! I'm a F@H nobody!

[Das Capitolin]

In celebration of my servers producing squat for 24-hours, I am presented with this award:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/Das_Capitolin/FAH/cert-0.jpg

I guess I will have to revisit the servers to find out what went wrong is my setup.

[werty316]

That hilarious; it congratulates you for doing nothing; freak great stuff.

[Das Capitolin]

I somehow got a higher score then other people on the team, despite the obvious flaws in my configs.

Yet another "award" certificate:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/Das_Capitolin/FAH/wu-cert0.jpg

[GIBSON]

LOL, one might actually start to think they are making fun out of you! :D

[werty316]

Something in your configuration must be fubarred.

[Das Capitolin]

Something in your configuration must be fubarred.

Apparently, these certificates are just pre-mature. Not sure why they make them for zero scores. But I actually have a score now:

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=41608

[werty316]

It doesn't make sense if no points were completed. It shouldn't give you the option to get a "Congrats" certificate until atleast "1" point is completed.

Also I am curious did you ever keep track of how long it took for your rig to complete one calculation?

[Das Capitolin]

It doesn't make sense if no points were completed. It shouldn't give you the option to get a "Congrats" certificate until atleast "1" point is completed.

Also I am curious did you ever keep track of how long it took for your rig to complete one calculation?

The time varies, based on what I am doing and the project size. It initally took 32-hours to complete a project, but then I realized that the projects are all somewhat different and the times will almost never be the same.

[Kougar]

I somehow got a higher score then other people on the team, despite the obvious flaws in my configs.


That sounds like you were crunching WUs but they encountered instability in the simulation, so the WU was halted and what you had completed was sent in. Since these aren't completed you would still show zero WUs done, but get points for trying basically... I've only seen instability in their simulations when one of my overclocks became unstable though. :( If you kept the log from your server's program, I'd be happy to give that a look over or ya could paste it on here maybe?

More stats on ya... http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=189139 (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=189139)

[werty316]

Ah ok so the calculation time is random every completed cycle.

[Das Capitolin]

That sounds like you were crunching WUs, but they encountered instability in the simulation, so the WU was halted and what you had completed was sent in. Since these aren't completed you would still show zero WUs done, but get points for trying, basically... I've only seen instability in their simulations when one of my overclocks became unstable though. :( If you kept the log from your server's program, I'd be happy to give that a look over or ya could paste it on here maybe?

More stats on ya... http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=189139 (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=189139)

Thank you Kougar! As soon as I can, I will post the logs. I am curious, I read all through the Wiki FAQ and didn't find my answer anywhere:
How much time is allowed before a project is restarted? For example, what if the server restarts each night, and FAH shuts down services during the five minute restart. What if I shut down my system at night?

[Das Capitolin]

Ok, so I got this Folding@Home thing figured out. P4 HT CPU's don't do so well running two FAH's at once, and should probably be cut to one. Pentium D CPU's run two FAH's really well.

I am now ranked 15 out of 25; and it's only been almost two days.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/Das_Capitolin/FAH/cert-1000.jpg

[werty316]

Good job on the Folding Das ;)

[Das Capitolin]

Good job on the Folding Das ;)

Thank you Werty. I am already up to 12th place. I expect to be in the top ten before the weeks over, and at 9th place before next week. Scott is in 8th place with 17063, but I could take that position before the month ends.

[Scott]

To bad your name will have to change for next months contest :lol:

[Bio-Hazard]

How many cores are you folding with Das????????????????

[XJnine]

Scott,

It would be interesting for you to PM us our names to use for the contest so we will individually know how we are doing but no one else would be able to figure out who is who on the list. Make them something non-descript like entry 1, entry 2, etc. Should make for some interesting conversation as people try to figure out who is ahead of them.

Of course now that I'm starting to switch all of my CPU's back over to folding I'm pretty sure you can all assume I'll be at the top of the list... ;)

[Scott]

Humm, that is an idea. I had a naming scheme worked out where you would know who you where but I would tell the scheme on the 1st.

[Kougar]

Okay, a few things! You need to be careful running two or more instances of folding@home on a single computer. I will assume you are running the full version with a GUI, it shows the protein models? For the moment you cannot run two of these on the same machine at once, you would need have one instance be a console version (No GUI interface, just a DOS window) or have both be a console version running in separate folders, with each console version given a separate ID number! It's possible this could have been causing some of your problems Capitolin...

