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darkorb

07-22-2006, 03:34 AM

hey guys, i have a 6800gt gigabyte pci-e and recently whenever im playing a game, like my average fps is around lets say 60. im playing then for like 0.5 seconds my fps drops to half, and then comes up back to 60. i got this card mid of april. plz help me out, tomorow im gonna try using that air blaster stuff, compressed air to get the dust out. temps are relatively cool. not doig anything round 60 then full gaming reaches 85 :P, its been like that since iv gotten the card, nothign new

werty316

07-22-2006, 03:56 AM

What game does this frame drop occur?
Do you overclock the card?
Make sure nothing else is running that would take away and CPU cycles (Resources).
What Video card drivers are you using?

darkorb

07-22-2006, 04:06 AM

happens for bf2, nfs mw, warcraft, css, ut2004, and fear. all the games i have
i want to add that the problem is consitent, around every 2 mins it happens
i did oc the card before only my 50 mhz, i really hope that didnt mess it up

werty316

07-22-2006, 04:17 AM

Overclocking only 50MHz shouldn't have affected it. You could try reinstalling video card drivers.

Kougar

07-22-2006, 07:07 AM

Darknob, that sounds suspiciously of a overheating GPU throttling itself back to cool down. I'm getting the feeling you bought this card used?

Other possibilities could be that you did not completely uninstall your previous graphics drivers and they are causing conflictions... If so then you should download http://www.drivercleaner.net/ (http://www.drivercleaner.net/) and let it remove all the drivers it finds... Reboot and then install the most current ones from your GPU manufacturer's website.

Is your computer case getting enough airflow? Insufficient case cooling will greatly add to GPU temps as well. These are just a few ideas to check out first...

darkorb

07-24-2006, 06:14 PM

i was a n00b when i bought the card, i dont think it was used, but the box it came in was open, grrr, and there was nothing else inside other than the card or like the install cd and some intrsurtctions. ill try the drivercleaner and about my case, there is no intake fan, its one of those gay hp cases. but i mounted a fan on the side panel where the door comes off, so i guess that acts like a fan, i also have the gpu cooling fans, where it goes into the pci slot and 2 fans blow directly at the vid card full speed

Kougar

07-25-2006, 05:29 AM

Okay, well then cooling sounds okay... let us know if using that drivercleaner and reinstalling with the most current drivers from Gigabyte's website works for ya. :)

darkorb

07-25-2006, 07:36 AM

did that and i stillg et the problem. i got the drivers form nvidia page. im using the 81.94, i find these ones to be the best

werty316

07-25-2006, 07:35 PM

85c is way too hot for my taste. Try using another video card if you have another one. Last resort would be to do a full windows install.

darkorb

07-26-2006, 07:11 PM

i wana change the heatsink on my gpu from stock to the arctic cooling x1 accelero. i heard its really good. iv read in a magazine some1 with the same card i have was getting same heat as i am. 63 idle, 85 load. but when they swaped to the accelero. they were getting 46stock and 56 load. amazing results

the thing is will the heatsink be easily removed/attached? i looked and saw some screwed so im guessing i can take it off easily but i dont no how hard it will be to put the new one on. will i have to remove the old thermal grease somehow? how will i aply the new one and smear it on.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...805&CatId=0

werty316

07-26-2006, 07:18 PM

It can be easy and it can be difficult but instructions are included to makes things easier.

The Acelero X1 has thermal paste on the cooler when you buy it. You just have to clean the thermal paste off of the GPU core on your 6800GT using isopropyl alcohol.

These reviews can kinda give you an idea on whats required to remove the stock cooler and install the X1:

http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/ac_accelero_x1/index3.shtml
http://techgage.com/article/arctic_cooling_accelero_x1/2

I also guessing you live in Canada since you chose Tigerdirect.ca so I suggest you don't buy from Tigerdirect as that price is a rip off.
$50.99CAD
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2248805&CatId=498

$32.995CAD
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17774&vpn=ACCELERO-X1&manufacture=Arctic%20Cooling

$34.99CAD
*** SALE PRICE *** Regular Price $44.99. A Savings of $10 Until 8/31/2006
http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=4453

darkorb

07-26-2006, 07:43 PM

so what do i buy to clean the old paste

werty316

07-26-2006, 07:46 PM

You could buy some "isopropyl alcohol" at your local drug store.

darkorb

07-26-2006, 08:21 PM

would just a paper towel/tissue gently wiping work?

werty316

07-26-2006, 08:29 PM

YeahI guess that would work but depending on how hard the old thermal paste is it might be difficult as all you would be doing is smudging it around. Its good to use some alcohol to dilute the old thermal paste so it is easy to wipe off.

