Which Monitor To Buy????????

[mousiness]

Guys I've lately been looking at an array of monitors at stores and ive stumbled across this new LG 20 inch HDCP monitor at futureshop o.O, and ive also stumbled across a 19 inch monitor (LG) at futureshop also, here are the specs of the monitors from futureshop directly because LG doesnt have a very descriptive site, keep in mind im buying a new pc soon and this monitor will be transfered to that pc... so which one would be the best?

http://ca.lge.com/en/prodmodeldetail.do?actType=search&page=1&modelCategoryId=040103&categoryId=040103&parentId=0401&modelCodeDisplay=L203WT&enlarge=%2Fen%2Fdown%2Fproduct%2F040103%2FM4200C%2 FM4200A_large.jpg&model=Select+a+model

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10071961&catid=22334


BTW this is for wide spreadsheets on my dads IBM pc on a gma900 so will it work?
im leaning towards the 20 inch now and so is my dad, the temptation is so high, but im still confused :confused:

[Scott]

Get the 20".

[mousiness]

so there will be no resolution problems with the gma 900? if so im buying it on wednesday :D

[ToXic_WaSTe]

I would buy the new viewsonic coming out in middle of auggust. Its a 22"
called VX2235wm.

- 1680 x 1050 (WSXGA) Optimum Resolution
- 16.7 Million Colours
- 700:1 Contrast Ratio
- 5ms Response Time
- 300 cd/m2 Brightness
- One Analogue Input
- One DVI Input
- Built-In Rear Speakers
- VESA mounting compatible

This is the one im getting for my rig, since its the sucessor of the VX2025WM 20" which got really good reviews... And this is perfect and they improved the speed to 5ms. If you can wait til august I would buy that, Ive preordered mine.

[Gray]

I think I have herd this before but I would... Get the 20".
If you can afford the 22" then wait for it. but the 20 inch wide is a nice monitor.

[werty316]

Hell if you have the cash buy the 20incher since its only 1" difference even though its gonna be $100 more than the 19". Check out NCIX instead of futureshop. NCIX has great support and better prices.

[mousiness]

ill ask my dad about NCIX but the LG at futureshop is a huge steal at only $399, i dont want something too big thats why im going for a 20 incher widescreen, now the main problem is if it will run properly on widescreen mode on a gma900 (just the start-screen not game resolution)

[tomato]

Go for the 20"!!! Bigger is better :) (especially if your dad is footing the bill/helping you out ;))

[ToXic_WaSTe]

The viewsonic isnt that expensive, and i think the 5ms is worth it. So I say wait a bit and get the 22" vx2235wm.

[Kougar]

I would definitely suggest the wide screen 20". For spreadsheet use alone, you should get widescreen, not to mention movies and other stuff... ;)

GMA900 is pretty bad, but after looking up the specifications you will not have any trouble. 2048x1536 at 85 Hz maximum resolution is the cut off limit of GMA900, well below the resolution and 60hz refresh rate of that 20" display. :)

GMA900 doesn't have a DVI port though, you would need to use a VGA->DVI adapter, which you can find anywhere and everywhere.

[mousiness]

ok then thats good to know that gma900 can handle such resolutions for basic stuff, IBM sells DVI pci-e x1 adapters that allow me to use the existing gma900 except with DVI for only $30 so ill get that so i can run HDCP on that LG monitor, i wish hed buy it for my rig :evil:

[GIBSON]

I would definitely suggest the wide screen 20". For spreadsheet use alone, you should get widescreen, not to mention movies and other stuff... ;)

GMA900 is pretty bad, but after looking up the specifications you will not have any trouble. 2048x1536 at 85 Hz maximum resolution is the cut off limit of GMA900, well below the resolution and 60hz refresh rate of that 20" display. :)

GMA900 doesn't have a DVI port though, you would need to use a VGA->DVI adapter, which you can find anywhere and everywhere.
Er, isn't 85hz better than 60hz?

[Kougar]

Er, isn't 85hz better than 60hz?

Yes, but the 20" LCD display is LCD... it will have a fixed 60hz refersh rate that cannot be changed, because that is how an LCD works. You would only get a 85hz or higher refresh rate off of a CRT display. ;)

Mousiness, $30 for one of those adapters is seriously overpriced!!. You could almost buy a dinky GPU and get one with it for free ;)

Something like this should work fine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814998101 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814998101) Any local store that sells computer parts ought to have these, and that would save you $5 in shipping costs, which is plain absurd :roll:

[GIBSON]

Yes, but the 20" LCD display is LCD... it will have a fixed 60hz refersh rate that cannot be changed, because that is how an LCD works. You would only get a 85hz or higher refresh rate off of a CRT display. ;)

Mousiness, $30 for one of those adapters is seriously overpriced!!. You could almost buy a dinky GPU and get one with it for free ;)

Something like this should work fine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814998101 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814998101) Any local store that sells computer parts ought to have these, and that would save you $5 in shipping costs, which is plain absurd :roll:
lol, I kind of thought 85hz was kind of weird for an lcd. Must have overlooked that it was one of them fishtanks. (yes, i do mean a crt :mrgreen:)

[werty316]

At higher resolutions like 1600x1200 for example I think most LCDs can only run at 60hz.