Here's a not to shabby startup guide... Over Here (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=39&threadid=1725668&enterthread=y&arctab=y) that is worth a read.

Das Capitolin, in regards to your questions on the first post on this page, I'm not sure what you are asking?? Could ya please elaborate? Folding@home is comprised of MANY servers that accept and distribute WUs... if the server your WU came from is down your completed WU is redirected to a stanby server, to be held and sent from there back to the originating server. This usually causes a slight delay in stats updating. ;)

Folding@home (Either the GUI version or the console) can be installed as a XP service, to startup with XP. Or simply making a shortcut of the console's exe and dropping that into the Startup folder has the same effect, just make sure the correct flags are in place on the shortcut. (That FAQ explains this more).

To view all WU's in progress and see how many points they are worth and the deadlines on them, go HERE (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummaryC.html)

To get some stats on the the servers's status and other things, there is some info HERE (http://www.fahinfo.org/index.php?topscores=true)

[tomato]

Of course now that I'm starting to switch all of my CPU's back over to folding I'm pretty sure you can all assume I'll be at the top of the list... ;)

So... you have to "convert" your computer somehow in order to "fold"? Hmmm, it looks like I'm going to have to do some research on the topic... and see if my (currently) lowly comp can handle it :P

[werty316]

Its not so much as converting a rig, its more like set and forget.

[Kougar]

So... you have to "convert" your computer somehow in order to "fold"? Hmmm, it looks like I'm going to have to do some research on the topic... and see if my (currently) lowly comp can handle it :P

I think XJNine meant he has to change out the programs he's already running for folding@home instead. ;) There's no end to the programs releated to folding@home searching for cures and such, not even counting the ones for SETI and other goals.

I wouldn't run folding@home on anything below a 700 to 800mhz P3, as a single WU could take days to crunch. Anything else should be just fine though... :)

[Das Capitolin]

Okay, a few things! You need to be careful running two or more instances of folding@home on a single computer. I will assume you are running the full version with a GUI, it shows the protein models?

I looked at the GUI version, and thought to myself: overhead.

I use the console versions, and they are simple and efficient. I would suggest them over the GUI version.

As for my initial problems: they were comprised of over-expectations and lack of patience. It takes a while to register points and complete WU's, sometimes a day or two per system.

I know I will have to change my name for the contest; but mine is not a love 'em and leave 'em attitude towards the Bjorn3D team and F@H. I plan on still folding under the name Das Capitolin, and using the contest name.

A suggestion: don't make the contest names so confusing that you mix us up with one-another. I don't care what my name is, just don't confuse it for someone elses.

[Scott]

It will not be confusing at all.

[XJnine]

Kougar got it right. I was running World Community Grid on many of my computers and I decided now was the time to switch them back to folding@home. My numbers for the team had been lacking lately, I needed to bump them up.

[Scott]

Yeah XJ is like the king of Folding. Speaking of your location XJ, have you ever tried to hook up with Bryan Duncan? He works here on Bjorn3D and lives in Jacksonville.

[XJnine]

We talked with each other about being in Jax about 2 1/2 years ago but never actually got around to meeting for a beer.

I guess I should get off my butt and host a N.E. Florida Bjorn3D party!

[Scott]

You get something figure out I could make the drive over I think.

[XJnine]

That's one heck of a drive.

If hadn't already driven so far I could have brought the family up your way a couple weeks back. I took the family on a cross country trek. Northern route out to California and a I-40 to I-10 route back to Florida. 6500 miles of cruising in the Suburban, aww yeah!

[Das Capitolin]

So this morning I am already in 11th place, and will be in 10th (under Scott) by Friday or Saturday.

I predict that I could overtake Scott for 9th place before the contest begins next month, but its going to be damn close.

[Scott]

Screw that, you asked for it. Firing up my 8 way Operton Dual core server.

[Das Capitolin]

Screw that, you asked for it. Firing up my 8 way Operton Dual core server.

I shouldn't have said anything...

...now I have to start installing on my fleet of workstations, and not just servers. :twisted:

[GIBSON]

Don't any of you guys know someone working at a supercomputer facility like Blue Gene? :p I bet those could crunch quite a few WU's

[Das Capitolin]

Don't any of you guys know someone working at a supercomputer facility like Blue Gene? :p I bet those could crunch quite a few WU's

Even if I did, would I bother to mention something like this before the contest even started?

Just wait and see.

[Das Capitolin]

Screw that, you asked for it. Firing up my 8 way Operton Dual core server.

