Folding @ Home Question & Answers Discussion

[werty316]

Good idea to have a FAQ about Folding since not alot of users are aware of its function and there have been a few users in the forums that asked about Folding.

[ToXic_WaSTe]

Good idea to have a FAQ about Folding since not alot of users are aware of its function and there have been a few users in the forums that asked about Folding.

Yep and im one of them, but how do you sign on as a team and such. :confused:

And what team number should i use, Does HH have a team?

[werty316]

I think you fill out the information (team number) when you install it or when you first open the app. Its been a while since I ran it so I am not 100% sure.

[ToXic_WaSTe]

I think you fill out the information (team number) when you install it or when you first open the app. Its been a while since I ran it so I am not 100% sure.

okay, found the team number, now its started... but is it suppose to stay at 0 out of 20000000 for 15 min,?

[werty316]

Folding takes a long time so just keep your eye on it and see if it progresses from "0".

[ToXic_WaSTe]

Folding takes a long time so just keep your eye on it and see if it progresses from "0".

still no change? but are we talking 15 or 45 minutes here?

[werty316]

Yeah maybe more depending on by CPU you use. Just let it run for an hour and see if anything changes.

[ToXic_WaSTe]

Yeah maybe more depending on by CPU you use. Just let it run for an hour and see if anything changes.

The hour has gone, and its still saying 0 ????

[Das Capitolin]

The hour has gone, and its still saying 0 ????

Please start new threads instead of walking all over my FAQ.

It could take over 40 hours to complete 100% of one project. The time depends on how fast your CPU is, and how many other applications are running. Remember that the program "folds" when only using idle CPU cycles.

[werty316]

Well this is a FAQ and he asked a question?

[ToXic_WaSTe]

Please start new threads instead of walking all over my FAQ.

It could take over 40 hours to complete 100% of one project. The time depends on how fast your CPU is, and how many other applications are running. Remember that the program "folds" when only using idle CPU cycles.

sry bout that, just gets fustrating still on 0 after an hour 15min... will try to fix it or post in new thread... SRY

[Das Capitolin]

Make sure you close the text file and reopen to see the latest status. You didn't mention any specifics, either. Such as client type, service or not, etc.

Well this is a FAQ and he asked a question?

It was beginning to be a discussion, which is fine, but I though would be better in a new topic so this one could try and stay "clean".

[ToXic_WaSTe]

Make sure you close the text file and reopen to see the latest status. You didn't mention any specifics, either. Such as client type, service or not, etc.



It was beginning to be a discussion, which is fine, but I though would be better in a new topic so this one could try and stay "clean".

Dont know if this a FAQ question but here goes...

Why am i still stuck at 0?

And if someone anyone finds out they can post it if not we keep this clean, But do hope someone knows why i have this problem:???:

[werty316]

What did Das just say? Let it run and don't use your computer while it is running. Check back the next day.

[Das Capitolin]

Dont know if this a FAQ question but here goes...

Why am i still stuck at 0?

And if someone anyone finds out they can post it if not we keep this clean, But do hope someone knows why i have this problem:???:

Don't worry about this thread, it can be cleaned up later.

I suggest starting with some info, like I mentioned.

Client: GUI or console?
CPU: single or dual core?
# or clients running? 1 or 2?
How many other applications are open and running?

[ToXic_WaSTe]

Don't worry about this thread, it can be cleaned up later.

I suggest starting with some info, like I mentioned.

Client: GUI or console?
CPU: single or dual core?
# or clients running? 1 or 2?
How many other applications are open and running?

Client: Console
CPU: single Core
# or clients running? 1
How many other applications are open and running? 1(firefox)

[werty316]

Do this:

"How many other applications are open and running? 0" This way all of the processing power goes towards your Folding effort. In other words, set and forget it.

[Das Capitolin]

Client: Console
CPU: single Core
# or clients running? 1
How many other applications are open and running? 1(firefox)

It's going to take a few hours for each step. Be patient. Also- you don't HAVE to close all other programs, but it helps leave a lot of idle cycles.

[XJnine]

One thing that will slow your folding down a bit is a screensaver. You're much better off going to a blank screen or ideally just turn your monitor off.

[ToXic_WaSTe]

Okay, heres how it went... nothing happened at all, so an hour or so ago i restarted and went into advanced settings, put everything to default more or less, and ran it for an hour.. So now I've Reached 1 step, and it seems to be working....

BTW shut down firefox, maybe that was the reason, but will have to check that later now im off. Thx for your help

[Kougar]

One thing to keep in mind is that not all Work Units are created equal. I have had WUs take not quite 2 hours on my rig to complete a cycle to as little as 4 minutes per cycle, both times only one instance was running and no intensive programs being run.

There are at least 6 different "cores", or program engines used to fold. Each WU will specify which core it is to run with, and if that core is not found the program auto-downloads it into the directory being used. Folding@home should always be run from it's own dedicated folder, and in a place where it won't be moved around.