[Kougar]

At higher resolutions like 1600x1200 for example I think most LCDs can only run at 60hz.

I am almost completely sure the vast majority of LCDs out there are locked at 60hz refresh rate, simply because it is how a LCD is designed to work. My lappy is stuck at 60hz at any resolution, from 800by600, to 1920by1200 native.

[werty316]

I don't think it is since I can set my LCD to 75hz.

[Bio-Hazard]

Refresh rates on LCD's makes zero differance ..........;) 60 works just as well as 75 or whatever.....:)


LCD displays

Much of the discussion of refresh rate does not apply to LCD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCD) monitors. This is because while a phosphor on a CRT will begin to dim as soon as the electron beam passes it, LCD cells open to pass a continuous stream of light, and do not dim until instructed to produce a darker color. Pertaining to LCDs, see also response time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_time).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate


When dealing with LCDs, refresh rate is not much of a concern since they use a different technology to draw the image. Refresh rates as low as 40Hz or 60Hz are perfectly acceptable with LCD monitors.
What is important is the concept of response time – the time in milliseconds it takes for the screen to update the pixel colors. This is a big deal because a slower response time will give the illusion of “ghosting” – the effect of pixels not updating with new information fast enough, so that a trail is left behind a moving object. This usually happens in high action movies or games and is one of the main reasons why LCDs are often not recommended for gamers. This is changing however, as displays with 20ms – which are just fine for gaming - are becoming more prevalent.


http://news.digitaltrends.com/featured_article6.html

[ToXic_WaSTe]

Refresh rates on LCD's makes zero differance ..........;) 60 works just as well as 75 or whatever.....:)


Well, as long as it is above 50hz, cause at 50 or less you can se a distinct flickering of the screen.

[Bio-Hazard]

You still won't get any flicker on the screen so they say as the screen is not refreshed at all, the light LED's, are always on until the screen is changed and that's where the responce time comes into play...............;)

When dealing with LCDs, refresh rate is not much of a concern since they use a different technology to draw the image. Refresh rates as low as 40Hz or 60Hz are perfectly acceptable with LCD monitors.
What is important is the concept of response time – the time in milliseconds it takes for the screen to update the pixel colors.

And checking Samsung's site, they say si the best setting for all the screens that they make. And their screens are in most of the top displays these days.


What Is The Recommended Refresh Rate For LCD Displays?

The optimal refresh rate for all Samsung LCD monitors is 60 Hz, regardless of resolution.

http://erms.samsungusa.com/customer/sea/jsp/faqs/faqs_view.jsp?PG_ID=1&AT_ID=5654&PROD_SUB_ID=28&PROD_ID=-1

And I really don't think that you can even buy a new LCD these days with a refresh rate lower than 60 Hz...............;)

[mousiness]

Yes, but the 20" LCD display is LCD... it will have a fixed 60hz refersh rate that cannot be changed, because that is how an LCD works. You would only get a 85hz or higher refresh rate off of a CRT display. ;)

Mousiness, $30 for one of those adapters is seriously overpriced!!. You could almost buy a dinky GPU and get one with it for free ;)

Something like this should work fine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814998101 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814998101) Any local store that sells computer parts ought to have these, and that would save you $5 in shipping costs, which is plain absurd :roll:
i never knew there was such thing as VGA to DVI adapters isnt it impossible to transfer analogue to digital? o.O, i thought digital could only be set to analog, hmm im gonna go out and buy one tomorrow when i pick the monitor i wonder how it will show the picture thanks for the help kougar!

[mousiness]

huuuuuuuuh this isjust a regular adapter that is included with most DVI video cards this wouldnt tranfer VGA to DVI i think you got confused kougar, this DVI to VGA cable would allow me to use DVI interface on my monitor with the VGA output fromm the pc right? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812189052

[ToXic_WaSTe]

You still won't get any flicker on the screen so they say as the screen is not refreshed at all, the light LED's, are always on until the screen is changed and that's where the responce time comes into play...............;)


Talking about CRT's :wink: Its the same with with tvs and crt monitors. 50 or below and you get flickering. Misread that you said LCD.. LOL :P

[mousiness]

oh and BTW thats an adapter CARD which utilises onboard graphics to link to the DVI output on the CARD to enable DVI use, iyes you misunderstod me kougar