Uh-oh. Someone will be in 9th place right under Scott before the end of the week. I'm gaining speed!!!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/Das_Capitolin/FAH/cert4000.jpg

It looks like I'm averaging almost 1000 points a day.

[XJnine]

You're definitely putting up some impressive numbers.

[Kougar]

You're definitely putting up some impressive numbers.

I'll second that! Just out of curiosity, where are you getting these certs from? I have more points than Scott, but never got a certificate to show for it... :mrgreen:

Ohh, look at what I found...

Check out that Bjorn3d user trendline, the first graph on the page. HERE (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=129259) Looks like Das Capitolin is going to pass Scott on the 15th of August... :mrgreen:

[Scott]

Yo don't have more points than me!!

[Bio-Hazard]

To bad I can't transfer some of my old accounts over to here, some of them are somewhat higher than what Scott has...........;)

1 sbrehm72255 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=sbrehm72255)6003 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=sbrehm72255&pts=6003)112 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=sbrehm72255&pts=112&t=wus&bg=3)12772 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=12772)

1 Bio-Hazard (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=Bio%2DHazard)25069 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Bio-Hazard&pts=25069)356 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Bio-Hazard&pts=356&t=wus&bg=3)38296 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=38296)
2 Bio-Hazard (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=Bio%2DHazard)324 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Bio-Hazard&pts=324)2 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Bio-Hazard&pts=2&t=wus&bg=3)40636 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=40636)

1 death (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=death)51682 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=death&pts=51682)551 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=death&pts=551&t=wus&bg=3)34688 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=34688)
2 DEATH (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=DEATH)24742 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=DEATH&pts=24742)339 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=DEATH&pts=339&t=wus&bg=3)32639 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=32639)
3 Death (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=Death)16191 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Death&pts=16191)206 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Death&pts=206&t=wus&bg=3)12599 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=12599)
4 DEATH (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=DEATH)320 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=DEATH&pts=320)2 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=DEATH&pts=2&t=wus&bg=3)47999 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=47999)
5 Death (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=Death)65 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Death&pts=65)2 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Death&pts=2&t=wus&bg=3)31688 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=31688)
6 death (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=death)49 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=death&pts=49)2 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=death&pts=2&t=wus&bg=3)11108 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=11108)

I thimk those are all the ones I folded for at one time or another........;)

[Kougar]

To bad I can't transfer some of my old accounts over to here, some of them are somewhat higher than what Scott has...........;)

:mrgreen: That always seems to be the catch, if there wasn't quite so many different programs out there... :wink:

Well, I better keep quiet myself, I don't have a Conroe yet to beef up my dormant fleet... http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=184891 (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=184891) :mrgreen:

Edit: Dang Sbrehm, that's alot of accounts?! I just have my paltry one... :-P

[werty316]

You can view certificates for every user here (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=41608)

[Das Capitolin]

I'll second that! Just out of curiosity, where are you getting these certs from? I have more points than Scott, but never got a certificate to show for it... :mrgreen:

Ohh, look at what I found...

Check out that Bjorn3d user trendline, the first graph on the page. HERE (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=129259) Looks like Das Capitolin is going to pass Scott on the 15th of August... :mrgreen:

I predict September. If the contest actually takes place next month, I will have to steer the bulk of my resources towards the contest during August. I don't like how it reveals how many CPU's I am using, though.

[Kougar]

The CPUs thing isn't very accurate, it overrated mine by at least 5 CPUs already... most of those due to hyperthreading, program shuffling, and switching from the GUI to consoles on two PCs. :roll: All of the stats from that site originate from the folding@home website's own stat feeds...

[Das Capitolin]

The CPUs thing isn't very accurate, it overrated mine by at least 5 CPUs already... most of those due to hyperthreading, program shuffling, and switching from the GUI to consoles on two PCs. :roll: All of the stats from that site originate from the folding@home website's own stat feeds...

That explains a few things. Athough I wish that I had kept it low key because now I have shown my hand.

This looks good for me, though: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=41608

It claims August 11th now. I still think I might catch him by months end. :twisted:

[Das Capitolin]

Okay, so I am set to surpass Scott before the end of the month. It took putting F@H on every system I could, and now everyone knows what I have, but at least I will get him before months end.