One more thing, is lets say someone has one WU running that takes 55 minutes to run a single cycle. If it is closed down 50 minutes into that next cycle, 50 minutes of work would just have been lost. But if that person had waited five more minutes, the program would have reached it's next save point and saved the last 55 minutes of work. This is just something to keep in mind. ;)

A good FAQ on setting up the console client that explains a few things is available at: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=39&threadid=1725668&enterthread=y&arctab=y (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=39&threadid=1725668&enterthread=y&arctab=y)

[Das Capitolin]

One thing to keep in mind is that not all Work Units are created equal. I have had WUs take not quite 2 hours on my rig to complete a cycle to as little as 4 minutes per cycle, both times only one instance was running and no intensive programs being run.

I mentioned this in my FAQ. I can add an advanced FAQ section later with more detail.

One more thing, is lets say someone has one WU running that takes 55 minutes to run a single cycle. If it is closed down 50 minutes into that next cycle, 50 minutes of work would just have been lost. But if that person had waited five more minutes, the program would have reached it's next save point and saved the last 55 minutes of work. This is just something to keep in mind.

It saves your work every 3-30 minutes, and I believe the default is 30 minutes. So in this case you would lose 25 minutes of work.

[Kougar]

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It saves your work every 3-30 minutes, and I believe the default is 30 minutes. So in this case you would lose 25 minutes of work.

Hmm, you got me on that one. Although it still depends on the core being used in question ;)

Periodically, the core writes data to your hard disk so that if you stop the client, it can resume processing that WU from some point other than the very beginning. With Tinker, that happens at the end of every frame. With GAH it happens at the end of each sequence.

With Gromacs, these checkpoints can happen almost anywhere and they are not tied to the data recorded in the results. Initially, this was set to every 1% of a WU (like 100 frames in Tinker) and then a timed checkpoint was added every 15 minutes, so that on a slow machine, you never loose more that 15 minutes work.

[Das Capitolin]

Hmm, you got me on that one. Although it still depends on the core being used in question ;)

Kougar my friend, you are holding on by a thread with the Gromacs defense.

I personally think that someone who keeps their computer on for less then an hour at a time should configure FAH to save work every 3 minutes. Otherwise, I think that 15 minutes is fine for the average home user, and 30 minutes for servers and work users.

[tomato]

Thank you for the FAQ Das, when I get some spare time, I will surely download the program and get it up and running :)

[Das Capitolin]

Thank you for the FAQ Das, when I get some spare time, I will surely download the program and get it up and running :)
Good idea to have a FAQ about Folding since not alot of users are aware of its function and there have been a few users in the forums that asked about Folding.

Thank you both. Just the fact that I added three new folders to the team in one day is a thank-you enough!

Hopefully this will serve as a primer for next months contest, pending word from Scott.

[Kougar]

Kougar my friend, you are holding on by a thread with the Gromacs defense.

Hey, I already said you got me on that one... In other words, you point was proven ;)

I think this needs to be noted though, for future folding@home users:

Are there any characters I should avoid in a username?

We strongly recommend to stick to just letters, numbers and underscore. Right now, we reserve the characters # ^ ~ |. # is used for firewall differentiation (see above). We want to save ^ | and ~ for other problems which might come up. Also, don't put spaces in your username; please use some character like "_" instead. Finally, please note that usernames are case sensitive, so "Dave" and "dave" and "dAVE" are all different usernames.

[Das Capitolin]

Hey, I already said you got me on that one... In other words, you point was proven ;)

I think this needs to be noted though, for future folding@home users:

Hey, I didn't even know that! Thank you again Kougar! I will add this right now.

[GIBSON]

Finally started folding today (got home this day :D) (did some folding in the past though). Seems to be working fine, it's at 50% after three hours.

[werty316]

50% after 3 hours, seriously? You must not being using your A64 3500+. It tooks me two days to get to 50%

[Das Capitolin]

50% after 3 hours, seriously? You must not being using your A64 3500+. It tooks me two days to get to 50%

That's a fast turnover, but not totally uncommon. Keep in mind that there are several different project sizes, and occasionally they may be a partial project.

[werty316]

Its take me around 1 hour to get 1% done no matter what project and I checked the timestamps.

[Das Capitolin]

Its take me around 1 hour to get 1% done no matter what project and I checked the timestamps.

Werty, what team have you joined? I ask because I don't see you on the Bjorn3D team.

[GIBSON]

Err, small error on my side, I thought it said 25000 of 50000, however it said 25000 of 500000 :s Now (after 6 hours) I'm actually at 20%

[Das Capitolin]

Err, small error on my side, I thought it said 25000 of 50000, however it said 25000 of 500000 :s Now (after 6 hours) I'm actually at 20%

Gibson, there is an easier way: Refer to the "unitinfo.txt" file for a simplified percentage scale.