You could also use Q-tips.

darkorb

07-26-2006, 08:38 PM

wont the alcohol ruin it? im not a fan of putting liquids on my hardware

what about the nv silencer 5

i have a 2 video card cooling fans in my pci slot. it pushes the air towards my excuast fan. the silencer blows its own air out. but the other one keeps the air inside. my vga fans can then push that air towards my exaust fan.

tell me what u think!

werty316

07-26-2006, 11:12 PM

If you used isopropyl alcohol it wouldn't ruin it at all. The isopropyl alcohol evaporates after a few seconds. All you are cleaning is the old thermal paste of the GPU core.

I like the NV5 Silencer since it pushes the hot air outside of the case plus its cheaper by a bit then the Accelero X1.

darkorb

07-26-2006, 11:33 PM

what about performance? i also have
http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=001927&cid=FN.505

which 1 would it help out the most?

werty316

07-27-2006, 01:33 AM

Instead of buying that PCI cooler spend the extra cash and get a NV5 Silencer.

Kougar

07-27-2006, 01:55 AM

What Werty said... I find that a high isopropyl alcohol, cotton balls, and Q-tips are pretty good for cleaning up thermal compounds. Just be sure to only apply the alchohol onto whatever you are using to do the cleaning with and not directly onto whatever you are cleaning. If you still use a little to much, then wait long enough to be absolutely sure it has all evaporated...

I also agree with Werty, getting a aftermarket GPU cooler like the Silencer should have a much larger difference on temps than only buying a PCI slot fan cooler.

darkorb

07-27-2006, 02:32 AM

i already have that pci cooler. im still going to change the heatsink, but im asking which would be more effective with the pci cooler i have. working together kinda.

werty316

07-27-2006, 04:24 AM

Using a PCI cooler wouldn't help as both the NV5 Silencer and Accelero X1 are covered by a piece of plastic. Both coolers are great and using a PCI cooler wouldn't be necessary.

darkorb

07-27-2006, 04:57 AM

i think ill go for the silencer, looks a bit easier to install and if they dont have it in stock, ill just get the accelero. my pci fan will blow the warm air to the exaust fan. thx alot guys!

darkorb

07-29-2006, 07:14 AM

werty316

07-29-2006, 07:18 AM

So what you are saying is it has a 4-pin and 2-pin connector split from the main cable liek this:

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/126/fanleadbc7.jpg

darkorb

07-29-2006, 07:29 AM

thats excactly it, those 2 dont fit into my graphics cards little port. i dont no what to do

werty316

07-29-2006, 07:29 AM

Odd I would contact Arctic Cooling since nether will fit.

Kougar

07-29-2006, 07:31 AM

i got the nv silencer 5, rev 3 but there is a problem. on my video card i have a 3pin male connector. its for the graphics cards fan on the heatsink. the new one that o bought, nv silencer, has 2 females. 1 which is 2 pin, and 1 which is 4 pin. the stupid thing is compatible with the pci-e 6800gt. but not with mine. what do i do

I can't imagine it not being compatible with your card, just about all GPU's (That I've seen, at any rate) use a 2-pin fan header on the graphics card itself. Do ya have a picture of your specific graphics card with the power connector is uses?

It should be pretty similar to this Gigabyte 256mb 6800GT card:

http://www.guru3d.com/admin/imageview.php?image=3724

darkorb

07-29-2006, 07:31 AM

contact them and say what? i have a 6800gt. that should 100% work with it. its pci-e. i called the store and i guess i have to return it. they say there gonna charge a 25% restocking fee though :(

no thats not my card, mine has a HUGE golden heatsink on it

this is the excact uhm, name GV-NX68T256DH

werty316

07-29-2006, 07:47 AM

Email Arctic Cooling and tell them your situation.

darkorb

07-29-2006, 07:54 AM

that one looks like its agp. mine is pci-e. eveyrthing is the same except i have dual dvi connectors. and pci-e. also i have that sli thing at the top which that card doesnt have.

Kougar

07-29-2006, 11:13 AM

Edited: Skip to the below part! ;)

thats excactly it, those 2 dont fit into my graphics cards little port. i dont no what to do

How do they not fit?? The 2-pin connector goes in the spot circled in red.

that one looks like its agp. mine is pci-e. eveyrthing is the same except i have dual dvi connectors. and pci-e. also i have that sli thing at the top which that card doesnt have.

It doesn't matter on the card, all the 6800GTs have the same 2pin connection in this same spot. It should fit just fine.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/985/2866900jy8.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9220/imageview2qs0.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2932/imageviewig8.jpg

Edit: Ah, I (finally) see your problem!! :lol:

I wouldn't worry about it, and use either the 2pin or the 4pin connector and correctly line up the yellow to red, and black to black.