[tomato]

Hmmm... that sounded like a challenge, Scott! Are you up for it? Ready, FIGHT! :P ;)

[Das Capitolin]

Hmmm... that sounded like a challenge, Scott! Are you up for it? Ready, FIGHT! :P ;)

Aside from maybe making some of the HT machines run two FAH's at once, the ships at full throttle so to speak. At present, I am set on course to surpass Scott almighty on the 28th of July.

[Kougar]

Aside from maybe making some of the HT machines run two FAH's at once, the ships at full throttle so to speak. At present, I am set on course to surpass Scott almighty on the 28th of July.

Processors with HyperThreading tend to show anywhere from a 15% to 30% increase in PPD production, depending on the program core being used by the WU. However running two at once still does slow down the overall time to completion per WU, and you must manually configure them with different CPU ID #s to prevent conflictions.

Goes to show still MS has some work to do on how their OSs "use" that CPU, I guess... ;)

[Das Capitolin]

Processors with HyperThreading tend to show anywhere from a 15% to 30% increase in PPD production, depending on the program core being used by the WU. However running two at once still does slow down the overall time to completion per WU.

I realize it may produce more long term, but I think that there is a performance hit that can be seen. This performance hit is not evident in true dual core CPU's, or when an HT CPU runs only one client.

In other news, it looks like Scott has started to up his output. However, I am still on track for 8th place before the last week in July. After that I have a pretty easy time up until etr for 4th place.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=41608

[Kougar]

I realize it may produce more long term, but I think that there is a performance hit that can be seen. This performance hit is not evident in true dual core CPU's, or when an HT CPU runs only one client.

Well either there is an performance hit or there is a performance increase, but not both... ;) I was told by those already in the know that HT yields larger production numbers, and I've seen as much myself on my machine. You can try to calculate the PPD out here (http://fahinfo.org/index.php?news=true) for yourself, although because so many different cores are used the figures are not always a good sampling for every CPU you would want to approximate.

An easier way is to simply watch the timestamps on your consoles when each save occurs for both WUs individually, then note the changes in the time taken once both WUs are concurrently running. If it incurred a performance hit the time taken to complete each save cycle would double, but instead it seems to only increase by a third for both WUs... ;)

[Das Capitolin]

I have just surpassed Scott for 8th place on the folding team.

He tried to put up a fight... but too little too late!

Now, he must go on living in my shadow ;-) ;-)

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/Das_Capitolin/FAH/cert20k.jpg

[werty316]

Good job but Scott is still ahead of you ;)

[Das Capitolin]

Good job but Scott is still ahead of you ;)

No, he's not. The team scoreboards are here:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=41608 and here: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=41608

I have a feeling that he did not fold last night.

[werty316]

As of your post with your certificate he was ahead of you still. Yeah just wait Scott will be back up there in no time.

[Kougar]

Gah, I just finally wheezed over the 25,000 mark after shutting down my farm... I guess I'm next on your hitlist. I don't think even a Kentsfield could save me now... :(

Oh, and I guess your post explains the stickied Widescreen thread! ;)

[Das Capitolin]

Gah, I just finally wheezed over the 25,000 mark after shutting down my farm... I guess I'm next on your hitlist. I don't think even a Kentsfield could save me now... :(

I don't see you on the Bjorn3D team. Are you under a different name, or a different team?

[werty316]

Kougar Folds for Anandtech.

[Kougar]

If I could fold for all the sites I am a member of I would do so. Unfortunately I had to choose between them... at the time I looked at Anandtech, and also Ars Technica's Team Egg Roll as I was just in the process of starting out here. ;) As much as I'd like to be on the team that's in the stratosphere in points and 9th place overall as Team Egg Roll is, I went with Anandtech since they have some of the most friendly forums I know and I love the website. Which means I had to turn down MadShrimps, THG, XtremeSystems, ArsTechnica and Bjorn3d, not to mention whomever else has folding teams I don't know of ;)

Infact, right now I'd be sorely tempted to join Overclockers Austraila's team... at least just until they surpass HardOCP in raw points, as HardOCP is sitting at the top of the folding hill, if only for a few more weeks... :mrgreen:

I'd stick this in my sig, but direct linking isn't enabled here (Which is fine by me): http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/sigs/sigimage.php?u=184891 (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/sigs/sigimage.php?u=184891)

[Das Capitolin]

So in just three short weeks, I was able to amass 55k points and climb all the way up to 5th place.

While I was walking all over the other folders, I noticed a trend:
People who have not folded in some time started folding again once they see me coming. This is too bad, since your computer is likely to be turned on, and F#H should run right along with it. I play BF2 with it running, and have no problems at all.