[werty316]

You don't see me because I haven't made one WU yet. I am at 68% (13600000 of 20000000). At this rate I don't think I will be Folding at all once I have one WU completed.

[Das Capitolin]

You don't see me because I haven't made one WU yet. I am at 68% (13600000 of 20000000). At this rate I don't think I will be Folding at all once I have one WU completed.

Why the hell not??? It only uses SPARE cycles, so nothing slows down, and you have already set everything up. That's just like starting an oil well, striking oil, and then closing it up. Plus that 20000000 project is a big one worth lots of points.

[werty316]

So all projects aren't 20,000,000? I figured all projects were that amount (20,000,000).

I was wondering why the GUI gave me a project of only 40,000 while the console gave me a 20,000,000 project.

Also would it help if I had the console and GUI version open even if I have a single-core cpu or will having both open slow the calculating process down on both?

[Das Capitolin]

So all projects aren't 20,000,000? I figured all projects were that amount (20,000,000).

I was wondering why the GUI gave me a project of only 40,000 while the console gave me a 20,000,000 project.

Also would it help if I had the console and GUI version open even if I have a single-core cpu or will having both open slow the calculating process down on both?

If you are running a single core CPU, then you should only run one client at a time: either console or GUI. I recommend the console client because it uses a fraction less RAM and CPU to operate.

[Kougar]

Running both at once on a single core system (HyperThreading partly excluded) will only make them both run not quite twice as slow. HT even doesn't help by more than a third of the overall percentage at best. And when you run two (Or more) F@H programs at once you must configure them with differing ID numbers to prevent corruption or conflictions.

[GIBSON]

Gibson, there is an easier way: Refer to the "unitinfo.txt" file for a simplified percentage scale.
Heh, I just found that out myself just before I browsed this thread again :D.
I've got another question though. I've got my parent's rig set up for folding too, however, I put my username on there too. Do I have to give the machine an other ID if I want them both working on my username, or does the app take care of that itself.

[Das Capitolin]

Heh, I just found that out myself just before I browsed this thread again :D.
I've got another question though. I've got my parent's rig set up for folding too, however, I put my username on there too. Do I have to give the machine an other ID if I want them both working on my username, or does the app take care of that itself.

Each machine generates it's own machine ID, but this is not related to your USER NAME or TEAM NUMBER. You should be using the same USER NAME on all of your system, and the same TEAM NUMBER.

[werty316]

Yeah I think you need to use a different ID so not to confuse the first Folding session.

[Das Capitolin]

Yeah I think you need to use a different ID so not to confuse the first Folding session.

What? Don't go and confuse him. There are four things to each project session:

1) The USER NAME you entered (Which should always be the same on every machine).
2) The TEAM NUMBER you entered (Which should be 41608 )
3) The MACHINE ID, which will be 1 or 2. (1 if you have a single core CPU, and 1 & 2 for dual core.)
4) An auto-generated user ID key that you don't even need to worry about and cannot change.

[werty316]

I thought the ID is the number of instances you have running. Since the machine ID goes up to 8 does that mean the app could support an eight-core CPU?

[Das Capitolin]

I thought the ID is the number of instances you have running. Since the machine ID goes up to 8 does that mean the app could support an eight-core CPU?

I adjusted my post above. The MACHINE ID is the client CPU number assignment. Client with MACHINE ID 1 will work on CPU 1, and MACHINE ID 2 would work on the second core/cpu. It could go up to 8 CPU's on one computer system.

[Kougar]

What? Don't go and confuse him. There are four things to each project session:

1) The USER NAME you entered (Which should always be the same on every machine).
2) The TEAM NUMBER you entered (Which should be 41608 )
3) The MACHINE ID, which will be 1 or 2. (1 if you have a single core CPU, and 1 & 2 for dual core.)
4) An auto-generated user ID key that you don't even need to worry about and cannot change.

Exactly!

The "machine ID" is really only a ID per program thread running on the exact same machine. You only need to worry about changing the ID when using the same computer for multiple F@H programs. When using multiple computers each with a single F@H program, it does not matter and you can ignore the machine ID completely.

The machine ID simply labels each F@H process with a different #, so the CPU that is working on two or more folding programs at one will not confuse the programs with each other and corrupt the data on both of them.

[GIBSON]

K, thanx for the explaination guys (except werty who was trying to confuse me :p, heh j/k) I guess I set it up right then. Though I'm going to have to do some work on my pc to let it work for long periods while I'm away I think. I'm going to have to install a chipsetwaterblock I think (and while I'm at it a GPU block too) as the chipset is running very hot +-56°C after a while of F@H. It would certainly expand it's lifetime IMHO.

[werty316]

hehe sorry GIBSON.

