World War III

[Scott]

Well I honestly think the world is on the virge of WWIII. The actions taken today is only going to get worse and the world will be sucked into it.

What do you think?

[XJnine]

I totally agree.

I think Hezbollah is trying to bring it about by trying to take the Israeli soldiers to Iran. They know Israel will attack Iran if that happens and once that happens that will draw the US, Russia, China, and every radical muslim group in the world into the war. Once that happens it can only get worse (if it possibly could).

[Gray]

Things seem to be ramping up quickly!
I have been making that comment lately Scott.
This is getting real Big real Fast.

This world is becoming even more unstable. Do you think that the "Cowboy nation" can win this one or is the US going to be able to negotiate some of this away?

I am personally trying to understand why my country (Canada) has one of the Largest land masses on the planet and has one of the most usless defense systems around. Let alone Attacking force.

All comments about the US doing it for us need not be made, I wholehartedly agree with that statment.

[XJnine]

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/738315.html

Looks like all it will take is for Israel to attack Syria. Syria supports Hezbollah. Syria is next door to Israel. Hmm....

[Scott]

Well Israel I think is going to blow the **** out of everything around them soon I think. The US will probably only move in once China or Russia attacks Israel.

[Rob]

Well, I'll have to quibble just a bit. I think WW III is already over. It was the Cold War of USA vs. Soviet Union.

However, the current war, which I call WW IV, started even before WW III ended in 1989~1991. WW IV started in 1948 with the Arab Muslim gang-bang on the newly formed nation of Israel. Later this war spilled out to the rest of the world. The palestinians brought war to wherever Jews are. Muslims across the world have taken up the "cause" of the palestinians and use it as justification of their worldwide jihad against Jews/Christians/Hindus/Buddhists/Muslims. Yes, jihad against Muslims...the wrong kind of Muslims in the jihadist eye. (Say, Iraqi Shiites, for example.)

Now, we see two dictatorships in the Middle East (which is not *suddenly* on fire, it has been on fire since the Dark Ages) actively calling the shots in their proxy war against Israel and the US. These two nations are Iran and Syria. Iran bankrolls Hezballah while Syria provides Hez'b safe haven and safe transport routes for weapons and personnel. Iran and Syria also bankroll, arm, and train "insurgents" in Iraq. (On a side note they aren't "insurgents", they're terrorists.)

Iran has deployed Revolutionary Guard troops within Hez'b territory in Lebanon. Iran controls Hez'b. Hez'b is not Lebanese...they just use Lebanese territory to operate. Sure, there are some Lebanese within Hez'b, but they're a minority. Hez'b is made up of the usual suspects: Syrians, Iranians, Saudis, Libyans, Algerians, Yemeni, and Pakistani. Part of Hez'b supply line is through the Beirut Internat'l Airport...thus explains why Israel was so quick to crater the runways there.

Hez'b internat'l headquarters is in Damascus, Syria. Hamas's internat'l headquarters is in Saudi Arabia. Iran supplies weapons to both Hamas and Hez'b.

It's time to end all of this. It's time to defeat the jihadist culture, mindset, and aspirations for a worldwide Islamic caliphate. Isreal has been under relentless attack since 1948. I hope Israel cuts the shackles off its soldiers and let's them do what must be done once and for all. Unfortunately, the US military is too shackled by the ACLU and Congress to do what must be done and I am saying that as a former US Air Force airman. You see what happens to US Marines who do their job...they end up on the front page of the New York Anti-American Times as rapists, torturers, murderers, and baby-killers. Or they get thrown in jail. Israel can't count on a country like the US who is held hostage by radical, pro-terrorist lawyers and courts.

I hope this war escalates into full-on Middle East war with USA/Israel/Iraq vs. the rest. Sure, it's fantasy thinking to imagine Iraq teaming up with Israel...but I seriously doubt Iraq would actively work to hinder Israel's war on the Islamic jihadists and their sponsors.

Call me a war monger...sure. I am. I will always go to war to protect free nations...no matter who they are or where they are. Thus explains my signature.

[s_gibson]

Israel should be able to defend itself. I think the US needs to be prepared to come to Israels aid if they need it. I would hope Russia and China can restrain themselves, although China would probably be the most troublesome of the 2.

[werty316]

I am surprised there wasn't any retaliation after 9/11 happened. Canada is screw if a war erupts. Whoever lands the nukes on the opposing side wins.

[Das Capitolin]

Well, I'll have to quibble just a bit. I think WW III is already over. It was the Cold War of USA vs. Soviet Union.

Since when do the US and USSR constitute the "World"? Now maybe if Europe, Asia, Australia, and South America took part in the cold war, it could have been considered a world war. But they didn't.

However, the current war, which I call WW IV, started even before WW III ended in 1989~1991. WW IV started in 1948 with the Arab Muslim gang-bang on the newly formed nation of Israel. Later this war spilled out to the rest of the world. The palestinians brought war to wherever Jews are. Muslims across the world have taken up the "cause" of the palestinians and use it as justification of their worldwide jihad against Jews/Christians/Hindus/Buddhists/Muslims. Yes, jihad against Muslims...the wrong kind of Muslims in the jihadist eye. (Say, Iraqi Shiites, for example.). Rob, having served from 1992-2000 as a Force Recon Marine, I could tell you that these conflicts are very very far from a world war. Even calling them war is a stretch. We invade countries, supress their army very easily, and control their political system. Not much of a war, if you ask me; and what we are doing there now is even further from war and more like a political chess match.