[GIBSON]

hèhè, I just surpassed werty today. Take that werty! :p

[Das Capitolin]

hèhè, I just surpassed werty today. Take that werty! :p

Good job Gibson, I think that you will pass many others if you keep at it.

[werty316]

You guys think its funny that I someone who is running one instance got surpassed by someone who is running more than one instance? Blah blah blah anyone can surpass me when I am only running it on one cpu so shut it! You wanted to encourage users to Fold :roll:

[GIBSON]

Blah blah blah anyone can surpass me when I am only running it on one cpu so shut it!
to be accurate, I am running just about one cpu too! I've got another really old rig running F@H too and in just about a week and a half it has been able to crunch one (1) WU!
Not to mention I always get these crappy projects that deliver practically nill points. (look at the amount of wu's completed versus yours werty ;))

[Das Capitolin]

When Werty mentioned he got a 200,000 step project I couldn't believe it. I have only gotten a 100,000 step project as my largest. Don't worry though, smaller projects mean that you will finish them sooner and be on to the next project faster.

[werty316]

Thats still more than one instance.
to be accurate, I am running just about one cpu too! I've got another really old rig running F@H too and in just about a week and a half it has been able to crunch one (1) WU!
Not to mention I always get these crappy projects that deliver practically nill points. (look at the amount of wu's completed versus yours werty ;))

Then stop picking on me you immature jerks. Both you and and Das have been riding my ass with no reason.

[Das Capitolin]

Thats still more than one instance.

Then stop picking on me you immature jerks. Both you and and Das have been riding my ass with no reason.

Nobody is picking on you Werty! We are just being competitive, just as you are. I thought you had a dual-core system though? Shouldn't you be running two console clients then?

[GIBSON]

Thats still more than one instance.


Then stop picking on me you immature jerks. Both you and and Das have been riding my ass with no reason.
Oh c'mon werty, can't handle a small laugh? It wasn't meaning to offend you, hence the :p. And we're not riding your ass, we're not gay (well I'm sure I'm not and Das probably ain't too :lol:) I wouldn't be wondered if some people were to get irritated because of you though werty, you have been posting a lot of crap and after a few weeks some people might have it up to somewhere.;-)

[werty316]

Oh c'mon werty, can't handle a small laugh? It wasn't meaning to offend you, hence the :p. And we're not riding your ass, we're not gay (well I'm sure I'm not and Das probably ain't too :lol:) I wouldn't be wondered if some people were to get irritated because of you though werty, you have been posting a lot of crap and after a few weeks some people might have it up to somewhere.;-)
Can't take it when you guys have bashed me before. You only get one chance to make a good impression.

Nobody is picking on you Werty! We are just being competitive, just as you are. I thought you had a dual-core system though? Shouldn't you be running two console clients then?

No I have 10 dualcores running :lol: you thought wrong.

I guess having a "post like a madman contest" brings out the worst in people because I have the most posts.

[Das Capitolin]

Oh c'mon werty, can't handle a small laugh? It wasn't meaning to offend you, hence the :p. And we're not riding your ass, we're not gay (well I'm sure I'm not and Das probably ain't too :lol:) I wouldn't be wondered if some people were to get irritated because of you though werty, you have been posting a lot of crap and after a few weeks some people might have it up to somewhere.;-)

Yeah Werty, relax and just have some fun with the jabbing. It's not like an Internet fight will amount to anything anyway. We could have just PM'ed you if we wanted to say something... just as you could have.

[Enigmachine]

When Werty mentioned he got a 200,000 step project I couldn't believe it. I have only gotten a 100,000 step project as my largest. Don't worry though, smaller projects mean that you will finish them sooner and be on to the next project faster.


What? :) I installed several instances and they ALL got 500,000 step projects! (collagen protein) It tooks me 4 days to get listed on the team page...

I can't wait to see how fast I can get through smaller wu's, though I assume the number of steps isn't linearly equivalent to the duration of the folding, it probably depends on the core used...

[Absolut352]

Working my way up. Ive gotten about 1000 points in 2 days. Is that any good?

[Kougar]

What? :) I installed several instances and they ALL got 500,000 step projects! (collagen protein) It tooks me 4 days to get listed on the team page...

I can't wait to see how fast I can get through smaller wu's, though I assume the number of steps isn't linearly equivalent to the duration of the folding, it probably depends on the core used...