On another note heres something that really pissed me off; I just completed a big 20,000,000 project overnight while I as sleeping and I forget to enable the Folding app to allow to access the internet and so what do I see when I woke up but a popup from ZoneAlarm telling if this app is trying to connect to the internet. So I basically just wasted all this time on a 20,000,000 project only to have the information timeout as I do not show up on the bjorn3d 41608 team. @#&*%*!

[Das Capitolin]

hehe sorry GIBSON.

On another note heres something that really pissed me off; I completed a big 20,000,000 project and I forget to enable the Folding app to allow to access teh internet and so what do I see but a popup from ZoneAlarm telling if that this app is trying to connect to the internet. So I basically just waste all this time on a 20,000,000 project only to have the information timeout as I do not show up on the bjorn3d (41608) team.

It's not a wasted project. It will upload once you unblock it and restart the client. F@H gives almost two months for each WU.

[werty316]

I closed the client and opened it and when it loaded and started a new project (4,000,000) it gave me a thx message for help Folding. I guess I have to wait when the stats are updated on the next run which should be in a few minutes.

EDIT: Looks like the 20,000,000 project did go through.

[GIBSON]

I closed the client and opened it and when it loaded and started a new project (4,000,000) it gave me a thx message for help Folding. I guess I have to wait when the stats are updated on the next run which should be in a few minutes.

EDIT: Looks like the 20,000,000 project did go through. I'm on the stanford stats but not the extremeoverclocking stats.

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=41608
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=41608
It would have been pretty gay if the F@H programmers didn't forsee that situation ;)
Argh, I'm still busy with my first WU :s As I already mentioned I'm a bit worried on the chipset temp while folding, so I'm not running it 24/7 right now. I'm going to have to look at my cabling too I guess, one of these days. I didn't spend much time when I assembled the system last year (as I already mentioned I had undergone some serious surgery so I was in a wheelchair at that time) and so I didn't do much about the cabling.

[Das Capitolin]

Argh, I'm still busy with my first WU :s As I already mentioned I'm a bit worried on the chipset temp while folding, so I'm not running it 24/7 right now.

You can always reconfigure the console clients and run CPU at 50%.

[GIBSON]

You can always reconfigure the console clients and run CPU at 50%.
Would that impact the chipset temp a lot? (cpu temp is no problem, it's watercooled and is running at a low 30-ish with these high ambient temps in belgium atm)

[Das Capitolin]

Would that impact the chipset temp a lot? (cpu temp is no problem, it's watercooled and is running at a low 30-ish with these high ambient temps in belgium atm)

It would have an impact on both chipset and CPU, but the chipset should not be critically hot. How high is the temp getting?

[GIBSON]

56°C so that is pretty hot eh! BTW have a look, I'm listed on the team now! :D

[Das Capitolin]

56°C so that is pretty hot eh! BTW have a look, I'm listed on the team now! :D

56C on a chipset? That is pretty hot! Does it have active or passive cooling? Too bad you didn't get a huge project like Werty did for 392 points. Still 153 points isn't bad for the first project. :paw:

[GIBSON]

56C on a chipset? That is pretty hot! Does it have active or passive cooling? Too bad you didn't get a huge project like Werty did for 392 points. Still 153 points isn't bad for the first project. :paw:
Is there any difference in the timeframe you get the project done, e.g. in a week would for instance be 200 points, 2 weeks 175, 3 weeks 150 points, and so on?
Regarding the chipset, indeed it's really hot and it is actively cooled. Mind we're talking about an nFore4 chipset here, and that the small heatsink/fan combo is partially blocked by the gfxcard. I just had a look if putting the card on the lower PCIe slot would help, however the heatsink/fan is there too (guess it's bigger than I thought it was :mrgreen: ) (BTW is it even possible to run the card in the lower slot without using the top PCIe slot, there would be no use in this case to put it in the lower one but it made me think if it even is possible to do so)

[Das Capitolin]

Q: So when will I see some points on the stats page?
A: You get points once you complete a project, and the points vary between projects (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummaryC.html). The stats page (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=41608) refreshes every four hours.

I don't think completing it early matters, but I am uncertain of the answer. T his link will explain more detail. Kougar may know the ultimate answer on this one.

[werty316]

Is there any difference in the timeframe you get the project done, e.g. in a week would for instance be 200 points, 2 weeks 175, 3 weeks 150 points, and so on?
Regarding the chipset, indeed it's really hot and it is actively cooled. Mind we're talking about an nFore4 chipset here, and that the small heatsink/fan combo is partially blocked by the gfxcard. I just had a look if putting the card on the lower PCIe slot would help, however the heatsink/fan is there too (guess it's bigger than I thought it was :mrgreen: ) (BTW is it even possible to run the card in the lower slot without using the top PCIe slot, there would be no use in this case to put it in the lower one but it made me think if it even is possible to do so)

You must using the crappy stock cooling that all NF4 boards come with. I took mine off and used a Zalman NB47J with a fan cooling it. Max load is around 35c. DFI enthusiasts use the Evercool VC-RE on the chipset.