If you want to be absolutely sure that the voltages are correctly paired off (I've seen a few that didn't match most configurations, oddly enough!), then very closely examine the plastic plugs on both the 2pin silencer and the 3pin on your graphics card. You should see a symbol/"1" on each that denotes ground for the black wires. The 2pin should plug into the 3pin slot without any issue, although if not the 4pin should work depending on how it was pinned out. Worst case scenario the fan simply won't spin, and you'll know to change the connection around and match the wire's colors instead.

http://www.cd-life.net/files/images/GV_NX68T256DH.jpg

werty316

07-29-2006, 06:33 PM

Rememer the connectors like these have those "locks" in the middle that "clicks" to ensure the cable doesn't come loose as highlighted in green so the leads won't lineup unless you take this plastic connector off of the video card.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6932/imageviewig8pf8.jpg

darkorb

07-29-2006, 06:37 PM

werty316

07-29-2006, 07:47 PM

Arctic Cooling won't reply asap since its the weekend.

If you want to you can try to pull off the plastic connector on the fan I marked green two posts up and then the 2-pin from the NV5 should fit. If you do try this use don't force it off so you dont break anything.

I have had that plastic connector come off of a video card when I tried to take the fan connector off and thought "wtf?".

darkorb

07-29-2006, 08:31 PM

but if i rip it off, wont it get ruined? like its super glued on, i doubt it can come offf/ also if it does come off, will it still stay on or will it be loose. like will the connector fall out?

GIBSON

07-29-2006, 08:44 PM

but if i rip it off, wont it get ruined? like its super glued on, i doubt it can come offf/ also if it does come off, will it still stay on or will it be loose. like will the connector fall out?
If it does come off the pins should stay on the board as far as I know. I'm not 100% sure though.

darkorb

07-29-2006, 08:55 PM

i just looked at it. there is no way that is coming off, unless i want to break it

GIBSON

07-29-2006, 09:04 PM

If there would be no other way, then you could solder the wires on. But I reckon that'll be some sort of last resort. You could also cut the connector down as to make it fit into the slot.

darkorb

07-29-2006, 09:11 PM

i was thinking of returning, and just getting another that fits

Kougar

07-29-2006, 09:14 PM

thx for ur help. the one on my card is 3pin, red/yellow/black. the 2 pin on the silencer wont fit inside the 3pin on the card. the plastic are different sizes/shapes

what do i do? i emailed ac but their not responding.

I agree, ya shouldn't expect any support to reply on the weekend...

So there is no way to wedge the 2pin connecter in place so it is connected to the yellow/black wires? I've jury-rigged a few "non-to-intelligent" fan setups, but I've never had to break the plastic bits to connect something even when doing this.

If it's still not possible, then you can ask them for a 3 to 2 or 3 to 4 pin adaptor, and/or check your local computer store for either kind of cable adapter.

darkorb

07-29-2006, 10:18 PM

theyv checked, none of those

werty316

07-29-2006, 11:44 PM

That connection is rare so don't expect any adapters. You might as well return it since there is no real solution.

darkorb

07-30-2006, 01:23 AM

their gonna charge like a 25% restocking fee. i no it reaslly isnt their fault. but i dont wana lose money

GIBSON

07-30-2006, 01:35 AM

their gonna charge like a 25% restocking fee. i no it reaslly isnt their fault. but i dont wana lose money
I don't want to be repetitive, but If you really don't want to return it, there are two possibilities in my eyes.
1) Get the conector on the wires of the cooler off and solder the wires to the connector pins on your gfxcard
OR
2) Make the connector of your cooler fit by cutting it here and there. Certainly seems do-able to me.

werty316

07-30-2006, 01:40 AM

Soldering the wire might be risky consider the small amount of space. What you could do is sand down/mod the connector on the NV5 so it does fit on the video card connector.

Well since there is no solid solution and you don't want to mod anything or take the chance at braking something you could use it as a paper weight and get some money back.

darkorb

07-30-2006, 03:04 AM

u thihnk i could cut down the 4 pin so it fits? but in the 4 pin, ther are only 2 cables going to it.

could u guys link me to a/any converters? if u want to..

Kougar

07-30-2006, 05:54 AM

The only adapter I see online is something like this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817147013 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817147013)

You can connect a standard molex connector to it and then connect a 3pin and 2pin clip onto it... this would completely bypass the graphics card, but it should work just fine especially if you are not keen on some hard modding. $10 is a bit much IMO, so if you can find something like this locally... ;)