Exactly. I have seen the same core and the same WU using the same steps, but they tweaked one variable and the duration/time involved nearly doubled. I've pretty much concluded that it's impossible to compare one WU to another, because even with everything being equal the settings they tweak on the exact same folding simulation can cause a sizeable difference anyway. If you fold for awhile you'll start to notice you sometimes get the same project again, or the same project but with some random variable tweaked....

Absolut, that's a pretty decent rate... I'd guess a dual core AMD rig? ;)

[Absolut352]

Some dual core and some single. I only installed 1 instance on each machine so far. On 7 machines at work and 3 in my home. Not all of them will fold 24/7.

[Absolut352]

Also I tried installing 2 instances on my main rig and it made the cpu fan too loud for me. I also tried it at work and 1 of users came up to me and was like, "Hey uhhhh my computer is running real slow". So im sticking with single instance.

[werty316]

"Hey uhhhh my computer is running real slow"

Also don't forget run one instance on a single core and two instances on a dualcore max.

Are you running the console or GUI version. The console verison shouldn't slow your computer down as long as the computer has decent specs.

[GIBSON]

"Hey uhhhh my computer is running real slow"

Also don't forget run one instance on a single core and two instances on a dualcore max.

Are you running the console or GUI version. The console verison shouldn't slow your computer down as long as the computer has decent specs.
There shouldn't be any slowdown of the computer regardless it's specs as FAH is designed to only use idle processing cycles. It basically can't slow down a system. If you're running two instances on a single core cpu though, I think there might be some strange things happening then.

[werty316]

When I ran the GUI open and my mouse slowed down but when I minimized it my mouse no longer suffered any slow downs. Running two instance would just slow down the process for both instances so theres not point on doing that.

[Absolut352]

The user in question was running autocad 2007. And it wasnt alot of slow down but it was indeed noticable while running 2 instances. And thats the GUI version. Rather than trouble shoot it i just stopped the 2nd instance and all was fine. The last thing i want to do is hurt anyones productivity. But now i have 10 machines at work folding and 5 of them are running 24/7.

[=CDU=Above]

I am currently at 1, count it!!!, ONE work unit completed and 178 points. TADAAA.

I'll mess with the setting to see if I can step that up a bit.

[borschtBomber[SS]]

haha, I'm at a mighty 2. Before you know it I'll be pressing XJ for the top spot. ;-) :lol:

[=CDU=Above]

Ok, I've made the desision to set it to 90% CPU usage when I go to bed at night. That ought to get it up and runnin' like a turd of hurtles.

[werty316]

Why not just leave it to 100%?

[GIBSON]

Why not just leave it to 100%?
lol, I was thinking the same thing:-D

[=CDU=Above]

I never give 100% percent. LOL

[Das Capitolin]

I never give 100% percent. LOL

Right, I have shown =CDU=Above how to make F@H output 110% while only supplying the CPU with 10% power. It's called communist folding.

[Enigmachine]

In Russia, the proteins fold you!

[Kougar]

In Russia, the proteins fold you!

With all of that background radiation levels in many areas in Russia, I have no doubt of this. :???:

[Das Capitolin]

Yay! I made it to 4th place on our team. XJNine is still in my sights, but he seems to be putting up more of a fight lately.

I should be in first place my this time next month.

[Bio-Hazard]

I only started only 11 days ago on the 1st of the month and I'm up to 16th on the list.

[Kougar]

Every time I draw near to Jesus Christy he pulls ahead a little more to match... and I see Scott is putting in some extra numbers too!

My secret weapon is finished and primed though, time to bring it to bear and see what she can do... :twisted:

[Das Capitolin]

In other news, I have just finished my 500th WU and will make 100K points today.

[XJnine]

You're climbing up there fast! Good work!

[Das Capitolin]

It looks like DeathIncarnate (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=129258) will be passing up Casper for 2nd place, who hasn't been olding for us in a long while. I just cracked 100k points, so I have a ways to go before I challenge XJNine for the pole position.

I also had to replace two servers this past week, and will not see them folding again as the client has purchased the new systems outright.

Looks like it will take a few extra weeks to get into the leaders position, but that's ok.

[Kougar]

Sorry to hear about your loss of F@H systems Das... but really it's only two less drops in the lake in your case, I think... :mrgreen:

Looks like I'm stuck in 10th until I can get past Rayawn, but soon as I do I'll overtake Scott and huggies just afterwards for 7th place... :twisted:

[Mirrim]

Somehow I doubt I'll have enough cpu power here at home to beat you all up at the top. However, doesn't mean I don't plan on moving up the team list from my current position! It seems kind of silly to be getting into the spirit of this in a competitive manner, but.. hmmm, maybe not. It puts a smile on my face.