[Kougar]

Well, it does matter for some WUs. Some Work Units have deadlines, and if they are not completed in time then they are simply sent to someone else to get them finished so they can continue, and even if you complete that WU you won't get full points. If you are using a slow machine or don't plan to let F@H run enough to complete a WU within a week or two, then you should configure your client to only download and fold WUs without deadlines.

http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-points.html (http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-points.html) does a good job explaining the points system and how bonus points are earned. To answer the question though, as long as you complete the WU before the deadline then the points you get for it should be the same. Most deadlines seem to be pretty generous, so unless you get an old project that someone didn't complete or something I would think two weeks per WU would be okay. The F@H group does prefer these things to be completed "the sooner the better" though so they have less issues generating new WUs to simulate from the previous test run results.

[liqnit]

thanks for the FAQ page .
it really help to clear up things

[Das Capitolin]

thanks for the FAQ page .
it really help to clear up things

I'm glad I could help you. If there is anything I missed, please let me know and it will get added.

[GIBSON]

You must using the crappy stock cooling that all NF4 boards come with. I took mine off and used a Zalman NB47J with a fan cooling it. Max load is around 35c. DFI enthusiasts use the Evercool VC-RE on the chipset.
I might look into getting one of those, but wouldn't it be better to get a waterblock to add to my loop? (I might add a GPU block too then, however I don't know if my 120mm rad will be able to cope with all that)
BTW my current project is at 92% and should add another 120 points :) (that project page is handy to find out what your project will be worth!)

[Das Capitolin]

I might look into getting one of those, but wouldn't it be better to get a waterblock to add to my loop? (I might add a GPU block too then, however I don't know if my 120mm rad will be able to cope with all that)
BTW my current project is at 92% and should add another 120 points :) (that project page is handy to find out what your project will be worth!)

Gibson, it looks like you are a F@H up and comer as well. You will be in the top 20 in no time at all.

I would add the waterblocks to the chipset and GPU, and increase your radiator.

[werty316]

Yeah add a chipset and GPU to your loop and swtich to a dual 120mm rad.

[Bio-Hazard]

Chip set blocks don't do all that much except for decrease performance of the rest of the loop by adding un-needed restriction to the cooling loop...........;) And good luck finding one that fits on the DFi boards unless you're using super small tubing, and then you'll have to find one special for your board because of the location of the chip......:)
I've seen people run their video card in the lower slot but the jumper needs to be set to SLi mode and then your bandwidth on that slot will be cut to x8 instead of the full x16. In the single video card mode the top x16 slot is x16 and the second slot is set to x2 by default.
The temps you're getting are are on the hot side, but still more that safe. The best solution if you're worried is just to improve the airflow or get that aftermafket copper cooler. I just use the standard factory cooler meyself and temps never go over 40c.

From your owners manual.

• SLI mode
- 2 SLI-ready graphics cards (use identical cards) on the PCI
Express x16 slots.
- The graphics cards are connected via the SLI bridge.
- The bandwidth of each slot is x8; when the graphics cards
are connected via the SLI bridge, it runs at x16 bandwidth.
• Single VGA mode
- 1 PCI Express graphics card on the PCIE1 slot will run at
x16 bandwidth.
- The other PCI Express x16 slot (PCIE4) will run at x2
bandwidth.

[werty316]

Also forgot to note using a water block on a DFI board is hard to impossible since the video card is in the way. Most water cooling users don't use a chipset water block anyhow. The Evercool VC-RE is your best bet.

[GIBSON]

Also forgot to note using a water block on a DFI board is hard to impossible since the video card is in the way. Most water cooling users don't use a chipset water block anyhow. The Evercool VC-RE is your best bet.
Off-topic: Is it just me or are you always repeating the post above yours?
On-topic: Thanx for the info sbrehm! It wouldn't be undoable to add a chipsetblock but you're right that it's a pain in the @$$ to find one that will fit. I don't see why you say extra fine tubing as you have more than adequate space to not make it kink (or atleast I think). It would have to be a block with the barbs facing the sidepanel.
That aside I'm going to follow your advice, I'm going to have a look at getting my cabling done so airflow should improve then. If temps are still in the fifties then (or high 40s) I'll probably get one of those aftermarket coolers.
I think it would have been hard to fit in another rad. I must admit that my Thermaltake is a rather large case, but it's rather limited to add another rad unless you want to screw up the nice sidepanel or top. Only thing I can think of and have others seen do is putting an 120 in the top drive bay. A GPU block wouldn't hurt though I think, a while ago I got some lag/gfx corruption while playing a game and it would help keeping the noise down. (it's really hot atm in belgium, really extraordinary, the hottest summer ever recorded!)

[werty316]

What :lol: HAHAHA I am just re-enforcing your best choice and forgot you have a DFI board and I didn't read all of sbrehm's post.