Now, we see two dictatorships in the Middle East (which is not *suddenly* on fire, it has been on fire since the Dark Ages) actively calling the shots in their proxy war against Israel and the US. These two nations are Iran and Syria. Iran bankrolls Hezballah while Syria provides Hez'b safe haven and safe transport routes for weapons and personnel. Iran and Syria also bankroll, arm, and train "insurgents" in Iraq. (On a side note they aren't "insurgents", they're terrorists.)

Iran has deployed Revolutionary Guard troops within Hez'b territory in Lebanon. Iran controls Hez'b. Hez'b is not Lebanese...they just use Lebanese territory to operate. Sure, there are some Lebanese within Hez'b, but they're a minority. Hez'b is made up of the usual suspects: Syrians, Iranians, Saudis, Libyans, Algerians, Yemeni, and Pakistani. Part of Hez'b supply line is through the Beirut Internat'l Airport...thus explains why Israel was so quick to crater the runways there.

Hez'b internat'l headquarters is in Damascus, Syria. Hamas's internat'l headquarters is in Saudi Arabia. Iran supplies weapons to both Hamas and Hez'b..

OKay, so far so good. Only one problem: now WMD's, so no real reason to be there over other nations that contribute to terrorism. Hence the cry of the ACLU and anyone else who can put 1 and 1 together.


It's time to end all of this. It's time to defeat the jihadist culture, mindset, and aspirations for a worldwide Islamic caliphate. Isreal has been under relentless attack since 1948. I hope Israel cuts the shackles off its soldiers and let's them do what must be done once and for all. Unfortunately, the US military is too shackled by the ACLU and Congress to do what must be done and I am saying that as a former US Air Force airman. You see what happens to US Marines who do their job...they end up on the front page of the New York Anti-American Times as rapists, torturers, murderers, and baby-killers. Or they get thrown in jail. Israel can't count on a country like the US who is held hostage by radical, pro-terrorist lawyers and courts..
There's a great story documenting the life of John Walker in this months Esquire. You should find it and read it. You might be surprised that some of our US military are not acting in accordance with the UCMJ, which we all swore to at our time of indoctrination. Furthermore, it is our acts that fuel these idealists, so "doing our job" the right way and doing it your way may result is either a small battle, or a bigger idealist battle.

I hope this war escalates into full-on Middle East war with USA/Israel/Iraq vs. the rest. Sure, it's fantasy thinking to imagine Iraq teaming up with Israel...but I seriously doubt Iraq would actively work to hinder Israel's war on the Islamic jihadists and their sponsors.

Call me a war monger...sure. I am. I will always go to war to protect free nations...no matter who they are or where they are. Thus explains my signature.

It saddens me to see someone wish for war. Despite your time in the Air Force I have to wonder if you ever saw combat action? Anyone who has ever heard the buzz of bullets over their head knows that very instant that only an armchair commander wishes for that sort of thing. Furthermore, are you preparred to face a collective ideal fighting with nothing to lose? What if China see's this as an opportunity? I think that the fighting has always shown us one thing: nothing. The war is fought, people for both sides are killed in mass numbers, and when the numbers are so big and the fighting finally stops, we say we did it for freedom.

Three conflicts I fought in: Somalia, Saudi Arabia, and Haiti. Amount of freedom retained or given: 0.

I say **** war, and if it should happen then warmongers should go in first so they don't miss their big chance to be a Memorial Day hero. Everyone else should grow up to have a stake in this country, and push it's leaders for better diplomatic relations.

It would cost the US $33 Billion a year to feed, clothe, shelter, and medically care for evey person in need on Earth, according to FEMA. However, for $426 billion we can keep budgeting an army that has so far proved incapable of keeping the world at peace with the US.

[GIBSON]

This is probably going to be a diplomatic thing. Lets hope them diplomatics solve this one, if not then this might result in war. And as Das Capitolin said, I wouldn't want to be the one fighting against those brainwashed freaks, they are prepared to die for nothing! If the US, China and Russia behave themselves and stay out of this conflict, then not much harm can happen I think. Let them small countries figure it out themselves, only ones they can hurt then is themselves.
You also said Rob probably didn't have any experience in an actual war/conflict however, even if he would have he wouldn't know that much about it. Pilots just fly over, drop their bombs and get out of there. Only thing they have to watch out for is anti-airguns and other fighterjets.
Just my 2 cents.

[Das Capitolin]

This is probably going to be a diplomatic thing. Lets hope them diplomatics solve this one, if not then this might result in war. And as Das Capitolin said, I wouldn't want to be the one fighting against those brainwashed freaks, they are prepared to die for nothing! If the US, China and Russia behave themselves and stay out of this conflict, then not much harm can happen I think. Let them small countries figure it out themselves, only ones they can hurt then is themselves.
You also said Rob probably didn't have any experience in an actual war/conflict however, even if he would have he wouldn't know that much about it. Pilots just fly over, drop their bombs and get out of there. Only thing they have to watch out for is anti-airguns and other fighterjets.
Just my 2 cents.

Gibson I agree with most of your post here. They are all small middle-eastern countries who have been fighting in a war for over a thousand years. Let them finish it without dragging the rest of us into it. But as far as Rob's service goes, I don't put down the service they have done, but instead seek out what the haven't done. Even pilots and crewman have stress during combat, but you are correct in that they are likely to never hear a round overhead.