Congrats on the 100K points too, Das ;)

[Das Capitolin]

Somehow I doubt I'll have enough cpu power here at home to beat you all up at the top. However, doesn't mean I don't plan on moving up the team list from my current position! It seems kind of silly to be getting into the spirit of this in a competitive manner, but.. hmmm, maybe not. It puts a smile on my face.

Congrats on the 100K points too, Das ;)

Mirrim: my overly-competitive attitude led me to the folding with one mission - beat Scott. Well, three weeks into folding he was behind me. Five weeks into folding I had completed 500 WU's and 100K points.

Anything can happen.

[Enigmachine]

It seems kind of silly to be getting into the spirit of this in a competitive manner, but.. hmmm, maybe not. It puts a smile on my face.

Congrats on the 100K points too, Das ;)

Yes, it's silly, but it's fun. In what other competition is the goal to possibly help as many people as possible? :) I've never heard of competitive emergency room treatments or world championship of blood drives. :)

And since nobody can possibly get hurt, I'm all for it. :)

At least until I make a virus that goes and changes all the IDs on Das Capitolin's machines and subvert thems to my cause. ;)

[Absolut352]

I just want to be in the top 10. Looks like it will happen soon.

[Gray]

Here is what I was up to before this month.....

[Enigmachine]

Sigh, it looks like my brand new heat sink won't fit. It was an impulse buy, so no biggie, I'll find somewhere else to use it in, but I'm still stuck with a 65 c CPU at 50% usage. I'll do a more thourough cleaning but I guess I'll have to buy a real heat sink if I want to keep that machine folding! :(

What's a good, quiet socket 775 heat sink? Better than the Intel reference?

[Mirrim]

I've been running this one on my P4 D 805. Doesn't take up much room either, considering it's in a Lian Li mini

http://www.sharkacomputers.com/cnlowprhepic.html

[Bio-Hazard]

I've got 2 of these Vapochill Micro's sitting around here doing nothing. They work pretty good and should keep stuff fairly cool.
They are one of the better coolers on a AMD system, but I've never ran them on a Intel so I haven't a clue as to how well they perform on your system. There are a ton of reviews out on them, if you're interested.

http://www.jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=3098

[Enigmachine]

I found a pretty good price on Zalman CNPS9500 LED (65$ can) so I'll probably get that + the Firefly DVDs. :)

It's a bit strange that heat sinks cost as much as motherboards these days. :roll:

[werty316]

I found a pretty good price on Zalman CNPS9500 LED (65$ can) so I'll probably get that + the Firefly DVDs. :)

It's a bit strange that heat sinks cost as much as motherboards these days. :roll:
You get what you pay for I guess.

[Kougar]

After some careful browsing and helping a guy OC his own machine I think I can reasonably say the Zalman 9500CNPS is overpriced for what it can do. I would only suggest the Scythe Ninja, it is a few notches higher in performance and at a better price, $35-$40 if you shop around.

I was debating on a 9500AM2 myself as it looks great... but I need performance more than looks and it's not like I've ever owned a single case with a side window anyway. My Scythe Ninja should arrive Monday. :-P

I'd especially recommend it for a hot 805, doubly so if you are going to be OCing... If you get one just make sure to buy the "Plus" version, same price but with a 120mm Nexus fan that is so quiet it's gotten incredibly high marks from SPCR.

[werty316]

I recommend the TT Typhoon as it one of the best air coolers and is not expensive like most/all Zalman products.

[Enigmachine]

Except I have only found one store in Canada that has Scythe Ninjas, and I wouldn't trust them with my credit card. :P And it sells the Ninja only 5$ less than the Zalman. (These are Canadian loonie$)

The Zalman is my 2nd choice. :D And yes it's expensive, part of that is because of all the mounting options, the fanmate 2 which I'm not going to use, and so on (who uses the included thermal grease?!).

The Zalman has pretty high marks on SPCR too.

[Kougar]

Gotta be more than one Canadian store that sells the Ninjas...

Exact same set up, but the Ninja bests the Zalman by 5c, and at 15db less noise to boot. And for US etailers, it's up to $20 less than the Zalman.