[Bio-Hazard]

On another forum there were some guys talking about the temps in Europe and the tems they are getting in their systems. Some guys in the UK are hitting over 70C on the chipset on DFI LP NF4 boards and they say that they are still running stable. Good air flow should help you out a bunch though.

[Das Capitolin]

It looks like we have a hand full of new folders on the team, which is great news!

SwedBear, Zachig, and Werty are all posting decent points each day. We have grown from 19 to 29 in just one month, I look forward to seeing the team fold next month!

[GIBSON]

It looks like we have a hand full of new folders on the team, which is great news!

SwedBear, Zachig, and Werty are all posting decent points each day. We have grown from 19 to 29 in just one month, I look forward to seeing the team fold next month!
Heh, I'm doing my best too! :lol:

[tomato]

I am going to try my hand at folding as well, hopefully this weekend ;)

[Das Capitolin]

Heh, I'm doing my best too! :lol:

Sorry Gibson, I was only naming the top three new folders. You are right on their heels though. Keep at it!

[werty316]

I'm trying as much as I can ;)

[Das Capitolin]

I'm trying as much as I can ;)

I may as well join the copy-cat trend you are setting lately.

I am accomplishing as much as I can. :twisted:

[dukeman]

great contest, i am going to try and figure out how to fold now.

[werty316]

Just take a look the the first page here
http://www.bjorn3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9230
and if you have quesitons just make a thread.

[Bio-Hazard]

I just started today, going to see if I can catch-up to my old Bio-Hazard score I have at Legit Reviews...............;)

Donator Bio-Hazard (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=Bio-Hazard&teamnum=38296)
Score 25069 (certificate (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Bio-Hazard&pts=25069))
WU356 (certificate (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Bio-Hazard&pts=356&t=wus&bg=3))

[zachig]

WOW!!! That's a really impressive score you had there, Bio...:wink:

Well done!!! I guess you can come close to this score, as if I'm not wrong, you have 6 systems to run F@H on...:roll: :mrgreen:

GOOD LUCK...:wink:

[Bio-Hazard]

I was thinking of only putting 2 up for this site, I do have another I'm comitted to at the moment as well.

[Reyawn]

hmm, apparently something happened to F@H on my server, as it hasn't posted anything since May...haha...

going to fix it up :)

[Absolut352]

Just started. I was using BOINC but i kinda like the idea of dual 7900s. Installed f@h on some of my servers at work and a few idle work stations in addition to my main comp and lappy. On to the 50 posts.:???:

[werty316]

I bet those 7800GT SLi are outdated :lol:

[Absolut352]

I bet those 7800GT SLi are outdated :lol:


Well no but it would save a lil $ towards the conroe rig i will be building soon.:mrgreen:

[tomato]

Ok, I'm set to Fold... here I go! :)

[ToXic_WaSTe]

So how many computers do you guys have running?

I have 2 right now and probably wont get more this week cause im on vacation (again :P)

I'm not folding to win but for the cause so i think this is a great idea:) keep on folding!

[interpim]

Just signed up... hope it helps :)

[ToXic_WaSTe]

Just signed up... hope it helps :)

Nice to have you here Interpim, and good luck :)

[Absolut352]

So how many computers do you guys have running?

I have 2 right now and probably wont get more this week cause im on vacation (again :P)

I'm not folding to win but for the cause so i think this is a great idea:) keep on folding!

I have it on 5 machines so far. Ive been running seti@home since like 99 so im no stranger to folding. Waiting for that f@h boinc client to come out.

[Enigmachine]

Okay... I installed F@h... And the first thing that happens is... The biggest, most amazing hours of lightning storms I have ever seen!

At least my machine seems to have survived ok, but my cable provider is limping. And I'm glad there's power to the air conditioning again :)

I hope this bad start isn't a sign of things to come! :roll:

[Bio-Hazard]

Been there done that with the storm thing a few times this summer already.........;) Good thing is that we've got a generator hard wired to the house for when the power goes out...............:) That and satellite internet, so I'm good to go.
Still folding with 2 systems, I may fire up one of my old one from my old folding farm just to lend a hand................:)

[Kougar]

Welcome to all the new Bjorn3d folders! Doesn't matter if you can only fold on a single machine or on a room full, every single PC helps! And it only takes just one and 50 posts to qaulify you for the August Bjorn3d contest... ;)

It never rains here anyway anymore, so I don't have to worry about storms. *knocks on some wood for good measure*.

[dukeman]

anyone have a quick guide on how to get 2 instances folding at the same time on my opty 165. got one running with no problems.

[Scott Sherman]

I think for the second one you have to do what I did on my FX-62. Download just the client and start it up. It will pull the team and name info from the other running one.

[dukeman]

holy freaking cow that is quite the rig you have there!!!!

i will try that. i read somewhere that you have to change the name of the exe program for the 2nd one but i am not sure.

[Das Capitolin]

anyone have a quick guide on how to get 2 instances folding at the same time on my opty 165. got one running with no problems.

holy freaking cow that is quite the rig you have there!!!!

i will try that. i read somewhere that you have to change the name of the exe program for the 2nd one but i am not sure.

Q: How do I set up two clients to run at the same time?
A: You must use the console version of the client for both instances. Create a directory (folder) for each client named CPU1 and CPU2 and run each from their own directory.

[werty316]

So how many computers do you guys have running?

I have 2 right now and probably wont get more this week cause im on vacation (again :P)

I'm not folding to win but for the cause so i think this is a great idea:) keep on folding!

Check out the Standford stats if you must know.
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=41608

As Das mentioned make sure you put the client(File) in two seperate directorys for example: "C:/Fold1" and "C:/Fold2"

[zachig]

I'm currently using the Windows GUI version of F@H on my dual-core CPU at work, and I've just downloaded and ran another Console version and running both the windows and DOS console at the same time...

CPU usage is currently at 100%, while it was at 50% when only the windows version ran...so I guess I'm actually running now two instances in parallel, though I'm not sure if it's the right way of doing it...:roll: :???:

I don't want to run 2 Console versions at the moment, as I'm afraid it'll ruin the current process of the Working Units I'm currently folding...:confused:

[werty316]

It shouldn't ruin the current WU you are working on as it save the work done in intervals. I find that the console version is much better as who needs to look at those nutrient atoms anyhow.

Check the task manager to be sure both cpu cores are being used and not just one calculating on both the GUI and console.

[zachig]

It shouldn't ruin the current WU you are working on as it save the work done in intervals. I find that the console version is much better as who needs to look at those nutrient atoms anyhow.

Check the task manager to be sure both cpu cores are being used and not just one calculating on both the GUI and console.

Looking at "task manager" it seems that both cores are busy, so is it OK? Or is it preffered to un-install the "windows" version and re-install two "clean" CONSOLE version in different folders? :confused:

[werty316]

Well I have the windows GUI version installed but I use the console version. all the information is just stored in the windows GUI directory so all that is in the console's directory is the EXE. Just copy the console's EXE file to a seperate directoy.

[tomato]

"Q: I messed up my configuration settings. How do I change my configuration?
A: Go to the "Start" menu, and open "Run". Browse to the FAH client you wish to configure, and then once it is listed in the "Open" box, add a " -config" after it and press enter."

So... is anyone running F@H on a Mac? If so, how do I change my config settings? Directly right in the Terminal Window? Do you type is exactly as follows:

-config OR config? I set up F@H initially, but fudged up the initial settings... :( I checked out numerous topics on the Wiki FAQ, but came up empty...

[zachig]

I've finally decided to un-install the "Windows" version and install two "Console" version to run in parallel...:wink:

I've already did it...so currently I'm running 2 instances and both cores are working at 100%...so...thanks for your advice and...HAPPY FOLDING!!! :mrgreen:

[werty316]

I think you can just use the "-config" option when configuring it on a mac.

[Kougar]

Sorry tomato, I looked around but I've had as much luck trying to figure out how to change the file attributes on a mac as I have for my one linux F@H client that I am trying to get working right! Had tried to install XP just for the ease of use and stability, but so far only win95 and an older copy of Knoppix have been able to boot without any problems on that box.

I am getting the feeling I'm just not using the right search keyword though... hopefully someone familiar with a mac can help ya.

[Das Capitolin]

"Q: I messed up my configuration settings. How do I change my configuration?
A: Go to the "Start" menu, and open "Run". Browse to the FAH client you wish to configure, and then once it is listed in the "Open" box, add a " -config" after it and press enter."

So... is anyone running F@H on a Mac? If so, how do I change my config settings? Directly right in the Terminal Window? Do you type is exactly as follows:

-config OR config? I set up F@H initially, but fudged up the initial settings... :( I checked out numerous topics on the Wiki FAQ, but came up empty...

I can get you this far, but you will have to sort through all this on your own... http://forum.folding-community.org/viewforum.php?f=8

[Enigmachine]

Eh, now my ISP went dead for the last 12 hours... 'Tis really not boding good for this experiment! :???:

But now I'm back, I'm halfway through my first wu and I can finally install more instances. I guess I'll know if I've set it up right in half a day or so. :)

[darkorb]

i have a single core 3500+, could i also have 1 windows and 1 doss going? since my comp is on when im sleeping.

[werty316]

i have a single core 3500+, could i also have 1 windows and 1 doss going? since my comp is on when im sleeping.

Since you have a single core running more than one instance will slow things down so either run one console or GUI version. I recommend you run the console version.

[tomato]

Thanks Kougar and Das for the effort. I did manage to change my user name and team settings through the GUI client... which also changed those settings in my Console client! I'm not asking quesitons, but it worked. But I would like to try and figure out how to change the rest of the initial settings...