SPCR SCNJ-1000P Scythe Ninja Review (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article251-page4.html)

SPCR Zalman 9500LED Review (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article267-page4.html)

[markkleb]

I second the Ninja. But I first the AC Freezer..It comes with a ok 90mm fan that can be changed to a 120 like I did in my CrossFlow. The 120mm AC12 fan Blows MUCH more air than the stock one and is for all purposes silent.

And because its bigger can help cool the mobo and memory too.

PS- dont forget to paint the top fin....

[Bio-Hazard]

I haven't run all those coolers on a Itel setup, but I have on my AMD rig and so far the best air cooler as been the TT Big Typhoon, even with it's low speed fan. You and get even more speed out of it by upgrading the fan and putting it on some sort of a controler to quiet it down when not needed. I put a Zalman 9500 on my wifes rig and it works great at the stock setting she is running, but as soon as I crank up the speeds a little it quickly falls behind most other high-end coolers costing much less.

[Enigmachine]

I couldn't find any of the very best heat sinks at a reasonable price (and that could get here in a reasonable time) so I installed a CNPS9500... I haven't tweaked the machine so much because it's critical, so the fan is just running at maximum speed. Quiet enough that I can't tell it apart from the rest of the machines running here. It's currently at 50 c under 100% load, that's 25 c lower than before, so not bad.

I'll probably do some tweaking when I get a proper backup server, hopefully get another 10 c cooler.

Anyway, I can now fold again. :-D

[Das Capitolin]

It was a good run for XJNine, but today a new king of the hill was crowned.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=41608

[Enigmachine]

Congrats Das Capitolin!

If I ever need a protein folded, stapled or mutilated, I know who to go to!

I'm still holding on spot 15... But I might pass liqnit tomorrow. :D

[Das Capitolin]

I'm telling you, folding is very competitive if you really get into it. XJNine was holding me off for a month longer then I expected, but all castles must crumble. I expect to be at the top for awhile, at least until one of you really gets tired of seeing me at the top.

Keep on climbing up the ladder!

[tomato]

Congratulations to the new King of the Hill ;)

[GIBSON]

Congrats das!

[XJnine]

I don't know how I missed this earlier. Good job Das!

[Das Capitolin]

Well, I kind of thought you might not be happy I pushed you off the top of the hill, but it's good to know we are all just doing this for fun around here. :)

[XJnine]

I think it's great I got passed up. That means we have some serious folding going on which is a good thing.

If Scott passes me I may have an issue though... ;-)

[markkleb]

I just got passed by a GIRL!!!!! Great job Mirrim:wink:

hey we are in the 330s, soon we will be in the 200s.

[Mirrim]

Muahahaha! I saw that, Markkleb ;) Perhaps you noticed someone new named Llanerion on the list? A very close friend has started folding now, even though he hasn't made a forum appearance as yet. In fact, proteini folding is part of his field in cellular biology. Working on him to get active in the forums as well.

Glad to see as a team we're moving ahead. This is a great place to be and we're making a contribution while having fun and a little friendly competition.

[Llanerion]

Protein structures are a big part of what we look at here, but we don't use iffy best guess procedurally deduced protein models =P And hi to everyone else as well.

Llan

[markkleb]

Welcome to Bjorn3D Llanerion, we could use the help folding...

[Llanerion]

Thank you for the welcome, planning on installing the console version on a the rest of the systems around the house as a service, whenever I can get around to it. Figure it can't hurt.

[Mirrim]

Uh oh... guess I'd better set up for the second core on this machine... feeling the heat from above ;P

[Das Capitolin]

Yay! I have a half-million points.

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Das_Capitolin&pts=500935

[Kougar]

If only I had a crossfire rig... you'd be in trouble :mrgreen: Congrats though, Das. :)

My F@H farm was decimated, sold one machine off and I had to shut down the rest, and my laptop is up in Austin while they try to figure out what's going on with it... so I only have the machine in my sig folding for the moment.

Not bad that a single C2D can put out almost 500 PPD... ;)

[XJnine]

Congrats on the milestone Das!

Now that the weather has cooled down I'm getting my other machines up and folding. I won't catch you but i'll be able to crank out the points a bit faster.

[borschtBomber[SS]]

congrats Das. I hadn't checked the team page in a bit, just realised I am in the top 20 on the team. :) At some point I passed up sbrehm :keepfolding:

[tomato]

Congrats, Das! How is it at the top? :P

[Das Capitolin]

Congrats, Das! How is it at the top? :P

Lonely. Even XJ is so far away now I can barely see anyone.