This all began with my original Console client. I quit out of it before completing the initial configuration settings, and it must have set itself to defaults because of my force quit. It then ran the next time I opened it with default "anonymous" settings.... at least I can use my Mac now with the proper username/team ;)

I will try and mess with the other settings at a later date... unless you think that the other settings at default are ok?

[Das Capitolin]

For console:

Go to the "Start" menu, and open "Run". Browse to the FAH client you wish to configure, and then once it is listed in the "Open" box, add a " -config" after it and press enter.

[werty316]

Try to get a Mac terminal/console version is a big pain. One reason why macs suck.

[darkorb]

i dont no if my F@h is workin right, its really chooppy and its taking forever. its only 5/500 after like an hour or so

[werty316]

i dont no if my F@h is workin right, its really chooppy and its taking forever. its only 5/500 after like an hour or so

Are you running the console or GUI version? Those atoms in the GUI are just for show and use up wasted resources.

[darkorb]

its the console i think, its def not command prompt

[werty316]

This is the console verison. You can run it through the command prompt.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6812/clipboard01xe1.jpg

Does it look like this?

[darkorb]

nno, its just another *window* that opens. it shows the dna thingy spin and all. it looks kinda choppy. the dna doesnt spin smoothly.

[werty316]

Thats the GUI version. The DNA isn't suppose to spin smoothly.

[GIBSON]

Thats the GUI version. The DNA isn't suppose to spin smoothly.
It kind of is supposed to but no normal computer can handle that. *I think* As the molecule you are seeing is the result of the calculations right? So if it were to spin smoothly your wu bould be done like really fast :)
One thing though, i've seen quite a few people asking about setting up two instances of FAH, aren't you supposed to change the ID of the second client?
e.g. first client ID: CPU0 second client: CPU1. If I remember good things are likely to go wrong if you don't.
BTW: Toxic, I'm so feeling with you now you're going to HAVE TO go on a trip AGAIN! It's a cruel world isn't it! :mrgreen:

[Enigmachine]

Gosh, I hope it's not really DNA being folded on darkorb's computer, that would bring any computer to its knees! :) DNA is gigantic!

There's something I don't find entirely clear, you can set give a "Computer ID" in the advanced settings to your installation, but that's only useful if you have more than one thread of F@h running on the SAME machine right? If you have two cores you'll give each install a different ID, say 1 and 2, but if you install on a different machine, you can reuse ID 1, instead of moving to 3, right?

The phrasing is confusing me. :) And it's so humid here, my cat is catching fishes without getting up. :paw:

[GIBSON]

Gosh, I hope it's not really DNA being folded on darkorb's computer, that would bring any computer to its knees! :) DNA is gigantic!

There's something I don't find entirely clear, you can set give a "Computer ID" in the advanced settings to your installation, but that's only useful if you have more than one thread of F@h running on the SAME machine right? If you have two cores you'll give each install a different ID, say 1 and 2, but if you install on a different machine, you can reuse ID 1, instead of moving to 3, right?

The phrasing is confusing me. :) And it's so humid here, my cat is catching fishes without getting up. :paw:
You are correct. You only need to change the ID's if you're running multiple instances on the same machine. On another machine you can simply use the same IDs again, even if you use the same account :)
You're right about the DNA too. I guess some people start thinking about DNA right away if they see a somewhat larger molecule :grin:

[werty316]

Keep in mind you should only use more than one instance if you have dualcore CPU. Running two instances on a singlecore CPU just slows the calculating down.

Also if you do use two instances make sure they are in different directorys.

[darkorb]

ok guys thanks, my comp was on last night and it only got to about 250/500. is that normal? or is my comp slow somehow

[werty316]

Yeah that is normal. Folding takes a long time. I have had some big WUs take upto 3 days.

[darkorb]

o ok thanks

[tomato]

For console:

Go to the "Start" menu, and open "Run". Browse to the FAH client you wish to configure, and then once it is listed in the "Open" box, add a " -config" after it and press enter.

Thanks for the effort Das, but the Mac OSX doesn't have a "Start" menu and whatnot, hence my difficulties ;) I'm trying to figure out how to get to that point on the Mac :?

[Das Capitolin]

Thanks for the effort Das, but the Mac OSX doesn't have a "Start" menu and whatnot, hence my difficulties ;) I'm trying to figure out how to get to that point on the Mac :?

My link was for the Mac users forum for the F@H project. I hope that helped.

[tomato]

I will look at it when I have a moment, thanks Das ;) :)

[borschtBomber[SS]]

You are correct. You only need to change the ID's if you're running multiple instances on the same machine. On another machine you can simply use the same IDs again, even if you use the same account :)
You're right about the DNA too. I guess some people start thinking about DNA right away if they see a somewhat larger molecule :grin:

Oh good, that was something I was wondering about myself. I set up my mother in laws P4 1.5 to fold and was worrying if not changing that ID was gonna screw up my numbers. :cool: